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It's not all their fault, but this team misses more point blank shots than a good junior high team. And there is no one to blame for that other than the people missing those shots. Pitt had 20 offensive rebounds to Syracuse's 13, and yet Syracuse outscored Pitt 19-17 in second chance points, because when Syracuse got an offensive rebound there was a pretty good chance they were going to score and when Pitt got an offensive rebound there was a pretty good chance that Pitt was going to miss.
The coaches also aren't the ones who shot 50% from the foul line today and who are shooting 63% on the season. That puts Pitt in the top 20 in the NCAA in free throw percentage. No, not top 20 best. Top 20 worst.
I think the other thing from today's game, and I think it happened in the game at Syracuse as well, is that Syracuse was getting something of the old John Thompson Georgetown treatment from the officials. The refs know that Syracuse only plays six, so the refs are hesitant to call things on Syracuse. There is no way that the team that spent the whole game pounding the ball inside should only end up with half the foul shots of the team that spent most of the game playing on the perimeter. But just like with those Georgetown teams, the refs at least sub-consciously know that if they call a lot of fouls on Syracuse they are going to run out of players really quickly.
Every time, and I do mean that literally, that Hyman drove the ball into the lane with her right hand she pushed off with her left hand. The Pitt bench was all over the refs about it, and rightly so. And yet she never got called for it one time. And generally instead of her getting called for pushing off, somehow the Pitt defender would get called for a foul for not moving out of the way of the forearm that she was pushing off with.
Every time, and I do mean that literally, that Hyman drove the ball into the lane with her right hand she pushed off with her left hand. The Pitt bench was all over the refs about it, and rightly so. And yet she never got called for it one time. And generally instead of her getting called for pushing off, somehow the Pitt defender would get called for a foul for not moving out of the way of the forearm that she was pushing off with.
You apparently were at
the game. Hyman's push
off's weren't as obvious on
tv, but I did notice it. If
she continually got away
with it, that's good on her
part...bad reffing or not.
What I did see, was she
drove almost every time she
touched the ball. She got
the first step on her man
repeatedly and drew a foul.
We never adjusted, or took
the drive away and forced
her to shoot from the outside.
As for the game at Syracuse,
they hit threes all game long,
40% , 13-32. also 100% FT's.
Today they couldn't hit a
three, 2-20, but were 89%
Ft's, 25-28. They missed wide
open threes, but adjusted
and Hyman took over driving
over and over. Good coaching
on their part.
More importantly, I don't see
our girls developing over
time. Harris isn't even the
player she was in her first
year. Look, we don't agree,
and as I told you before,
that's ok.
I see it as coaching.
the game. Hyman's push
off's weren't as obvious on
tv, but I did notice it. If
she continually got away
with it, that's good on her
part...bad reffing or not.
What I did see, was she
drove almost every time she
touched the ball. She got
the first step on her man
repeatedly and drew a foul.
We never adjusted, or took
the drive away and forced
her to shoot from the outside.
As for the game at Syracuse,
they hit threes all game long,
40% , 13-32. also 100% FT's.
Today they couldn't hit a
three, 2-20, but were 89%
Ft's, 25-28. They missed wide
open threes, but adjusted
and Hyman took over driving
over and over. Good coaching
on their part.
More importantly, I don't see
our girls developing over
time. Harris isn't even the
player she was in her first
year. Look, we don't agree,
and as I told you before,
that's ok.
I see it as coaching.
I don't absolve the coaching. There are certainly problems there and I have pointed some of them out before. But at some point in time the players have to play the game. And the Pitt players continually fail to make plays that even a mediocre college basketball player should make.
If you want a good example of coaching failing the team today, I give you Liatu King. It was pretty obvious every time she was on the court that Syracuse had no one who could guard her, whether she was at the four or the small amount of time that she played at the five. 8 points on 4-5 from the field and 5 rebounds in only 11 minutes. Get her 20 - 25 minutes and she could have ended up with a line of something like 18 and 10. She had the same advantages that Amber Brown (14 and 10 in 26 minutes) except that she's bigger, so her advantage both inside on offense and on the boards would have been even greater.
I said before that King, Strother and Johnson ought to be playing at least 15 - 20 minutes every game. Today they were at 11, 11 and 9. That's not nearly enough, although today at least Strother didn't really do anything in her 11 minutes so maybe today her minutes were understandable. But this team's substitution patterns don't make any sense to me. At all.
Now all of that, I totally
agree! I've been
posting the same about
King all year. I'm sure you
saw her on the high post.
She plays that very well.
She catches, looks into the
lane goes to the hoop,
or dishes down low. Then
she gets pulled...WHY??
I do like Brown, she's a real
warrior, but King, like you
said is a biggeer and more
effective version.
How about this, end of the
Qtr,, 20 seconds left, and
we have Emy Hafford holding
for the last shot...Hafford??
Why?? she is the last one I
want the ball in her hands at
that situation. Strother?...you'll
have to tell me what you see in
her other than the shot. You're
there in person...any floor game?
Johnson, I can't tell from TV. You
have a better view in person.
And yes, as you said the players
have to make plays that even
mediocre players do. The way I
see that is coaches have to
help in that. I'm not at practice
obviously, so I only can go with
what I see in games.
I see those two as something of opposites. Strother doesn't do a whole lot other than shooting threes. But this team desperately needs a three point shooter, and I think she may have the capability to be a good three point shooter. Johnson, on the other hand, I think she actually may be one of the few "basketball players", as opposed to an athlete playing basketball, that this team has. She isn't great at any one thing, especially now, but she can shoot the ball a little and pass the ball better than most on this team and rebound the ball a little. I think she "sees" the game better than just about all of her teammates, maybe even all of them.
But for me, both of those two are more a play for the future. I think they need to play because this team isn't very good right now (obviously) and I think those two COULD be useful parts of a good team in the future. King, on the other hand, I think would actually be helping this team right now if she was playing more. I just don't get the way they have used her, or really not used her, this season.
Coach said King’s minutes would be somewhat limited today because of her knee.
I was pretty disgusted by Pitt’s final play. After a time-out and with 10 seconds on the clock we unbelievably end up passing the ball to AB about 15 feet from the hoop. She can’t find anyone to pass to and ends up taking a desperate jumper that was nowhere close. AB is probably the worst jump shooter on the team.
I was expecting Everett to take a deep three with enough time for Rita or AB to get a put back. But instead it was utter chaos.
I actually thought Pitt did pretty well around the hoop today - maybe four misses. It was the stupid turnovers that drove me crazy - like Day dribbling the ball out of bounds twice. And the passes that clanged of hands and went out of bounds.
Tough loss to accept.
Go Pitt.
I was pretty disgusted by Pitt’s final play. After a time-out and with 10 seconds on the clock we unbelievably end up passing the ball to AB about 15 feet from the hoop. She can’t find anyone to pass to and ends up taking a desperate jumper that was nowhere close. AB is probably the worst jump shooter on the team.
I was expecting Everett to take a deep three with enough time for Rita or AB to get a put back. But instead it was utter chaos.
I actually thought Pitt did pretty well around the hoop today - maybe four misses. It was the stupid turnovers that drove me crazy - like Day dribbling the ball out of bounds twice. And the passes that clanged of hands and went out of bounds.
Tough loss to accept.
Go Pitt.
If you watch our out of
bounds play, Brown comes
off a pick and goes to the
corner as the first option.
Why Brown?? I notice we
have trouble inbounding
the ball. IMO Brown should
be the player passing it in
from out of bounds.
As for hands. They should be
doing the two ball drill among
others every day, over and
over in practice.
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Lost again tonight to BC, 69-57. Igbokwe made a basket at the 4:59 mark of the 2nd quarter to give Pitt a 25-16 lead. And she made a foul shot with 24 seconds left in the quarter to cut the BC lead to 27-26. At the 4:12 mark of the 3rd quarter BC scored to extend their lead to 44-29. Over an 11 minute 35 second stretch of the game BC outscored Pitt 28-4.
Pitt did get it down to three late in the 3rd quarter and down to four with 8:53 left in the game, but BC went on a 9-2 run and it was never close again.
Jayla Everett did not play for Pitt. I didn't watch the game (I was watching the Penguins) so I don't know if it was injury related or something else.
Pitt did get it down to three late in the 3rd quarter and down to four with 8:53 left in the game, but BC went on a 9-2 run and it was never close again.
Jayla Everett did not play for Pitt. I didn't watch the game (I was watching the Penguins) so I don't know if it was injury related or something else.
Let another one slip away.Mysteriosly no Everett again.I think that makes about three or four times this year?
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