Romanticizing Pitt Stadium Attendance

[sherepower]

From 1973 to 1999, Pitt's average home attendance was 40,902. There were 158 home games played over those 27 years.

<30k: 23
30-40k: 49
40-50k: 40
50-60k: 41
>60k: 5

In 2000, Pitt played at Three Rivers Stadium and averaged 40,866.

<30k: 0
30-40k: 3
40-50k: 2
50-60k: 1

From 2001 to present, Pitt's average home attendance has been 46,298. There have been 104 home games over those 16 years.

<30k: 0
30-40k: 24
40-50k: 50
50-60k: 15
>60k: 15

There have been 20 home Pitt games played in front of 60,000+ fans since 1973... and 15 of those are in Heinz Field.

There have been 77 home Pitt games played in front of 50,000+ fans since 1973... and 30 of those have been in Heinz Field.





Here's Pitt's attendance by year, with stadium capacity in (), and record and final rank since 1973:

1973: 33,609 (56,500) 6-5-1
1974: 41,279 (56,500) 7-4-0
1975: 42,022 (56,500) 8-4-0 (#15)
1976: 45,405 (56,500) 12-0-0 (#1)
1977: 44,181 (56,500) 9-2-1 (#8)
1978: 49,472 (56,500) 8-4-0
1979: 41,029 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#7)
1980: 44,342 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#2)
1981: 50,854 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#4)
1982: 54,809 (56,500) 9-3-0 (#10)
1983: 49,905 (56,500) 8-3-1 (#18)
1984: 32,337 (56,500) 3-7-1
1985: 41,758 (56,500) 5-5-1
1986: 46,498 (56,500) 6-4-1
1987: 47,982 (56,500) 8-4-0
1988: 41,692 (56,500) 6-5-0
1989: 43,866 (56,500) 8-3-1 (#17)
1990: 38,290 (56,500) 3-7-1
1991: 36,362 (56,500) 6-5-0
1992: 32,687 (56,500) 3-9-0
1993: 30,184 (56,500) 3-8-0
1994: 31,566 (56,500) 3-8-0
1995: 33,145 (56,500) 2-9-0
1996: 30,796 (56,500) 4-7-0
1997: 39,710 (56,500) 6-6-0
1998: 39,433 (56,500) 2-9-0
1999: 41,138 (56,500) 5-6-0

2000: 40,866 (59,000) 7-5-0

2001: 48,915 (65,050) 7-4-0
2002: 44,424 (65,050) 9-4-0 (#19)
2003: 59,197 (65,050) 8-5-0
2004: 41,600 (65,050) 8-4-0 (#25)
2005: 40,272 (65,050) 5-6-0
2006: 43,305 (65,050) 6-6-0
2007: 33,314 (65,050) 5-7-0
2008: 49,352 (65,050) 9-4-0
2009: 53,438 (65,050) 10-3-0 (#15)
2010: 52,165 (65,050) 8-5-0
2011: 46,003 (65,050) 6-7-0
2012: 41,494 (65,050) 6-7-0
2013: 49,741 (65,050) 7-6-0
2014: 41,315 (65,050) 6-7-0
2015: 48,150 (68,400) 8-5-0
2016: 48,080 (68,400) 7-4-0

People refuse to understand. College football is thousands of times more popular now compared to back then. Thanks to the ESPN's and Fox sports TV stations.

If Pitt would win now like they did back then. Pitt would get at least 55,000 to 60,000 a game.

Shame Pitt didn't capitalize on the cable TV surge. Like many programs did back then.

Seriously, i can't believe people continue to bring up attendance numbers from the late 70's early 80's. Nobody really cared about the college game back then.

 

[bwh05]

People refuse to understand. College football is thousands of times more popular now compared to back then. Thanks to the ESPN's and Fox sports TV stations.

If Pitt would win now like they did back then. Pitt would get at least 55,000 to 60,000 a game.

Shame Pitt didn't capitalize on the cable TV surge. Like many programs did back then.

Seriously, i can't believe people continue to bring up attendance numbers from the late 70's early 80's. Nobody really cared about the college game back then.

This is also true as well.

 

[TD_istheman]

People refuse to understand. College football is thousands of times more popular now compared to back then. Thanks to the ESPN's and Fox sports TV stations.

If Pitt would win now like they did back then. Pitt would get at least 55,000 to 60,000 a game.

Shame Pitt didn't capitalize on the cable TV surge. Like many programs did back then.

Seriously, i can't believe people continue to bring up attendance numbers from the late 70's early 80's. Nobody really cared about the college game back then.

100% CORRECT , they don't want to believe this, it doesn't fit the narrative

 

[JED_72]

How many more people attend college football games than 30 or 40 years ago?

Is the average attendance for college football larger or smaller than 30 or 40 years ago?

Some of you act as though larger attendance now as opposed to 1981 is some kind of accomplishment.

Hint--attendance is up everywhere. And the fact that we average fewer fans in attendance than we did in 1982 is no advertisement for how great Heinz Field is as a home stadium. In fact, it's an indictment.

Oh, by the way, one more thing. If you're looking at the late 1990's as a comparison for attendance purposes (as a way to argue how great Heinz Field is), remember--those Pitt teams were awful during that time.

I guess you better let these writers know:

College football attendance drops for fifth straight year, but at slower rate (2015)
Home attendance at major college football games declined for the fifth straight year, though the rate at which crowds decreased has slowed, CBS Sports' Jon Solomon reports.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...s-for-fifth-straight-year-but-at-slower-rate/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/...l-attendances-do-remedies-exist/#71206f0f1cd5

With an average of 45,671 per game, the Football Bowl Subdivision drew a record 38,135,118 fans. (2013)

Part of the reason that for a period of years college FB attendance was increasing was in the increase in the # of colleges with FB programs.

ACC: Once again this conference ranked last among Power Five schools at 48,577, down 3 percent from last year. No. 1 Clemson was up 2 percent and jumped Notre Dame and South Carolina -- two teams it beat on the field -- among national attendance leaders.

Big Ten: Average attendance was 65,998, down from 66,939 in 2014 and 70,431 in 2013 (prior to Rutgers and Maryland joining the conference). Nine of the 14 Big Ten schools saw smaller crowds this year, including a 14-percent decline by Northwestern, which went 10-2.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

30 years ago. Same attendance. Any reasonable person knows that it should be much more compared to the tremendous growth of college football

Or not.

It was no boon from the 80s to 90s

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

People refuse to understand. College football is thousands of times more popular now compared to back then. Thanks to the ESPN's and Fox sports TV stations.

If Pitt would win now like they did back then. Pitt would get at least 55,000 to 60,000 a game.

Shame Pitt didn't capitalize on the cable TV surge. Like many programs did back then.

Seriously, i can't believe people continue to bring up attendance numbers from the late 70's early 80's. Nobody really cared about the college game back then.

Not in pittsburgh, which is the only relevant data point

 

[bwh05]

I guess you better let these writers know:

College football attendance drops for fifth straight year, but at slower rate (2015)
Home attendance at major college football games declined for the fifth straight year, though the rate at which crowds decreased has slowed, CBS Sports' Jon Solomon reports.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...s-for-fifth-straight-year-but-at-slower-rate/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/...l-attendances-do-remedies-exist/#71206f0f1cd5

With an average of 45,671 per game, the Football Bowl Subdivision drew a record 38,135,118 fans. (2013)

Part of the reason that for a period of years college FB attendance was increasing was in the increase in the # of colleges with FB programs.

ACC: Once again this conference ranked last among Power Five schools at 48,577, down 3 percent from last year. No. 1 Clemson was up 2 percent and jumped Notre Dame and South Carolina -- two teams it beat on the field -- among national attendance leaders.

Big Ten: Average attendance was 65,998, down from 66,939 in 2014 and 70,431 in 2013 (prior to Rutgers and Maryland joining the conference). Nine of the 14 Big Ten schools saw smaller crowds this year, including a 14-percent decline by Northwestern, which went 10-2.

Attendance is still up from the 80s

 

[TD_istheman]

Attendance is still up from the 80s

Doubled since the 80s, that's a fact , last few years it's down, overall way way way up

 

[UPitt '89]

Doubled since the 80s, that's a fact , last few years it's down, overall way way way up

In the south and west, where population has boomed.

In our area... nope.

 

[Pitt Law '04]

I guess you better let these writers know:

College football attendance drops for fifth straight year, but at slower rate (2015)
Home attendance at major college football games declined for the fifth straight year, though the rate at which crowds decreased has slowed, CBS Sports' Jon Solomon reports.
http://www.cbssports.com/college-fo...s-for-fifth-straight-year-but-at-slower-rate/

http://www.forbes.com/sites/prishe/...l-attendances-do-remedies-exist/#71206f0f1cd5

With an average of 45,671 per game, the Football Bowl Subdivision drew a record 38,135,118 fans. (2013)

Part of the reason that for a period of years college FB attendance was increasing was in the increase in the # of colleges with FB programs.

ACC: Once again this conference ranked last among Power Five schools at 48,577, down 3 percent from last year. No. 1 Clemson was up 2 percent and jumped Notre Dame and South Carolina -- two teams it beat on the field -- among national attendance leaders.

Big Ten: Average attendance was 65,998, down from 66,939 in 2014 and 70,431 in 2013 (prior to Rutgers and Maryland joining the conference). Nine of the 14 Big Ten schools saw smaller crowds this year, including a 14-percent decline by Northwestern, which went 10-2.

So? I'm talking about over the last 40 years. Not the last five. Nice try though.

 

[pitt-girl]

People refuse to understand. College football is thousands of times more popular now compared to back then. Thanks to the ESPN's and Fox sports TV stations.

If Pitt would win now like they did back then. Pitt would get at least 55,000 to 60,000 a game.

Shame Pitt didn't capitalize on the cable TV surge. Like many programs did back then.

Seriously, i can't believe people continue to bring up attendance numbers from the late 70's early 80's. Nobody really cared about the college game back then.

I'm not so sure - I think college football has always been very popular for many teams - for example Notre Dame or Michigan or tOSU. I mean think about the press received when Woody Hays punched that player. Are you saying no one was paying attention? I can't dispute numbers, but I think Pitt and Pittsburgh will always be an outlier just like Miami, regardless of the popularity.

 

[PITTsburghFAN]

I'm not so sure - I think college football has always been very popular for many teams - for example Notre Dame or Michigan or tOSU. I mean think about the press received when Woody Hays punched that player. Are you saying no one was paying attention? I can't dispute numbers, but I think Pitt and Pittsburgh will always be an outlier just like Miami, regardless of the popularity.

I'm 100% with you, Pitt Gal. I came of age as a sports fan when Majors and Dorsett came to Pitt. For better and worse, I was hooked from then on. EVERYTHING is more hyped now, in all sports. But I don't think college football is more popular based on a "q" factor or ratio of identification among the populace at large or even among sports fans. As one of the posters above notes, attendance across virtually ALL of colleges is actually down somewhat.

BTW - Pitt and Miami are not the only outliers in attendance... virtually ALL city universities (and I do NOT include STATE schools that happen to be in NFL towns, ala Minnesota, Washington, Cal) struggle with attendance when compared to state universities. Always has been, always will be.

AND!!! Small states (by population) suffer the same fate.

City universities that play big-time ball: Pitt, Miami, Syracuse, GA Tech, BC, Northwestern, Temple, Houston, Memphis, Louisville, Cincinnati. There are others, too. But among these, only Louisville really has a good attendance and they've been cultivated by lots of winning AND they don't have an NFL team.

Small state schools: UConn, WVU, Rutgers, Kentucky, Maryland, etc. These schools too often struggle with numbers in comparison to the huge state schools / land grants uni's of the BIG Phat and SEC.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Pitt Law 04 is 100% correct. The fact that Pitt attendance is in the same neighborhood now as it was 30 years ago is a sign of failure, not success.

Hey now! Did I just get a like from a 4 1/2 year old post?

 

[wbrpanther]

From 1973 to 1999, Pitt's average home attendance was 40,902. There were 158 home games played over those 27 years.

<30k: 23
30-40k: 49
40-50k: 40
50-60k: 41
>60k: 5

In 2000, Pitt played at Three Rivers Stadium and averaged 40,866.

<30k: 0
30-40k: 3
40-50k: 2
50-60k: 1

From 2001 to present, Pitt's average home attendance has been 46,298. There have been 104 home games over those 16 years.

<30k: 0
30-40k: 24
40-50k: 50
50-60k: 15
>60k: 15

There have been 20 home Pitt games played in front of 60,000+ fans since 1973... and 15 of those are in Heinz Field.

There have been 77 home Pitt games played in front of 50,000+ fans since 1973... and 30 of those have been in Heinz Field.





Here's Pitt's attendance by year, with stadium capacity in (), and record and final rank since 1973:

1973: 33,609 (56,500) 6-5-1
1974: 41,279 (56,500) 7-4-0
1975: 42,022 (56,500) 8-4-0 (#15)
1976: 45,405 (56,500) 12-0-0 (#1)
1977: 44,181 (56,500) 9-2-1 (#8)
1978: 49,472 (56,500) 8-4-0
1979: 41,029 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#7)
1980: 44,342 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#2)
1981: 50,854 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#4)
1982: 54,809 (56,500) 9-3-0 (#10)
1983: 49,905 (56,500) 8-3-1 (#18)
1984: 32,337 (56,500) 3-7-1
1985: 41,758 (56,500) 5-5-1
1986: 46,498 (56,500) 6-4-1
1987: 47,982 (56,500) 8-4-0
1988: 41,692 (56,500) 6-5-0
1989: 43,866 (56,500) 8-3-1 (#17)
1990: 38,290 (56,500) 3-7-1
1991: 36,362 (56,500) 6-5-0
1992: 32,687 (56,500) 3-9-0
1993: 30,184 (56,500) 3-8-0
1994: 31,566 (56,500) 3-8-0
1995: 33,145 (56,500) 2-9-0
1996: 30,796 (56,500) 4-7-0
1997: 39,710 (56,500) 6-6-0
1998: 39,433 (56,500) 2-9-0
1999: 41,138 (56,500) 5-6-0

2000: 40,866 (59,000) 7-5-0

2001: 48,915 (65,050) 7-4-0
2002: 44,424 (65,050) 9-4-0 (#19)
2003: 59,197 (65,050) 8-5-0
2004: 41,600 (65,050) 8-4-0 (#25)
2005: 40,272 (65,050) 5-6-0
2006: 43,305 (65,050) 6-6-0
2007: 33,314 (65,050) 5-7-0
2008: 49,352 (65,050) 9-4-0
2009: 53,438 (65,050) 10-3-0 (#15)
2010: 52,165 (65,050) 8-5-0
2011: 46,003 (65,050) 6-7-0
2012: 41,494 (65,050) 6-7-0
2013: 49,741 (65,050) 7-6-0
2014: 41,315 (65,050) 6-7-0
2015: 48,150 (68,400) 8-5-0
2016: 48,080 (68,400) 7-4-0

This has been a well known fact for years. But it doesn’t stop people from claiming the problem is no on campus stadium.

 

[Phillypanther2]

Hey now! Did I just get a like from a 4 1/2 year old post?

Pretty Impressive !!

 

[CaPAPITT76]

This has been a well known fact for years. But it doesn’t stop people from claiming the problem is no on campus stadium.

Here we go again...sii

 

[HailtoPitt]

This has been a well known fact for years. But it doesn’t stop people from claiming the problem is no on campus stadium.

Try reading this thread.

 

[HOF Coach]

Hey now! Did I just get a like from a 4 1/2 year old post?

Wow, talk about a slow response!

Congrats to you! ( I think?) 😉

 

[Panther_in_Kentucky]

Pitt Law and you are both wrong.

The population of Pittsburgh has shrunk since the 80s. The population of the local area has been flat.

Yes, college football attendance is up in the south and west... because those areas had a population boom over the past few decades.

Ps. Pitt's attendance in the 16 years at Heinz has been 15% higher than the last 27 years at Pitt Stadium - which coincided with the greatest run in Pitt football history.

Despite a mediocre team during our time at Heinz, we gave drawn 6k more fans per game.

And we're not sitting on shitty metal bleachers in a concrete monstrosity that smelled like piss and dirt and had a track that pushed the fans farther from the field.

There is literally nothing about Pitt Stadium that is better than Heinz except proximity to campus. Nothing.

You miss the point. The fact that there was a track around the football field means that Pitt could have eliminated the track, kept the shell and built a new hoops arena inside the venue simply by sliding the field 40 yards one way.

Pitt, run by the dumbest " Smart People" to walk the face of the Earth.

 

[OmarMarino]

I have yet to travel to an on campus college stadium that compares favorably to Heinz. Granted is too big and the yellow seats look atrocious- every other factor is superior to every power 5 stadium that I have been to and it's not even close.

Frankly, the ones who bitch and moan about being 3 miles away from campus don't really care about Pitt football.

Agree...the players love playing at Heinz Field as well.

 

[CJsE]

Hey now! Did I just get a like from a 4 1/2 year old post?

Damn, that's what I get for not looking at the date. Fine, take my like too.

 

[Dointhatrag]

Overall greater Pittsburgh population down 16% since 1970 as well
1970	2,759,443		−0.3%
1980	2,648,991		−4.0%
1990	2,468,289		−6.8%
2000	2,431,087		−1.5%
2010	2,356,285		−3.1%
2019 (est.)	2,317,600	[4]	−1.6%

 

[pittdan77]

Settle down, folks. On campus stadium threads are for June along with the griping over the herd of 3-stars that always seem to commit in June.

 

[Panther Holla]

For me personally, Heinz field much easier to get in and out of than Oakland was/will be . I remember searching for parking places there. Also, if seating is limited to 45k, seat "licensing fees" and season ticket packages will become significantly more expensive.

You got that right.

We'd need the subway to run into Oakland plus a major alteration to I-376 to allow access and egress before we could even think about a stadium there. I used to park at CMU and walk to Pitt Stadium, but that lot is gone now. Fortunately I found an inexpensive lot within a reasonable stroll to the Soldiers & Sailors shuttle for basketball games. Football gameday traffic would be worse now than it ever was in the old days.

 

[Ghost of Pitt Stadium]

You got that right.

We'd need the subway to run into Oakland plus a major alteration to I-376 to allow access and egress before we could even think about a stadium there. I used to park at CMU and walk to Pitt Stadium, but that lot is gone now. Fortunately I found an inexpensive lot within a reasonable stroll to the Soldiers & Sailors shuttle for basketball games. Football gameday traffic would be worse now than it ever was in the old days.

No it wouldn't. Plenty more parking in Oakland now than the 80’s. Did you ever hear of shuttles and park n ride. Been to south bend lately. 45k MPC is the answer. Demo the Pete. Tap federal infrastructure monies. Zero rate bonds.

 

[NTOP]

No it wouldn't. Plenty more parking in Oakland now than the 80’s. Did you ever hear of shuttles and park n ride. Been to south bend lately. 45k MPC is the answer. Demo the Pete. Tap federal infrastructure monies. Zero rate bonds.

Pitt would just screw it up. Why trade a great arena for a tiny place used 10 times a year?

 

[pittdan77]

No it wouldn't. Plenty more parking in Oakland now than the 80’s. Did you ever hear of shuttles and park n ride. Been to south bend lately. 45k MPC is the answer. Demo the Pete. Tap federal infrastructure monies. Zero rate bonds.

Haven't you heard? Pitt is moving it's campus to Johnstown. Or Cranberry. Something.

 

[NTOP]

Haven't you heard? Pitt is moving it's campus to Johnstown. Or Cranberry. Something.

Stadium will be in Crammedberry. Campus in Johnstown. The "T" will be expanded to campus. Greek clowns have a club car.

 

[Ghost of Pitt Stadium]

Pitt would just screw it up. Why trade a great arena for a tiny place used 10 times a year?

Do you not understand what MPC means?

 

[JohnnyGossamer]

Pitt Stadium sucked. Heinz is too big though. Is what it is...

 

[Ghost of Pitt Stadium]

Not me. I *KNOW* it is all about winning.

In the era you're talking about... it took 5 years of consistent winning before the place sold out for most games.

In 2003, it took a very good schedule and a Heisman candidate.

In 2009 and 2010... it took teams that were competing for BE championships until the final weeks.

*WINNING* is what matters. Not having the stadium on campus.

2003, 2009, and 2010 show what happens when there's a product to sell... as does 1981 and 1982.

Calls to return to an on-campus stadium miss the point entirely.

Pitt will never come close to selling out a 70k stadium. Even if they string five 11-1 seasons together. Their fan base diminishes each year as you old farts die off or can’t get out of bed. Gen z and millennials could care less. Right sized at 45k is the answer.

 

[caleco's]

From 1973 to 1999, Pitt's average home attendance was 40,902. There were 158 home games played over those 27 years.

<30k: 23
30-40k: 49
40-50k: 40
50-60k: 41
>60k: 5

In 2000, Pitt played at Three Rivers Stadium and averaged 40,866.

<30k: 0
30-40k: 3
40-50k: 2
50-60k: 1

From 2001 to present, Pitt's average home attendance has been 46,298. There have been 104 home games over those 16 years.

<30k: 0
30-40k: 24
40-50k: 50
50-60k: 15
>60k: 15

There have been 20 home Pitt games played in front of 60,000+ fans since 1973... and 15 of those are in Heinz Field.

There have been 77 home Pitt games played in front of 50,000+ fans since 1973... and 30 of those have been in Heinz Field.





Here's Pitt's attendance by year, with stadium capacity in (), and record and final rank since 1973:

1973: 33,609 (56,500) 6-5-1
1974: 41,279 (56,500) 7-4-0
1975: 42,022 (56,500) 8-4-0 (#15)
1976: 45,405 (56,500) 12-0-0 (#1)
1977: 44,181 (56,500) 9-2-1 (#8)
1978: 49,472 (56,500) 8-4-0
1979: 41,029 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#7)
1980: 44,342 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#2)
1981: 50,854 (56,500) 11-1-0 (#4)
1982: 54,809 (56,500) 9-3-0 (#10)
1983: 49,905 (56,500) 8-3-1 (#18)
1984: 32,337 (56,500) 3-7-1
1985: 41,758 (56,500) 5-5-1
1986: 46,498 (56,500) 6-4-1
1987: 47,982 (56,500) 8-4-0
1988: 41,692 (56,500) 6-5-0
1989: 43,866 (56,500) 8-3-1 (#17)
1990: 38,290 (56,500) 3-7-1
1991: 36,362 (56,500) 6-5-0
1992: 32,687 (56,500) 3-9-0
1993: 30,184 (56,500) 3-8-0
1994: 31,566 (56,500) 3-8-0
1995: 33,145 (56,500) 2-9-0
1996: 30,796 (56,500) 4-7-0
1997: 39,710 (56,500) 6-6-0
1998: 39,433 (56,500) 2-9-0
1999: 41,138 (56,500) 5-6-0

2000: 40,866 (59,000) 7-5-0

2001: 48,915 (65,050) 7-4-0
2002: 44,424 (65,050) 9-4-0 (#19)
2003: 59,197 (65,050) 8-5-0
2004: 41,600 (65,050) 8-4-0 (#25)
2005: 40,272 (65,050) 5-6-0
2006: 43,305 (65,050) 6-6-0
2007: 33,314 (65,050) 5-7-0
2008: 49,352 (65,050) 9-4-0
2009: 53,438 (65,050) 10-3-0 (#15)
2010: 52,165 (65,050) 8-5-0
2011: 46,003 (65,050) 6-7-0
2012: 41,494 (65,050) 6-7-0
2013: 49,741 (65,050) 7-6-0
2014: 41,315 (65,050) 6-7-0
2015: 48,150 (68,400) 8-5-0
2016: 48,080 (68,400) 7-4-0

those mid 90's are inflated as heck. you could hear a mouse fart from field to upper urinal then

 

[NTOP]

Do you not understand what MPC means?

Do you understand that Pitt will NEVER play football on campus, again. Ever been to the Carrier Dome?? Sux for both sports. Ain't happening, the Rooneys like the current setup. They rule Pgh.

 

[pittdan77]

Can someone get their MS Paint drawings ready?

 

[NTOP]

Pitt will never come close to selling out a 70k stadium. Even if they string five 11-1 seasons together. Their fan base diminishes each year as you old farts die off or can’t get out of bed. Gen z and millennials could care less. Right sized at 45k is the answer.

Tarp that POS on the Norside. Spend the money saved on a track & field stadium and dominate the ACC in that sport, recruiting in foreign countries and getting world attention.

 

[pittguy81]

No it wouldn't. Plenty more parking in Oakland now than the 80’s. Did you ever hear of shuttles and park n ride. Been to south bend lately. 45k MPC is the answer. Demo the Pete. Tap federal infrastructure monies. Zero rate bonds.

I thought that shuttles and buses were one of the main reasons to not have to use Heinz..........

Try upping your trolling game. "Demo the Pete...."? Must have a Trump U trolling certificate.

 

[DT_PITT]

No it wouldn't. Plenty more parking in Oakland now than the 80’s. Did you ever hear of shuttles and park n ride. Been to south bend lately. 45k MPC is the answer. Demo the Pete. Tap federal infrastructure monies. Zero rate bonds.

LOL

 

[pittguy81]

Pittsburgh used to be one of the biggest cities in the USA. Pitt Stadium was built that big because college football was "THE THING" in the 1920's and 1930's.....Pop Warner....Jock Sutherland....

I was at Pitt during the last "Golden Era", having started in 1977 and graduated in 1981. Pitt rarely had a sold out packed house even then coming off a MNC and 3 teams that went 11-1.

A lot of people here talk out of their a$$

 

[jivecat]

Buy the property (mostly abandoned) just beyond the Cost Center. Build a stadium into the side of the hill which will have the Pittsburgh skyline in the background. 45,000 should do it.

 

[pittguy81]

Buy the property (mostly abandoned) just beyond the Cost Center. Build a stadium into the side of the hill which will have the Pittsburgh skyline in the background. 45,000 should do it.

Buy up everything between McKee and Atwood from Forbes and Bates. Raze all of it and use that parcel.