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Why I'm starting to sour on Narduzzi

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Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.
 
Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.

Just curious what were your comments when Todd Graham kept the petal to the metal against Iowa and ended up blowing a 21 point lead?

Not necessarily disagreeing with you. I believe for any program not named Alabama or Ohio State, you need to rely on outscoring the opposition in a shoot out. But there is a happy medium out there.

Also Can't blame Sanders on Narduzzi, that was done before he arrived.
 
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Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.


His first full recruiting class was probably Pitts best in 20 years. Take a deep breath. Jeter is a loss no way to spin it, but I've been through too many of these to flip out in September I'll wait till January. Lots of things can happen.

Matt Canada wasn't fired from NC state because his offenses were bad he got fired because he was going to take the Pitt job regardless.

Pitt, football wise, is in the best shape it's been in a long time. With or without jeter.
 
We're not Bama. Our problems weren't gonna be resolved in 1 recruiting class. And sour all you want. He didn't inherit a stockpile of talent. I know we're all tired of hearing it (believe me I am too) but the fact if the matter is he needs a few years before he can be judged.

As far as Conklin - who knows. This is Narduzzi's defense in that he leaves his corners on an island. It's not Conklin's fault they have corners that can't do that at the moment.
 
Week 4 season 2 "beginning to sour"....completely stupid ....adding a bunch of incorrect colorful adjectives to describe your views doesn't build your case...its just more bitchy yinzing as usual...

Fan bases like this ....week 4 , season 2....speaks entirety for itself

It's actually unbelievable


Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.
 
Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.

I'm not souring on Narduzzi, nor do I have any clue if he's a good HC, bad HC or somewhere in the middle. The only thing I am certain is that the coaching musical chairs must stop. Since Walt was fired, Pitt's program has been in the wilderness going nowhere. We must have stability, that's first, so Narduzzi stays.
Second point is that we simply don't have the talent to do much better than 7-5. 6-6, 5-7 for the foreseeable future. PA talent is thin. Add to that, we don't have a good record of keeping what few of the great ones there are, at Pitt. We need to get the kids from talent rich Florida, Texas and California before we can sniff at "the next level." How we do that is Narduzzi's challenge. Sooner rather than later, I expect we'll be back to 30,000 crowds for home games.
 
I'm not souring on Narduzzi, nor do I have any clue if he's a good HC, bad HC or somewhere in the middle. The only thing I am certain is that the coaching musical chairs must stop. Since Walt was fired, Pitt's program has been in the wilderness going nowhere. We must have stability, that's first, so Narduzzi stays.
Second point is that we simply don't have the talent to do much better than 7-5. 6-6, 5-7 for the foreseeable future. PA talent is thin. Add to that, we don't have a good record of keeping what few of the great ones there are, at Pitt. We need to get the kids from talent rich Florida, Texas and California before we can sniff at "the next level." How we do that is Narduzzi's challenge. Sooner rather than later, I expect we'll be back to 30,000 crowds for home games.


How did Wannstedt do keeping them home ? Not talking about his coaching , but his recruiting, can't really remember
 
He's 16 games into his head coaching career. He's won 10 of those. Jesus...

-As I pointed out, he's brought in more talent in the last 1 and half years than the last 2 coaches brought in the last 4 years combined, most of it out of state. It sucks 2 of the biggest impact recruits are injured with Hendrix and Hamlin.

-And people want to blame him and Matt Canada. Does anyone want to revert back to last year when Pitts offense couldnt score 26 points per game with Big spread pass happy Jim Chaney with Tyler Boyd? Our offense stunk last year with what we had because we have an average QB with below average WR's and freshmen wr's.. And now we are Boydless and Ford is out for the year. Blame the last 4 years recruiting prior Narduzzi. Not a head Coach that already has 10 wins and will far surpass the average 6 win per year average.
 
His first full recruiting class was probably Pitts best in 20 years. Take a deep breath. Jeter is a loss no way to spin it, but I've been through too many of these to flip out in September I'll wait till January. Lots of things can happen.

Matt Canada wasn't fired from NC state because his offenses were bad he got fired because he was going to take the Pitt job regardless.

Pitt, football wise, is in the best shape it's been in a long time. With or without jeter.

I think it might be a bit of a stretch to say that because Dave brought in some pretty highly rated classes.

However, the OP is a typical bridge jumper and being ridiculous.
 
The guy has done a great job with the talent or lack there of that was here when he arrived. Not to mention changing the culture of a program that folded like a cheap suit every time it was on the cusp of turning the corner to respectability for the last 20 yrs. Pre- Narduzzi, this last game would have been one where you went into a national gamewith big aspirations and good feelings only to see a team that looked like it had never played the game show up and embarrass themselves. This team competed until the end and was in a position to win were it not for an overmatched CB falling down. If you can't see the progress, you aren't looking very hard
 
There are 4 to 5 great teams every year

then there are 40-45 teams that can (and do) beat each other every Saturday.

Two of those teams....Pitt and UNC square off saturday.

A Pitt win......and this team has a chance (not a great chance but one nonetheless)....to end up 9-3 in year two....with a possible bowl win giving Narduzzi 10 wins in year two.

Its a reach....but it can happen

my point......Pitt is headed to a better place...just not as fast as we want. That is society today. Pitt fans should not throw in the towel.
 
Week 4 season 2 "beginning to sour"....completely stupid ....adding a bunch of incorrect colorful adjectives to describe your views doesn't build your case...its just more bitchy yinzing as usual...

Fan bases like this ....week 4 , season 2....speaks entirety for itself

It's actually unbelievable

He's just a troll. His posting history supports that. Nothing to see here.
 
if narduzzi cant turn it around here, can anyone?

My assumption is that the administration is finally committed. If my assumption is correct, I have wondered the same thing - and long before today. Maybe I lean glass half empty, maybe it's the last 30 years. Maybe a combo of the 2. But for whatever reason - to me - this has felt like it's now or never. And by now I don't mean this year or even next. But if Narduzzi flames out for any reason I'm less than optimistic.
 
First legitimate coach we have had since Gottfried. He will get the job done. This is a total rebuild situation thanks to the dummies in the Pitt admin. It will take time. We have to support this guy. This recruiting class will end up fine. Everyone is on edge because we lost Saturday and because we lost a local recruit.
 
His first full recruiting class was probably Pitts best in 20 years. Take a deep breath. Jeter is a loss no way to spin it, but I've been through too many of these to flip out in September I'll wait till January. Lots of things can happen.

Matt Canada wasn't fired from NC state because his offenses were bad he got fired because he was going to take the Pitt job regardless.

Pitt, football wise, is in the best shape it's been in a long time. With or without jeter.
Based on what?
 
Based on what?

-Does winning games count? Going back to 1984, Pitt has had a total of 9 seasons combined winning at least 8 games in a single year. That's 8 out of 32. Dave Wannstedt had the best 3 year run, in a watered down Big East league. So yes, winning 8 games this year 2 years in a row in a much better ACC league is an upward trajectory. Getting back to back Top 25 classes would also be a large success. Both should happen.
 
Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.
Well, I see it another way, Coaches with Head Coaching experience & time to rebuild and establish Programs, Let us Compare the Programs in Each Conference Division and Regionally:

Notre Dame-27 Years
Georgia Tech-20 Years
Ohio State-15 Years
Miami-15 Years
Duke-15 Years
Michigan-12 Years
Virginia-11 Years
MSU-12 Years
UNC-9 Years
Penn State-6 Years
West Virginia-6 Years
Indiana-6 Years
Virginia Tech-5 Years
Syracuse-5 Years
Temple-4 Years
Maryland-2 Years*
Pitt-2nd Year Head Coach
Rutgers-1st Year
* Interim Head Coach Florida 2014
 
Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.
Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.
I'm fairly certain if you can't see Narduzzi as a great hire, you need to have your head checked. Coach has been here for a year so any reasonable Pitt Fan is going to watch the rest of the season, then recruiting, then maybe start to form a judgement.

He is a homerun hire for us and all the former players feel he is going to get it done.
 
OP said he was quitting this site in late August, his $100 were spent better somewhere else, b/c Chris removed the scrimmage post someone posted. I thought we were blessed when I read that, but I guess I was wrong.
 
I'm fairly certain if you can't see Narduzzi as a great hire, you need to have your head checked. Coach has been here for a year so any reasonable Pitt Fan is going to watch the rest of the season, then recruiting, then maybe start to form a judgement.

He is a homerun hire for us and all the former players feel he is going to get it done.
 
I totally agree..."homerun fire." The OP should not only have his head checked, he should
admit he's a troll.
 
Hear me out: This isn't a case of missing out on one kid. This is now a pattern of significant misses of kids who Pitt should be in it with to the end. Miles Sanders, Khaleke Hudson, David Adams, CJ Thorpe, Phil Jurkovec. 5 guys who are instant upgrades to what Pitt has now or will have. All misses, and in some cases...we weren't close.

When Narduzzi was hired, he claimed that he was searching for assistants that would "kill it" on the recruiting trail. For the most part, the 2016 class appears to be a good class although most of them are on the bench. 3 games in, the class has produced more retired players (1 maybe 2) than instant impact true FR. The Maurice Ffrench's and Ruben Flowers of the class are behind bums like Jester Weah who is still learning how to catch. In 2017, the prized assistants have yet to kill anything on the recruiting trail except the buzz of the 2016 class.

Speaking of those assistants, how many people honestly think Josh Conklin is an improvement over Matt House? We picked Matt Canada off the scrap heap of recently fired OC's at middling programs. It's tough to judge Conklin because I don't know how much involvement Narduzzi has. But, Canada has turned this offense into a 1 dimensional offense that runs the jet sweep and power running well. The passing game has regressed to the point where we don't or can't throw the ball on 3rd and 4 in critical situations. There are tons of people to blame for the atrocious passing game...Canada sticks out.

It all brings me back to Narduzzi who hired these clowns. Narduzzi's insistence that 1970's run game and defense will win championships is troubling, especially in today's college football landscape. I'd love a coach who with a 3+ point lead keeps his foot on the throat of the opponent with offensive pressure. Too often in the last 2 years we go far too conservative leaning on a running game that is ineffective and a defense that sucks. There are massive issues in pass defense and while we have some talented FR that sit...our terrible SR and JR CB's get to play.

It all leads me to begin to sour on Narduzzi. We need playmakers and tons more speed on offense and impact players on defense and I see neither outside of Ford and maybe Sibley in this class.

And FYI....I would have kept Henry Miller at QB. He fits the mold of kids having massive success at schools Pitt should be on par with. Lengthy kids who can run and sling it a little...and at 6'3 or 6'4?!? Cmon.

If you think a different coach gets the recruits that you listed, you need your head examined. People like you have an extraordinarily unrealistic view of where Pitt is as a program and what can reasonably be expected of any coach or administration. We are not Notre Dame. From a resources and fan support perspective, we are not even Penn State. The comparisons to a Michigan State or Virginia Tech (in the Beamer years) present a more appropriate model for success.

I'm not saying that we shouldn't aim for the highest levels, but to blame Narduzzi for not immediately competing at the highest level is total nonsense.
 
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Seems a bit premature given the following facts:

PITT was 6-7 with a final strength of schedule of 56 in 2014. In Narduzzi's first year at the helm, PITT recorded a record of 8-5 with a final strength of schedule of 34. This is even with Conner out for 96.75% of the season.

On the recruiting trail, Narduzzi finished the 2016 class with a team ranking of 31, as opposed to 70 the year before.

One could argue that Chryst was terrible at both coaching and recruiting, however, these are the data points we have to work with right now. Sure everyone would love to land all of the talent in WPA, but the fact of the matter is this program was completely hamstrung by the defection, firings, etc. by the previous regime.

There has been some stability brought to the program in just over 21 months (official announcement on 12/26/14), but this will be a process for a few years.
 
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