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Wilps/Brown and Young Guns Wrestling

Banned Panther

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Feb 17, 2005
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This is in response to comments in a few threads below:

1. Wilps should have won the match with Brown - when he got a takedown to go ahead by one point with 20 seconds left, that match was his. He didn't win it because he was called for stalling with 3 seconds left in the match, and after the re-start at 3 seconds, he touched his hands while riding Brown when Brown's knee was on the mat.

The stalling call was his second, which is an automatic point. The first stalling call against Wilps was a judgement call. While neutral, Wilps repeatedly backed up and twice went out of bounds instead of circling back to the middle of the mat. Different referees enforce this kind of stalling differently, and even sometimes the enforcement is uneven during the same match. However frustrating this may be, it is absolutely a subjective call as to whether a wrestler is avoiding action and so the referee was within his discretion to give Wilps a stall warning.

The second stall call was required by rule. Wilps was trying to ride out Brown for the last 20 seconds of the match but allowed Brown to get to his feet. Instead of returning Brown to the mat (probably very difficult to do), Wilps dropped to Brown's leg, hoping to work up to control Brown's waist. In this position, the rules require the referee to count to 5, and if by then the wrestler in control (Wilps) has not move up the leg to the waist of the other wrestler, there is a mandatory stall call. It was clear from the replay that Wilps did not improve his position on Brown's leg until late in the 5 count, and he never controlled Brown's waist. Under the rules, this point had to be awarded to Brown.

As unfortunate for Wilps as that was, the match was tied and Wilps would have every chance to win in OT if he could just ride out Brown for 3 seconds. He should have been able to do this, and what transpired was hard to believe. But the replay showed that there was 1 second on the clock when Wilps allowed his hands to touch while Brown's knee was on the mat. This had to result in a technical point awarded to Brown. The referee has no choice; the award is mandatory. There really should be no argument about it.

Frustrating? Absolutely. Sanderson exercising demonic power over the officials? No.


2. Young Guns wrestling club, run by Jody Strittmatter with help from his brother John, is an absolutely top notch club. There are many excellent wrestlers in the room from all over Western PA and the coaching is excellent. Both Jody and John are stand-up guys. They have lots of integrity and are very positive with the kids.

My son has wrestled with YG for over five years and I can say from that experience that there is no agenda regarding which colleges kids visit and where they ultimately choose to wrestle. When my son was being recruited, Jody and John were helpful and supportive, and I can't thank them enough. But absolutely no effort was made to steer anyone to any coach or program. If you hear anything to the contrary, you can be assured that it is simply rubbish.
 
I certainly am glad for you that you have such amazing eyesight and hearing.

The two expert former national championship wrestlers on the broadcast looked at the video of the last 3 seconds repeatedly and could not determine if it occurred before or after the time ran out. But you clearly were able, via some superhuman eyesight, to conclude that it occurred with one second left.

You also clearly heard the five count by the referee. I watched the replay repeatedly and couldn't hear a count. I'm not saying it didn't happen, I'm just saying I didn't hear it. I did here it clearly in two subsequent final matches when the same issue arose.

I also heard Sanderson start yelling "He 's stalling" 40 seconds into the match" and continuing to yell it until it was called. I also saw Brown take nothing but half shots for 7 minutes. I don't consider that being active. His main tactic, since he has longer arms, was to out his hand on Tyler's face and push him backward. Tyler was not as aggressive and active as he usually is, but that whole weight class was made up of guys who didn't shoot. How many times did Brown take a real shot during his semi with Evans? The answer would be none. How many real shots did Kokesh take against Tyler before the last 30 seconds when he was behind? The answer is zero. Ditto for the Oklahoma State wrestler Tyler wrestled in the semis. His one and only shot came in the last 20 seconds. Yet in not one of those matches was there a stalling point awarded. Only against Tyler. Only to benefit PSU. Coincidence? I think not.

Do you think the way Sanderson held the flag over his head and waved it to the crowd for a good ten seconds is the proper way to make a challenge? Can you name any other coach who did anything other than to take the flag and place it in its holder?

Sanderson is a prima Donna and a bully. He also was a great wrestler and is an incredibly successful coach. But I think people will tire of his antics, his step on your best friend if it means you can win mentality, and his boorish personality over time.
 
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