Does anyone know why he doesn't have at least 2 Stars? From the videos I've seen of him I'd give him a 3 Stars rating!
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Visiting Ohio St. and LSU soon. Offered by FSU. There are your 3 stars.
So Will Wade offered our 2 big guy targets, Sy and Diallo. Well, that's great.
Is that actually easier than typing " two or three stars"? Or is he just showing off?
Diallo no offer from LSU pending visit. Sy looks like a one and done Juco looking at his highlights. I know. They're highlights after all. But just look at his Daytona film.
Sy looks really good and his numbers are great. Not sure why he isnt being recruited by bigger schools like a Texas, Louisville, Indiana, Arizona, etc.
Sy and Diallo would be improvements but they aren't that good. I would hope to do better. I would like stronger players that can and want to bang.
Sy's pretty darn good, I don't think there are many players his caliber out there.. Diallo looks like a very very worthwhile project.
Im not sure what you'd expect to find out there that would be better than Sy.
He's a top 10 rated Juco player, 4 star when coming out of high school.
Im not sure what you'd expect to find out there that would be better than Sy.
He's a top 10 rated Juco player, 4 star when coming out of high school.
Maybe the light went on for Sy, but he couldn't really keep a starting slot for Va Tech. Of course, he's a year older.
It's always important to consider the level of competition when predicting how successful juco's or grad transfers will be when moving on to a higher level. The Florida juco conference Rosevelt Nix came from sent 3 or 4 players to the ACC. ( to FSU, Clemson and Pitt) None made even a ripple. Pitt got the best rebounder in the Ivy League, Maia and the defensive POY in the A-10 Nelson-Oboda, as grad transfers. Again, barely a ripple.
I can't remember the big kid who got (trucking ) Pat Gallagher so mad he wanted to fire Dixon when the guy went elsewhere, but he was a bust, as was the guy Paul Evans pushed Chris Gatling out to try to sign. (Marvin Branch? Maybe)
Some juco's work out. Many don't.
Sy seems like a headcase. He enrolled at Va Tech, played as a freshman, decided to transfer to a juco, didn't play at the juco, transferred back to Va Tech, redshirted and then transferred again, with the second transfer allegedly being mutual at best.
For a guy who was only a middling 3 star recruit, there are probably programs that just don't think he's worth the hassle. With that said, he certainly has the tools to be a good player. I don't know about the tool box.
Sy is the #1 rated JUCO big guy. I have a hard time believing the #1 big guy isnt a legit ACC Center. He's averaging 17 and 9 in a good league
Agree with you. The ones who work out are often highly recruited players out of HS--well known quantities-- who ended up at JUCO for reasons not related to their basketball abilities-grades, test scores, injuries, assorted felonies and misdemeanors. Or maybe they grow 6 inches after they graduate H.S. Guys like Larry Johnson, Dennis Rodman, Mitch Richmond, and JR Rider come to mind.
Very seldom do you get that diamond in the rough or super sleeper that everybody overlooked in H.S. out of JUCO.
Totally agree with you that JUCO basketball is an absolute joke and stats tell you very little about a player. I have a very good friend who played at that level and I was at many of his games.
Harve -- the guy was Mike Thorne. He averaged 10+ points and 7+ rebounds at Charlotte. He chose Illinois over us and was actually doing quite well averaging something like 12-13 PPG until he hurt his knee after about 7 games. He was out for a while, tried to come back, but then reinjured it.
He then got a 6th year, and played for a while but was never right, and wasn't able to finish the season.
So he might have been a pretty good one.
But to your point, the Grad transfer thing is pretty rarely what people want it to be. Sure there was DeAndre Kane and Damon Lee at Louisville. But many, many more are Maia.
Ryan Luther was rated the 7th best Grad Transfer over the summer last year. He did fine at Arizona, but he was really just a piece of the puzzle there at best, and certainly wasn't a difference maker.
Same is true with JUCO's most often. We pulled an amazing rabbit out of a hat with Ontario Lett. And Jaime Peterson was really good too. Add Jermaine Dixon, Antonie Jones and even Sidy N'Dir (as a grad transfer) to the solid list as well. But after those five names, I could literally rattle off a couple dozen names other JUCO's and Grad Transfers who weren't impactful at Pitt.
People may remember Walter Berry. But for every one of him, there are 50 Derrick Worrells, Tico Coopers, Kris Lanes, Sterling Smiths, and on and on. (Tico was very highly thought of coming here even!)
I think Marvin Branch was considered the #1 JUCO big man when he ended up at Kansas over Pitt because he couldn't get accepted here because of this shaky transcript. There, he averaged something like 8 PPG until he didn't make the grades at midseason.
I wish I felt JUCO's and Grad Transfers were the answer. But I don't think they are. They aren't crap shoots. They are long shots.
I remember the hype when Tico committed. He was OK, but certainly not a game changer.
If I remember correctly, the Thorne kid had some irregular heart beat issue and played with a defibrillator insert too.
If a juco was a sure thing not sure Pitt would be in the running for his services . Who wouldn’t want a player with 2 yrs of development in already plus they’ve had 2 more yrs to physcially mature .
It's important to know what Wade will be offering them...and what country he will be coaching in next year...
https://syndication.bleacherreport....ruiting-offer-with-christian-dawkins.amp.html
https://syndication.bleacherreport....ruiting-offer-with-christian-dawkins.amp.html
The question I would ask is whether a Maia or Nelson-Adoda would be upgrades over Brown and Kene. I honestly think they would be and most would agree that we would have been better off with Luther.
So, while we may not get a star, I think we may be able to upgrade our roster with someone who can actually catch a pass, make a layup, grab a rebound, and not get pushed around all game.
At this early point in the rebuild a grad transfer could be a help. I'm sure Capel is looking and high school kids down the line. For instance I think we have good shot at Hughly in 2020 and at least a fair shot at Dickinson. It will be interesting to see how this 2019 class comes together.
Maia is an upgrade for sure because he's tough and gritty. Can rebound and defend. ANO reminds me of Brown. I think ANO is better but not a huge upgrade.
He's probably making a decision within 3 weeks so we won't be waiting too long to find out where he's heading.
Good read on the kid.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.el...e-addition-to-ohio-states-2019-recruiting?amp
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.el...e-addition-to-ohio-states-2019-recruiting?amp
Yes, good article. However, the pessimist in me says that whoever gets the last official has the best shot. I would love us to land him but his praise for tOSU makes me believe our chances have diminished.
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He’s s planet and subject to a completely different rating system.
