Baylor Lawsuit Alleges 52 Rapes By 31 Players, & Now Kansas Basketball Dorms Investigations, LINKS

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Title IX Professional & Experts are in demand everywhere. Just shocking allegations details that are no longer going to be accepted. Now it is moving to higher level as well. The Kansas Alleged Rape of a Minor are also Title IX Jurisdiction. So, even if one did not participate in any Criminal Sexual Participation, just knowing about it, and not reporting it is a Title IX Violation.

Pitt Posters & Alumni and other CFB Posters that post here that love CFB, just start to teach your children early on, the need to understand Title IX Requirements and Clery Act Reporting of Crimes, Arrests, and being Liable if knew it or saw it, and did not Report it. You can be investigated too and on why you did not comply!

I normally do not Post these types of Subjects & Headlines but Title IX makes them part of CFB Athletic Integrity Programs and these types of allegations, investigations, and Lawsuits can wipe out a Football Program Faster than NCAA Violations that take years to investigate.

More importantly, they can wipe out Great Coaching and change the Lives of all Sons & Daughters and even Students at all Schools. Baylor is a Texan Christian Institution and the day Universities have Lawyers on retainer ready to help any Players that got arrested, has expanded to Students now too, just knowing and not telling about it as a cover up.

This is why I posted the Links to Think for Posters as Parents on the Lair and Elsewhere. It important all Football Fans know now. Some Posters on other Boards make fun of it and defend their Universities saying it a "Media Narrative" when it now a Violation of Title IX Athletic & Academic Integrity Compliance Laws and has been since 1990s. It also a Major Distraction for any Coach to deal with Players as well.

Article, Excerpts & Link:
A Baylor University graduate who says she was raped by football players in 2013 sued the university Friday. Her lawsuit includes an allegation that 31 Baylor football players committed at least 52 acts of rape, including five gang rapes, between 2011 and 2014 — an estimate that far exceeds the number previously provided by school officials. Those figures could not be independently verified Friday, and Baylor officials declined to comment on their accuracy........The woman, a 2014 graduate of Baylor, is now suing the university for Title IX violations and negligence...........This contrasts with figures Baylor officials have provided based on an investigation by Pennsylvania-based law firm Pepper Hamilton, which looked into how Baylor handled sexual assault on campus. Regents told The Wall Street Journal in October that they were aware of 17 women who reported sexual or domestic assaults involving 19 players, including four alleged gang rapes, since 2011.............Art Briles, the former head football coach who was fired in May in response to the scandal, had no knowledge of the 52 sexual assaults cited in the lawsuit, or of any payoff to a victim to keep quiet, his lawyer Ernest Cannon said. "Lawyers can say whatever they want to in pleadings," Cannon said. "I haven't seen any facts." He added that the quote in the lawsuit attributed to his client's son, Kendal Briles, did not "sound like the Kendal that I know." Florida Atlantic University, which recently hired Kendal Briles to be its offensive coordinator, did not respond for a request for comment.
Baylor did not investigate — as required by Title IX, the federal law that instructs universities to proactively protect students from sexual violence and hostility — for more than two years, according to the lawsuit and a report by ESPN. Meanwhile, Chatman transferred to Sam Houston State, but Armstead remained on campus. The lawsuit states that Doe "walked onto campus in daily fear of running into her rapist and in fact did just that on repeat occasions."
Go To Link Read What Will Continue To Be A Problem In CFB & Athletic Departments!
LINK:
http://www.dallasnews.com/news/bayl...lture-cites-52-rapes-football-players-4-years

Second Title IX Kansas Article:
Police are investigating alleged rape of 16-year-old at University of Kansas dorm that houses the men's basketball team:
LAWRENCE, Kan. (AP) — Campus police are investigating the alleged rape of a 16-year-old girl at a University of Kansas dorm housing the men's basketball team, authorities said Wednesday. No charges have been filed and police have not publicly identified any suspects. Five members of the nation's No. 2-ranked team are listed as witnesses on the police report. A KU athletics administrator and two 19-year-old women not listed as witnesses were also questioned, the report shows. The alleged assault and other related crimes occurred sometime between 10 p.m. on Dec. 17 and 5 a.m. on Dec. 18 at McCarthy Hall, which houses team members and other students, police said. The Jayhawks played a game against Davidson in nearby Kansas City the night of Dec. 17. The incident was first reported by the Lawrence Journal-World. Jim Marchiony, associate athletic director for external relations, declined comment, citing the ongoing investigation. The girl, who reported no physical injury, is not a university student and was visiting residents in the building, campus police said in a brief news release. "There is no on-going risk to campus," police said. In addition to the rape allegation, the police report describes other possible related offenses such as contributing to a child's misconduct, furnishing alcohol to a minor and possession of drug paraphernalia. A second and apparently related police report at the same location and on the same day and time involved a runaway. Police said in their release that the athletics department is cooperating and has assisted investigators........
LINK:
http://www.businessinsider.com/ap-police-investigating-alleged-rape-of-teen-at-kansas-dorm-2017-1

 

[psengr82]

Captain, the Cleary Act is a total joke. Reporting of crimes? The Cleary Act requires you to report a crime, as if it's a crime, on any report of a potential crime. That doesn't make sense and therefore the data can not be used. If the reporting criteria doesn't make sense then the reporting will not be consistent and therefore no relationships between the data can be drawn.

I'm sure you know this...I'm sure you've read the Cleary Act??? You write about it often so you should know???

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

="psengr82, post: 1786250, member: 7257"]Captain, the Cleary Act is a total joke. Reporting of crimes? The Cleary Act requires you to report a crime, as if it's a crime, on any report of a potential crime.
I don't pass the Laws and many want Title IX gone but it is growing and Compliance is Haven for Job Creation. I won't and can't argue the merits and agree with you some aspects look to be seen as Violations of Constitutional Rights, but it is the Athletic Integrity Compliance Standard required for every Educational Institution, and when Criminal Allegations happen on Campus or with Athletes Off Campus, University's can no longer overlook them and say that is a Private Matter. It is not a passing fancy but increasing Societal Change and not going away. Even the NCAA has trouble with dealing with it and they have open Lobbying Offices in DC the last year to deal with Laws that can affect College Sports status and other matters.

That doesn't make sense and therefore the data can not be used. If the reporting criteria doesn't make sense then the reporting will not be consistent and therefore no relationships between the data can be drawn.
You make good points, but Universities are now spending millions in Compliance of Title IX Crime Reporting with Clery Act. All Employees and students are now subject to Hours of Orientation before Hired and not allow to attend classes until they comply on the orientation, and must be updated every year. Penn State will now check anyone's Background before you send money and if someone is on a Sexual Offenders Lists, the money is not accepted or returned.

I'm sure you know this...I'm sure you've read the Cleary Act??? You write about it often so you should know???
I do and attend many Seminars on it to advise, and it has cause Universities to walk Constitutional, Privacy, and Athletic Integrity Lines over Allegations of Criminal Rape & other Headlines followed later by Lawsuits. All Sports are always associated with Headlines and we post on them every day. It is tough to be fair and take it all in, but it is a growing aspects of Today's Societal Sports Reality!

This is why I am waiting on the Criminal Cases and Civil Lawsuits, and holding back judgments that are taking place by OAG, Defense and Civil Lawsuit Lawyers. It is the only fair and wise thing to do.

Great Coaches that just want to coach can't ignore this aspect of College Sports anymore and if they do, they are gone, and it is impacting more every day I am told by some Sports Lawyers.

 

[marinomd]

Just put Briles wife & son on the Baylor board of directors, I'm sure the "truth" will come out that way....

 

[psengr82]

Captain, for those that haven't read the Cleary Act let me give an example.

Suppose you are walking down a dorm hallway and hear a girl screaming out from a room. You open the door and see intercourse taking place and immediately call the police. The police arrive and find that the couple were having a vigorous sexual encounter. The University MUST report this as a crime according to the Cleary Act. Who would actually report this as a crime?

This Act is so screwed up it can't be saved...they have to start over.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Captain, for those that haven't read the Cleary Act let me give an example.

Suppose you are walking down a dorm hallway and hear a girl screaming out from a room. You open the door and see intercourse taking place and immediately call the police. The police arrive and find that the couple were having a vigorous sexual encounter. The University MUST report this as a crime according to the Cleary Act. Who would actually report this as a crime?

This Act is so screwed up it can't be saved...they have to start over.

You just described legal defamation, constitutional, privacy, official investigation, and university policies on Title IX & Clery Act aspects of the Kansas Allegation Investigations and gray areas still developing.

Crimes reported to police typically are posted publicly, to the department’s online daily crime log, within a few days. Yet, the alleged rapes are sometimes not posted until sometime over a week after it was reported. Then when asked why did you not report and record it under Clery Act....Law Enforcement sometimes do not want to tell posting an incident could interfere with an ongoing investigation, they wait to do so until that’s no longer a concern.

As well as this New Case One too on now a Recruit or Players is seeking not be labelled as Rapist especially since he was not charged or convicted? How does one get back his reputation when that happens and follows him on Internet forever?
Attorney for former KU football recruit demands end to online posts labeling him ‘rapist’
Transfer hopeful disclosed involvement in Title IX investigation to KU months ago, attorney says
In a strongly worded letter, an attorney for a momentary University of Kansas football recruit accused a woman of defaming and harassing the man online — even going so far as to blame her posts for KU rescinding its verbal commitment to the player......
When Daisy Tackett began posting about former Boise State University football team member Darreon Jackson, she created a “social media fervor” based upon fiction, Jackson’s attorney Susan Lynn Mimura wrote Friday in a cease and desist letter obtained by the Journal-World. Tackett is one of two former KU rowers suing the university under Title IX. In the letter, addressed to Tackett’s attorney, Mimura demanded Tackett remove posts that defame Jackson and obstruct his ability to get an education at KU, plus offer him a public apology.
LINK:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/jan/27/attorney-ku-football-recruit-demands-end-online-po/

 

[psengr82]

You just described legal defamation, constitutional, privacy, official investigation, and university policies on Title IX & Clery Act aspects of the Kansas Allegation Investigations and gray areas still developing.

Crimes reported to police typically are posted publicly, to the department’s online daily crime log, within a few days. Yet, the alleged rapes are sometimes not posted until sometime over a week after it was reported. Then when asked why did you not report and record it under Clery Act....Law Enforcement sometimes do not want to tell posting an incident could interfere with an ongoing investigation, they wait to do so until that’s no longer a concern.

As well as this New Case One too on now a Recruit or Players is seeking not be labelled as Rapist especially since he was not charged or convicted? How does one get back his reputation when that happens and follows him on Internet forever?
Attorney for former KU football recruit demands end to online posts labeling him ‘rapist’
Transfer hopeful disclosed involvement in Title IX investigation to KU months ago, attorney says
In a strongly worded letter, an attorney for a momentary University of Kansas football recruit accused a woman of defaming and harassing the man online — even going so far as to blame her posts for KU rescinding its verbal commitment to the player......
When Daisy Tackett began posting about former Boise State University football team member Darreon Jackson, she created a “social media fervor” based upon fiction, Jackson’s attorney Susan Lynn Mimura wrote Friday in a cease and desist letter obtained by the Journal-World. Tackett is one of two former KU rowers suing the university under Title IX. In the letter, addressed to Tackett’s attorney, Mimura demanded Tackett remove posts that defame Jackson and obstruct his ability to get an education at KU, plus offer him a public apology.
LINK:
http://www2.ljworld.com/news/2017/jan/27/attorney-ku-football-recruit-demands-end-online-po/

Stop mixing Title IX and Cleary as they have two different purposes.

Do you agree that Cleary is a mess? It seems like you and I agree on this subject...?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Stop mixing Title IX and Cleary as they have two different purposes.
Do you agree that Cleary is a mess? It seems like you and I agree on this subject...?

The Clery Act and Title IX both pertains to establishing a safe environment on on-campus that is a compliance learning induction. The Clery Act applies to certain crimes (see Clery Act Crime Catergories) occurring on University property reported to the police (either University Police or another law enforcement agency) and/or university faculty or staff known as Campus Security Authorities (CSA). CSA’s are mandated crime reporters per the Clery Act. Crime statistics is then compiled and reported under the university's Annual Campus Crime and Fire Safety report.

Title IX prohibits discrimination based on sex in education programs and activities in federally funded schools. Title IX protects students, employees, applicants for admission and employment, and other persons from all forms of sex discrimination, including discrimination based on gender identity or failure to conform to stereotypical notions of masculinity or femininity. All students, faculty and staff at Federal Funded Universities (FFU) are protected by Title IX (regardless of gender, sexual orientation, gender identity, full or part-time status, disability, race or national origin) in all aspects of (FFU) educational programs and activities. All forms of sexual harassment, including but not limited to, dating and domestic violence, stalking, and sexual assault are violations of Title IX and prohibited by (FFU).

They touch one another and it is not that the Clery Act is a mess, but with how it is finally being implemented with Title IX and Reporting Crimes, plus Disclosures afterwards.

What is a mess is trying to comply with all aspects of both Laws! What happens on all Laws is not just their passing, but interpreting, enforcing, and regulating, and then investigating and even more regulating if some one alleges someone did not do there job.

For a simple example that is not even compliacted, if a State Trooper pulls you over and decides to not to give you a Ticket based on his Professional Judgment, it can be argued his is not enforcing the Traffic Laws, he is being Discriminatory, and can be subject to Discipline or Termination if a Video tape shows up later for doing it, and that will be on a Subjective and Objective argument decided by a Judge in a Lawsuit or other Procedures?

My views on them is unimportant and subjective even if I feel they are objective by others.

All these Laws passed in 1970s-80s-90s, are now merging into Lawsuits when Title IX & Clery Acts are part of Athletic Integrity and Codes of Athletic Conduct that must be overseen by all Universities. The quagmire now is just not in the implementation but just now being addressed. The Inequalities, Conflicts, and Criticism is just being seen now when they were passed over 40 years ago.

Federal law, particularly Title IX of the Education Amendments of 1972, requires that any school that gets federal money must promise that all students have equal access to education, and that sexual assault is a form of sex discrimination. This even a person or minor wasn’t a student, any report of rape on campus falls under the Title IX rules. The consequences of that means that campus police must alert a campus Title IX officer of the attack, and that office then has 60 days to investigate the case.

Now comes the Privy Issues, Title IX investigations are not held to the same standards as a criminal prosecution. Consequently, a university could use the results of that campus probe to discipline, suspend or expel a student even if prosecutors concluded the evidence didn’t justify criminal charges. A Title IX investigation is also secret, to protect both the victim and the alleged perpetrator.

Title IX officers are not required to confirm that an investigation has been launched, but they can choose to reveal a probe into a particular incident if doing so wouldn't expose the identities of people in the case.

This shows you how, the Clery Act & Title IX are interrelated even with different aspects goals under Law, Your own Hypo, has more Title IX aspects then Clery, but you are not wrong it can be confusing. This is why there is over 4 Hours of Employee & Student Orientation on both obligation to be aware of when being on a any Federal Funded University Campus. And many argue that is not enough?????

Football, Basketball and other Sports can't get a pass anymore and these incidents and the hypo you mention can make Coach, Recruit, or Player and now a Student Witness, be suspended, dismissed, and that affect a game we enjoy watching.

 

[CampGonorrhea]

The Cleary Act should be named The Penn St Act

Captain, for those that haven't read the Cleary Act let me give an example.

Suppose you are walking down a dorm hallway and hear a girl screaming out from a room. You open the door and see intercourse taking place and immediately call the police. The police arrive and find that the couple were having a vigorous sexual encounter. The University MUST report this as a crime according to the Cleary Act. Who would actually report this as a crime?

This Act is so screwed up it can't be saved...they have to start over.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

The Cleary Act should be named The Penn St Act

As I speak, Penn State has become a Model of Compliance and deserve Credit and Baylor is adopting almost every Reform instituted at Penn State.

I have always said one can learn from their mistakes to make more money, and Penn State is the place to hire away some of the People that put in the 2012 Reforms.

I understand the Banter and Expect Fans to Hate one another as they compete, that is natural and common.

But respect always has to remain after every game, because that games brings both joy and sighs most of the time based on the score. This is why it a better game to look forward together.

Behavior can be excused, ignored and we all get over it!

You know Feats of Athletic Strength was invented to Condition the Body as the Mind and remove Aggression needed in Wars by Men. Kings & Queens saw the value by replacing War with Athletic Competition.

Look how Sports has increased Racial Cultural Harmony Integration, added to University Coffers, and brings Nations together when competing and allowing that decide disagreements while admiring feats of strengths. It has also turn into another way to make Money when People gather to see them, Bookies Bet them, and People can earn livings instead of dying in costly Wars?

The one thing I saw on Penn State Rivals BWI Boards all of last year and this year, was nothing but class in with hopes and prays of James Conner Cancer Recovery, even it meant Penn State losing.

It was hard fought game 42-39 and Pitt Fans had big smiles in the First Half as Penn State had a Stomach Punch, and then Penn State Fans had a joyous reawakening as I sat a Bar in West Virginia watching Pitt Fans with desperate faces just glad to be holding on to a 3 point lead????

However, the best part of that game is how the PSU Players had big hand shakes and smiles with James Conner and he back at them for wishing him well, after that game he help win.

Why if more Winning by Pitt over the first 1900-1950 and Penn State over Pitt 1950-1999 with more Winning! It Created the Game you all enjoy today whether you want to admit or not and all of you are looking forward in 8 months!

My salute to Pitt & Penn State Fans, Posters and BWI & LAIR and tell these Lyrics to Alumni Sons and Daughters of Pitt & Penn State!



I am not dying just retiring and will be posting less on the Lair, most of you are Pitt's LAIR & Penn State's BWI Today & Tomorrow and I belong to Yesterday as Springtime passes me by on most Sports except the PITT-PSU Game still lights up my life!

Look Upward At Cathy & Onward At Old Main!

 

[Cardiac Hill Climbed]

Doing the right thing should not require training and deserves no accolades. It IS the right thing to do after all.

As I speak, Penn State has become a Model of Compliance and deserve Credit and Baylor is adopting almost every Reform instituted at Penn State, I have always said one can learn from their mistakes to make more money, and Penn State is the place to hire away some of the People that put in the 2012 Reforms.

I understand the Banter and Expect Fans to Hate one another as they compete, that is natural and common but respect always has to remain after every game because that games brings both joy and sighs most of the time based on the score. But that is why it a better game look forward to together.

Behavior can be excused, ignored and we all get over it!

You know Feats of Athletic Strength was invented to condition the Body as the Mind and remove Aggression needed in wars by replacing it with Athletic Competition and another way to make Money when People gather to see them, Bookies Bet them, and People can earn livings instead of dying in costly Wars?

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

Doing the right thing should not require training and deserves no accolades. It IS the right thing to do after all.

Good comment, but Blind Ambition and Focus only on one thing like 409 makes one lose focus when in full control and can't be challenged.

Sometimes some people may lie to you about what they are doing and one only finds out slowly, even as time brings more suspicions. It is hard to accept in hindsight when that same person was fighting and building with what both thought was good things to do at those earlier times.

Easy to Judge but not all Trials & Lawsuits are over! All I can say, in my opinion, Penn State paid the ultimate price of its own name being shamed, and they did what was necessary to help the Victims. All PSU Fans regret what happen at Penn State and the blame has many opinion's.

I recently read something that made me reflect when someone does some horrible things, and then betrayal happens to anyone and you only find out later and can't do anything about it.

George Washington had the same experiences dealing with Benedict Arnold and as they fought together to form a New Nation & More Perfect Union for New People called Americans Citizens and no longer Obedient Servants!

I lived in Rochester and often went to Saratoga Race Track (Where Potato Chip was Invented by a Mistake and run by the Mob in 1920s. My penchants hanging with some Politicians & Bookies told me about this story below and went to Saratoga Historic Park and saw it and now will share it with the Lair for those may care to learn together.

Benedict Arnold & Washington:
After being passed over for promotion to the post of Major General, Arnold tendered his resignation. George Washington, however, refused to accept the withdrawal. Soon after, Arnold participated in the Battle of Saratoga, where he was again wounded in his left leg, the same leg that had been injured previously.

Soon after, Washington appointed Arnold military commander of Philadelphia, where his attempts to profit from his position ran afoul of local officials. In 1778 and 1779, Arnold expressed disappointment and pessimism about the prospects of the United States, and evidence mounted that he was conspiring with the British by exchanging sensitive military information for money.

Although cleared of a court-martial, Arnold was rebuked by Washington, who called his conduct "imprudent and improper.".............

Arnold resigned his post in Philadelphia and eventually gained command at West Point where he entered into secret negotiations with the British. He transferred money to British forces and passed on information that would aid the British in capturing West Point, while weakening the fort's defenses and thinning out its supplies.........

Arnold narrowly avoided capture by the Americans and eventually fled to England. Arnold served in the British army for the duration of the war, and then engaged in business in Canada and England until his death in 1801.

Since then, his name has become synonymous with moral failure, betrayal, and sinister self-interest. His complex legacy, however, is reflected in the unusual memorial to him at the Saratoga National Historic Park. The memorial consists of a statue of a detached leg in a boot, alluding to Arnold's heroism at Saratoga and the leg wound he suffered there. However, the statue does not bear his name.
LINK:
http://www.mountvernon.org/digital-encyclopedia/article/benedict-arnold/

 

[BuffetParrothead]

University sports are out of control!!!!!!!! By alot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is why I support the minor league approach for athletes who are not college material! That means those who can't get in the U through the normal admitance process!

If the NCAA looked past their noses they could bury almost any Top 10 program in football or basketball.

Not only the money offered in various forms and booster schemes but the other stuff that goes on.

Look at where alot of these athletes come from, they get into a U for the athletic ability, everything is provided for them including "academic help." Most aren't well adjusted U students and bring their prior values and behaviors with them. Most would no be admitted to these U's if it wasnt for sports and thats a large part of the problem. Judgement!

This is why I support the minor leauge approach like whats in place for the MLB and the NHL.

If you're not college material go to the minors, if you are you have a choice minors or college!

U's should not relax their standards for admitance for athletes and this doesn't just include academic standards.

A big piece of being accepted to a U is the college interview which PITT puts alot of wieght on or did when our kids were accepted.

Most of these athletics wouldn't get by the acedemic or interview standards without sports!
That's wrong and causes alot of these issues.

Another issue is the behavior of students under the influence who do things one day or night and regret them the next day. This has gone on forever but is more in focus these days by the University and law enforcement.
Example:
I graduated college in 1973 from a small school with an on and off nationally ranked NAIA basketball and baseball team who sent occassional players to the NBA and MLB (rookie of the yr pitcher mid 70's & nephew of famous Yankee pitcher attended) and a swimming team that produced 3 Olympic medals. I was on the wrestling team.

p.s. on some of the stuff that went on even in those days.
Five years ago I met a women who was TOP Senior VP of an investmant banking firm in NYC who I recognized from the college I attended.
I looked at her, she recognized me and we kinda laughed. We talked later on a long break from meetings.
She and her cohorts /soroity friends were "Hostesses" for the athletes at that school. She and her crew were frequent guests to the fraternities where the athletes stayed or hung out. In those days as she said it was part of college and fun. She went on to say today it starts out as fun and ends up being criminal.

She has two daughters one a cheerleader at Villinova, and one at Cornell. So she's up to date on today's developments.

As she said. Times have changed!
There's alot of blame to go around on this topic! Including personal responsibility!!

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

1) I wonder if these newest developments at Baylor might cause Matt Rhule to develop buyer's remorse.

2) You would think that someone who claims to be so knowledgable about the "Cleary" Act would be aware that it's actually the CLERY Act.

 

[Big Marty1]

University sports are out of control!!!!!!!! By alot !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
This is why I support the minor league approach for athletes who are not college material! That means those who can't get in the U through the normal admitance process!

If the NCAA looked past their noses they could bury almost any Top 10 program in football or basketball.

Not only the money offered in various forms and booster schemes but the other stuff that goes on.

Look at where alot of these athletes come from, they get into a U for the athletic ability, everything is provided for them including "academic help." Most aren't well adjusted U students and bring their prior values and behaviors with them. Most would no be admitted to these U's if it wasnt for sports and thats a large part of the problem. Judgement!

This is why I support the minor leauge approach like whats in place for the MLB and the NHL.

If you're not college material go to the minors, if you are you have a choice minors or college!

U's should not relax their standards for admitance for athletes and this doesn't just include academic standards.

A big piece of being accepted to a U is the college interview which PITT puts alot of wieght on or did when our kids were accepted.

Most of these athletics wouldn't get by the acedemic or interview standards without sports!
That's wrong and causes alot of these issues.

Another issue is the behavior of students under the influence who do things one day or night and regret them the next day. This has gone on forever but is more in focus these days by the University and law enforcement.
Example:
I graduated college in 1973 from a small school with an on and off nationally ranked NAIA basketball and baseball team who sent occassional players to the NBA and MLB (rookie of the yr pitcher mid 70's & nephew of famous Yankee pitcher attended) and a swimming team that produced 3 Olympic medals. I was on the wrestling team.

p.s. on some of the stuff that went on even in those days.
Five years ago I met a women who was TOP Senior VP of an investmant banking firm in NYC who I recognized from the college I attended.
I looked at her, she recognized me and we kinda laughed. We talked later on a long break from meetings.
She and her cohorts /soroity friends were "Hostesses" for the athletes at that school. She and her crew were frequent guests to the fraternities where the athletes stayed or hung out. In those days as she said it was part of college and fun. She went on to say today it starts out as fun and ends up being criminal.

She has two daughters one a cheerleader at Villinova, and one at Cornell. So she's up to date on today's developments.

As she said. Times have changed!
There's alot of blame to go around on this topic! Including personal responsibility!!

The only thing I would differ on is sexual assault numbers wouldnt go down much by eliminating all athletes (well adjusted or not). Its prevelant in all student bodies. From Ivy league to junior college its an issue.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

The only thing I would differ on is sexual assault numbers wouldnt go down much by eliminating all athletes (well adjusted or not). Its prevelant in all student bodies. From Ivy league to junior college its an issue.

I believe "sexual assault " today is hard to quantify due to the serial bogus accusers!

A neighbor who's head of security for a large local U said alot of coeds interprete things Sunday morning alot different than how they were thinking and acting Saturday night!

Years ago we had an incident involving a local football star who when to PSU, was their starting running back and had a good shot at the NFL.
He was charged with sexual assault by a woman on campus, she was convincing , he was dismissed from PSU in his senior year.

As it turns out one year later the woman was found to be a serial accuser and had done this exact thing to a Lehigh football player, in addition to others!

Years later the charges were dropped! The PSU player lost his senior year at PSU and a chance at the NFL.

There are lots of these cases all over the nation not just the famous one Duke lacrosse, U of Virginia Phi Kappa Psi ( I'm a Phi PSI). U of Texas had a bogus accuser a number of years ago I believe Colt McCoy was one of the targets.

I cant speak for the Baylor situation but the larger sexual assault picture is a slippery slope.
IMO the Baylor situation is a bit like concussions. While there are alot of legitimate cases there are alot of me too's all looking for money!

I believe there should be severe penalties for bogus accusers which might help sort this situation out so the authorities can deal with the real problems!

As our head of U security said its hard to determine whats real and whats not. Lots of these cases are dropped but thats years later which is to late for the accused!

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"TempleBAPittMPA, post: 1786668, member: 610"]1) I wonder if these newest developments at Baylor might cause Matt Rhule to develop buyer's remorse.
Matt is in it for the long haul until PSU job opens up. Baylor has the Boosters to help him, Texas has the Recruits for Matt to develop them, and the Big-12 is far better than AAC for Matt to earn more Coaching Wings. He is perfect for getting more out of his Players and make them better by the end of season. Baylor is making the same changes Penn State made in 2012, and that won't hurt Matt at all.

2) You would think that someone who claims to be so knowledgable about the "Cleary" Act would be aware that it's actually the CLERY Acts.
Someone should tell that to CrazyPaco too? Many at Penn State just never understood that Coach Paterno had passed his prime. Athletic Departments and University Compliance Offices had an increasing role under the Law whether the Coaches wanted to accept it not, things changed.

Art Briles asked about Compliance Rules and told to keep out and just Win. It was a Institutional University Breakdown both at PSU & BU! Much blame to go around and few have a clue since they do not follow it. However, they have hired the right people to investigate and put in reform changes they deserve recognition in doing it. PSU is back on track and BU will be back soon too. But never will One Coach ever come before the University again.

On another subject you know far more about.....Temple has done a remarkable job in overcoming many problems in FB & BB with great selection of Coaches. Temple's President is doing everything possible to get invited into a Power Conference. The problem is too few slots and tough location with Rutgers, Penn State Maryland in Big Ten, BC, Pitt, Cuse, VT & UVA in ACC, but if Big-12 ever expands to 6 Teams and comes more North than is a chance. Or there is a Major Re-Organization in CFB Power Conferences. I see that coming, but when is hard to gauge.

I was at Temple last May and very impressed with the changes there and at PENN too. Both have improved the areas greatly.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

"BuffetParrothead, post: 1787012, member: 23369"]I believe "sexual assault " today is hard to quantify due to the serial bogus accusers!

A neighbor who's head of security for a large local U said alot of coeds interprete things Sunday morning alot different than how they were thinking and acting Saturday night!

Years ago we had an incident involving a local football star who when to PSU, was their starting running back and had a good shot at the NFL.
He was charged with sexual assault by a woman on campus, she was convincing , he was dismissed from PSU in his senior year.

As it turns out one year later the woman was found to be a serial accuser and had done this exact thing to a Lehigh football player, in addition to others!

Years later the charges were dropped! The PSU player lost his senior year at PSU and a chance at the NFL.

There are lots of these cases all over the nation not just the famous one Duke lacrosse, U of Virginia Phi Kappa Psi ( I'm a Phi PSI). U of Texas had a bogus accuser a number of years ago I believe Colt McCoy was one of the targets.

I cant speak for the Baylor situation but the larger sexual assault picture is a slippery slope.
IMO the Baylor situation is a bit like concussions. While there are alot of legitimate cases there are alot of me too's all looking for money!

I believe there should be severe penalties for bogus accusers which might help sort this situation out so the authorities can deal with the real problems!

As our head of U security said its hard to determine whats real and whats not. Lots of these cases are dropped but thats years later which is to late for the accused!
I dealt with such issues in the 1970s-80s and your neighbor is well informative on a complicated societal change in roles in Athletics in 1970s and Social Media Today that reveals it and New Compliance Laws trying to resolve it all.

I recall was at Meeting when a young New District Attorney said she believed every Convicted Rapists should be castrated and older Defense Lawyer responded said, I can agree with that, so long as every Accusers that lied about her rape has her Tongue cut out! The New DA Blinked in silence and she now works on such cases for the Defense and on Advises Universities on Compliance Issues.

As shown and stated above many complicated issues among many Rights and Regulations and tough to handle and not all have perfect solutions. The bad news it still happens and Lawsuit afterward. The good news Compliance Offices are expanding and Societal Values won't tolerate Winning over Abusing!

Link To Think:
http://collegefootballtalk.nbcsport...players-present-case-before-university-panel/

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

1) I wonder if these newest developments at Baylor might cause Matt Rhule to develop buyer's remorse..

Good timing on your wondering question, here is a new Article on CBS Sports Today asking the same questions and giving an opinion.
Excerpt & Link:
How His Upbringing Turned Outsider Matt Rhule Into The Change Agent Baylor Needs
Rhule knows little about football in the state of Texas but his move to Waco just makes sense. This is going to sound weird, but it's time to trust the Baylor football coach.The reason mingled in the school's official suite last month during Baylor's Cactus Bowl game against Boise State. Matt Rhule was neither overbearing nor a wallflower. He also had no ties to the school, to the state or to its football culture…………………….It is a calling propped up by a seven-year contract because all indications Baylor's football renovation is going to take a while. It is a calling also because Rhule all but stared Phil Knight in the eye and turned down an offer from Oregon to come to Waco, Texas................
LINK:
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...att-rhule-into-the-change-agent-baylor-needs/