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Sure he does. One of the few coaches to win both a National Championship and Super Bowl.Carroll doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as the other two
Saban was a complete failure in the NFL, while Carroll has a Super Bowl and National Championship under his belt.Carroll doesn't deserve to be in the same sentence as the other two
Nope. Nobody thinks Jimmy Johnson is the greatest ever. Great coach, hall of famer, but there's levels to this, and neither are on Saban and Belichick's level.Sure he does. One of the few coaches to win both a National Championship and Super Bowl.
Here’s a question I’m pondering: is Nick Saban retiring from coaching, or is he retiring from college football? Seems like a Jay Wright-esque decision to leave based on all the changes happening with the portal/NIL. Would he be tempted to take on an NFL job if the situation is right?1) Belicheck (It's harder to win in the NFL; I don't care who your QB is)
2) Saban
3) Carroll
Carroll is a unique case because I don’t think he’s one of the best college or NFL head coaches of all time, but his combined successes in both put him in a category of his own. I think Jimmy Johnson is a good comparison.Nope. Nobody thinks Jimmy Johnson is the greatest ever. Great coach, hall of famer, but there's levels to this, and neither are on Saban and Belichick's level.
Here’s a question I’m pondering: is Nick Saban retiring from coaching, or is he retiring from college football? Seems like a Jay Wright-esque decision to leave based on all the changes happening with the portal/NIL. Would he be tempted to take on an NFL job if the situation is right?
Do you think Pete Carroll would win multiple Superbowls with Tom Brady as QB?Nope. Nobody thinks Jimmy Johnson is the greatest ever. Great coach, hall of famer, but there's levels to this, and neither are on Saban and Belichick's level.
Carroll is a unique case because I don’t think he’s one of the best college or NFL head coaches of all time, but his combined successes in both put him in a category of his own. I think Jimmy Johnson is a good comparison.
Obviously Belichick and Saban are the greatest NFL and college coaches, but Carroll still deserves recognition amongst them.
Absolutely, I don’t disagree. And that’s a good way to view it. I just think the fact that he was one of the few coaches to have that type of success in both college and pros is very impressive and shouldn’t be underscored.To me, it's the difference between hitting for the cycle and hitting five homes runs in a game. It's cool that Carroll won one at both levels, but that doesn't even scratch the surface in comparison to winning six Super Bowls or seven National Championships.
Carroll would have had a few more National Championships had the NCAA not punished USC harsher for the Reggie Bush thing than they did for PsU covering up decades of children being raped in their facilities.To me, it's the difference between hitting for the cycle and hitting five homes runs in a game. It's cool that Carroll won one at both levels, but that doesn't even scratch the surface in comparison to winning six Super Bowls or seven National Championships.
I agree that Carroll is third. However, I think you’re selling him short. USC was the best team of the 00s. He won 2 National Championships and was the greatest championship game performance ever away from a third. USC also plays for two more if the CFP existed. He then went to the NFL and won a Superbowl.1) Belicheck (It's harder to win in the NFL; I don't care who your QB is)
2) Saban
3) Carroll
I agree that Carroll is third. However, I think you’re selling him short. USC was the best team of the 00s. He won 2 National Championships and was the greatest championship game performance ever away from a third. USC also plays for two more if the CFP existed. He then went to the NFL and won a Superbowl.
That’s a fair point.Yeah, but they also might not have won the two they did if it existed. There are pros and cons to having to win two games.
I think Saban is the greatest college coach. I don't know if we will ever see this Alabama run ever again.
Saban’s time with the Dolphins has to be one of the biggest “what-ifs” in NFL (and NCAA) history. It’s not like he was completely over his head; he coached under Belichick with the Browns in the 90s and his record with Miami was 15-17.Saban was a complete failure in the NFL, while Carroll has a Super Bowl and National Championship under his belt.
Yes.Do you think Pete Carroll would win multiple Superbowls with Tom Brady as QB?