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WOW!!!! Henderson declares for draft

Is he in line to graduate soon? More than likely has to do with a family situation that we are not aware of.

He could also be frustrated with the (lack of) development he's gained as a receiver in the program? He was a Chryst recruit, correct? Maybe he's frustrated with the staff? All speculation on my part.

More than likely has to do with a family situation that we are not aware of.

Huh?

Quadree, we are in a dire situation that for some "more than likely" reason needs addressed right now, so now is the time to forgo your education and take a long shot at the NFL instead of getting that degree and being in a better position to make an NFL squad next year with a degree as a backup.
 
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He could possibly carve out a career as a 3rd-down RB (i.e. passing down back) and return specialist - a Ty Mongtomery in Gb and McKissic in SEA type player. He could also possibly develop into a slot WR, but he needs work. I think an NFL offense can better support finding a role for him than ours could, meaning he will need the help from better QB, better scheme, and better weapons around him to attract attention. I could seem him getting drafted in 6th-7th round.
 
He has absolutely nothing to gain by coming back. NFL scouts know who he is, and what he's capable of. Another year, even a highly productive one like last year, isn't going to help.

At best, he is a below average WR. At worst, he's a bad WR. You don't think he can come back and work on actually becoming a good WR? Or perhaps he just knows he can never be a good WR so he's going to bank on being a 100% returner.
 
I think he could've helped himself by coming back and becoming a better WR. The word is that he was injured for most of the season and it showed in his play. Very odd that he chose to jump with diminished play. I hope it works out for him. He was one of the all-time exciting players to watch.
 
At best, he is a below average WR. At worst, he's a bad WR. You don't think he can come back and work on actually becoming a good WR? Or perhaps he just knows he can never be a good WR so he's going to bank on being a 100% returner.

Yeah, I don't get the thought that he had nothing to gain from coming back.
 
good luck to all 3, if all 3 declare. im salty as a fan but cant blame them. Good luck, make millions and donate some of your new found wealth back to the athletic dept, specifically to the football program..
 
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He said he wants to get his family out of the hood, and help them out. Those were his words. Not a mystery.
That's the type of decision-making that creates the hood in the first place. He turned his back on an education to take a long-shot of being a final round draft choice and long-shot of making a roster and playing long enough or well enough to make big money? After taxes, union dues/pension, agents and such, even a high 6-figure salary for a year or two as a marginal player won't last you very long let alone an extended family. Too bad.
 
Doubt he will be drafted, but will likely stick somewhere as a UFA, maybe practice squad guy.

Not sure how much he could improve his stock, but he's giving up a free degree and a chance to get better.

He was one of the good guys. I wish him well.
 
I suspect he will be drafted in the mid to late late rounds, depending on his combine performance, as a return specialist. Whether he can find his way into an offensive role remains to be seen. I think if he goes to the right team, with the right offense, they will find a way to use his talents. New England or the Rams come to mind.

Watson and our staff deserve some scrutiny for the way Henderson was used, or not used, this past season. I realize we had QB and overall offense issues all year, but the dropoff in his production from last year to this is staggering, and it wasn't because he lost ability. Canada recognized him as a weapon and made him a focal point of the O. It seemed Watson tried to cram a square peg into a round hole with Q. I'll never understand why we didn't make a concerted effort every game to get him the ball in the space between the LBs and safeties. Quick, easy throw for the QB, and there isn't a college LB on the planet that could stay with Q. Plus, once the D adjusts to overplay him, it frees up Weah and the other WRs downfield.
I'd put his chances of making a roster at less than 5%. He has 0 skills as a WR and in the NFL there are very, very few return specialists. As the KO is de-emphasized and punts are less and less likely to be returned, this ability is in even less demand.

Good luck to him and, if he has his degree, I can at least understand him trying for it now, rather than risking injury for $0 in college, but it won't end with him in the NFL either way. Hard to give up on a dream, but he'd probably be better off getting half of an MBA or other masters paid for by Pitt. I'd bet he ends up spending more money chasing the NFL than he ever makes.
 
Wow bizarre. I see him as a great Canadian football league player ?
I thought the same that with the larger field Henderson could be dynamite in the CFL. Enjoyed watching him play at pitt, especially the 2016 game against psu. I hope he got his degree . . .
 
Doubt he will be drafted, but will likely stick somewhere as a UFA, maybe practice squad guy.

Not sure how much he could improve his stock, but he's giving up a free degree and a chance to get better.

He was one of the good guys. I wish him well.
Return guys don't get practice squad spots. If he can't make a roster, he is a street FA and not a PS option. Chances are better he doesn't even make it to preseason than he gets 1 year of creditable NFL service.
 
I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying he is giving up a free degree. Would he never be allowed back on campus for the rest of his life? Would he not have the money to pay for his final year or two of classes? If no, would student loans be completely verboten to him?

Get a grip, folks. He can always come back and finish his degree, paying for a year or two of schooling is not insurmountable.
 
You do have to wonder about the advice this young man is getting. When some of the biggest homers on this board are stating he is not a good enough WR that is speaking volumes.

I said it in the beginning of the year and I will state it again. QH is a great athlete and a bad football player. So when he has the ball in his hands out in the open (returns/ jet Sweeps) he can make things happen because he is relying on natural athletic ability. When it comes to the small details, instincts, other little things to get open (football ability) he is not capable.
 
I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying he is giving up a free degree. Would he never be allowed back on campus for the rest of his life? Would he not have the money to pay for his final year or two of classes? If no, would student loans be completely verboten to him?

Get a grip, folks. He can always come back and finish his degree, paying for a year or two of schooling is not insurmountable.

Or he could become the second best player that Phoenix University has ever produced behind Larry Fitzgerald.
 
It sucks that the NFL and even to a degree the college game are taking away the exciting players like Q by eliminating KOR. At the NFL-level KR's are usually back-up RB's. Back-up WR's are too valuable to be KR's or ST players. 1st year players almost all make $480K next year not including signing bonuses and $550K in 2019. After that, the new collective bargaining agreement might see salaries drop unless something drastically changes in the NFL's image. Practice squad guys get around $7K/week I think. I think you have to play in games in 4 different seasons to earn a pension. Most guys who don't make it to pension status have a pretty rough time of it. People don't realize that these players lose a lot of their salaries to taxes and such. Clearing $200K/year net isn't chicken feed but you need to be pretty disciplined and smart with it or you end up back in the hood pretty quickly.

I'm also fairly certain that Pitt would work with him to finish his degree if things don't work out. Wanny and Jamie both reached out to former players even ones the preceded their coaching tenures.
 
More than likely has to do with a family situation that we are not aware of.

Huh?

Quadree, we are in a dire situation that for some "more than likely" reason needs addressed right now, so now is the time to forgo your education and take a long shot at the NFL instead of getting that degree and being in a better position to make an NFL squad next year with a degree as a backup.

That's why I asked if he was earning his degree soon? Read the post before you jump down people's throats.
 
I don’t think it’s a bad decision at all. He’s not ever going to develop into a good college WR, let alone one capable of making an NFL roster.

His only chance to play professional football is as a returner only, and those guys are all UFA. Why stick around returning kicks in college when you can take your shot to make money now and not worry about injuries in his senior season?

He has a lot to lose and very little to gain returning for a senior season.
disagree with improved QB play you saw him get more catches the last 2 games. He didn't need to be a 1k WR to improve his draft position he just had to show he could grab 4 or 5 balls a game and make some NFL team believe they could make a decent 4th wr out of him. Had he done that he would have been drafted in the lower rounds my guess is he is a UFA, but he will get a shot. Its a surprising decision but maybe there were family issues or grade issues. Maybe he simply hated the coaches and wanted out? who knows but on face value it looks like a really bad decision
 
What is he thinking? He has 1 career rec TD in 3 years... and none this year. Actually he has more return tds than scrimmage tds.

I can't think this is a good decision for him. But he never showed much as a WR. It was almost playing 10 v 11 with him on the field because everyone knew he was no threat in the passing game. Either jet sweep or ignore.

And he has ball security issues... I hope he's just testing the waters.
 
What is he thinking? He has 1 career rec TD in 3 years... and none this year. Actually he has more return tds than scrimmage tds.

I can't think this is a good decision for him. But he never showed much as a WR. It was almost playing 10 v 11 with him on the field because everyone knew he was no threat in the passing game. Either jet sweep or ignore.

And he has ball security issues... I hope he's just testing the waters.
He is gone.
 
He has shown people that he has electric ability in the open field. If someone is keen enough to find a way to use him he has a chance, but that chance wouldn't get much better next year. I'm not saying that he couldn't improve his technique and film from another year playing WR with a better QB. But his size would've always been a huge question mark for NFL teams. Another year isn't going to grow him into 6'2".
 
I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying he is giving up a free degree. Would he never be allowed back on campus for the rest of his life? Would he not have the money to pay for his final year or two of classes? If no, would student loans be completely verboten to him?

Get a grip, folks. He can always come back and finish his degree, paying for a year or two of schooling is not insurmountable.
Heck many guys are close to graduating by now. Since the NCAA started to allow them in scholarship the summer before they enroll and over summers it not unheard of for an athlete to graduate in 3 years.
6 summer prior
12 fall freshman year
15 spring freshman year
12 summer
12 fall sophomore year
15 spring sophomore year
12 summer
12 fall junior year.

With that schedule which is typical he could have 96 credits completed. That puts him only 24 credits short. If he to 15 each fall that 15 credits short. So it not insurmountable obstacle. Many schools now offer former players free tuition to finish their degree.
 
I'm not sure why everyone keeps saying he is giving up a free degree. Would he never be allowed back on campus for the rest of his life? Would he not have the money to pay for his final year or two of classes? If no, would student loans be completely verboten to him?

Get a grip, folks. He can always come back and finish his degree, paying for a year or two of schooling is not insurmountable.
Ummm...well, let's for one second assume he is a good student and he just needs another year (basically on track a semester early) to graduate. He goes and tries this NFL thing for 2 years. He has little chance to make any money in the NFL, beyond camp checks. In order to even try to make the NFL he will spend thousands of dollars to train, eat, and temporarily live wherever he is training. I'd bet he spends tens of thousands of dollars more than he makes the next couple of years chasing the NFL. If he settles for CFL, he probably barely makes ends meet.

So, in 2 years (if he gives up in 2 years) he will be in debt (likely high interest loan and credit card debt) from his couple of years chasing the NFL or even playing in the CFL. Then he will have to go back to school and have no money to live on and not have the resources Pitt provides student athletes. Going back as a 25 year old without the resources he is used to and in huge debt, the odds are he probably never graduates or does so now with a huge amount of debt he wouldn't otherwise have and a few years later in his career.

Good luck to him, but hopefully he is at least smart enough to have a basic degree. However, with his reasoning of "get his family out of the ghetto" it is likely that isn't the case. He has a much better chance of doing that by getting his degree, a graduate degree, and getting a good job. Someone has likely given him very bad advice because they want a piece of the miniscule chance he makes $2M over the next 5 years and don't understand he instead likely costs himself $100k+.
 
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What Jprip said above. Use the $50k a year perk you're being given to get a good degree you can live off of. Use that extra year to become a better player and increase your chances at the next level.

I'm a big Q fan, but at best he's a marginal NFL player. He's not in the same position as Whitehead or O'Neill.
 
I wish him nothing but the best, like the rest of you.

This is not surprising to me. I expected this announcement after reading his Dad's twitter message (someone linked it on this site) in the middle of the season.
 
Ummm...well, let's for one second assume he is a good student and he just needs another year (basically on track a semester early) to graduate. He goes and tries this NFL thing for 2 years. He has little chance to make any money in the NFL, beyond camp checks. In order to even try to make the NFL he will spend thousands of dollars to train, eat, and temporarily live wherever he is training. I'd bet he spends tens of thousands of dollars more than he makes the next couple of years chasing the NFL. If he settles for CFL, he probably barely makes ends meet.

So, in 2 years (if he gives up in 2 years) he will be in debt (likely high interest loan and credit card debt) from his couple of years chasing the NFL or even playing in the CFL. Then he will have to go back to school and have no money to live on and not have the resources Pitt provides student athletes. Going back as a 25 year old without the resources he is used to and in huge debt, the odds are he probably never graduates or does so now with a huge amount of debt he wouldn't otherwise have and a few years later in his career.

Good luck to him, but hopefully he is at least smart enough to have a basic degree. However, with his reasoning of "get his family out of the ghetto" it is likely that isn't the case. He has a much better chance of doing that by getting his degree, a graduate degree, and getting a good job. Someone has likely given him very bad advice because they want a piece of the miniscule chance he makes $2M over the next 5 years and don't understand he instead likely costs himself $100k+.

Agencies cover the cost of training; Henderson is not going to go into debt just for making a run at the NFL, even if he only sticks around for a cup of coffee.
 
It is Interesting that in his announcement he said after talking with his parents when most say talking over it with their parents and coaches. I hope it not a case where he had no choice but go. Unfortunately sometimes family issues force players to leave early. Family needs money, baby coming ect. Sometimes it the players just put themselves in a whole academically that they have no choice.

I think Whitehead will be the next to declare.


I posted a couple weeks ago that Whitehead is as good as gone. He and his family are saying it's because of the losing.....yeah one losing season, come on. Whitehead and Henderson are room mates. To me I think these guys were never with the program and more selfish type players. Narduzzi isn't concerned about either declaring at this point.
 
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Agencies cover the cost of training; Henderson is not going to go into debt just for making a run at the NFL, even if he only sticks around for a cup of coffee.
Agencies cover some cost of training for guys they expect to get a return on. They generally do not do that for likely UDFAs and those guys are responsible for those costs or enter into high interest loans against their future earnings. In fact, the NFLPA even tried to include that as a point in their recent CBA negotiations because of how bad it had gotten. For a guy like Q, he would be lucky if an agent floated him a week's worth of just training, without living, food, etc. Anything else would be on him. Many players go into very, very bad debt to train. Costs are $15-30k for a month of specialized training and living, before even considering costs if the guy has a family or your everyday other expenses or vices. So, even if he just does that for a month before the combine/workouts he adds $15K of debt just trying to get drafted, even if he doesn't do that for the next two years to increase his chances. And, of course, he won't have another job for the next 9+ months while he tries to get into the league. So, consider the training costs of $15K for that month and (easily) another $3K in general living expenses for the other 8 months, he is in the hole almost $40k before the NFL season with a best case of getting paid about $6k in checks before he would make the regular season roster and get paid.

So, his net cost (with only that month of specialized training to improve his chances) is likely $33K+, if you assume he stays in camp until the final cuts. If he doesn't make the NFL for 2 years trying that (without anymore pay for training, which is unlikely) he is easily out $70K+. Maybe he makes the CFL and makes $55k in that time.
 
Yea, he was sensational on special teams. Not so great as a WR. That being said, Devin Hester carved out a career as a return specialist.
He’s a well below average receiver actually; a decent punt returner but showed very little in kickoffs this year.

Hope he has Plan B because his phone could be silent all weekend.
 
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