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UNC Out of Conference

For as much as we criticize Pitt for the self-imposed gauntlets....

SEC team (South Carolina)... win
Big Ten team (Minnesota)... win
Upper-level G5 team (App State)... win

No one says you're not allowed to go out and win these things.

Check their recruiting rankings. When we recruit like that, we can schedule these stupid OOC series.
 
Are they getting any extra buzz from those wins than they would if they swapped App State and South Carolina for FIU and East Michigan? Good on them for winning but they prove the point even further IMO
 
Are they getting any extra buzz from those wins than they would if they swapped App State and South Carolina for FIU and East Michigan? Good on them for winning but they prove the point even further IMO

Oh I'm not saying it's smart. Just feels like sometimes we forget we're allowed to actually win some games and not everything can be blamed on the scheduling.
 
I'll be curious to see how UNC holds up over the course of the full season, playing that schedule.
 
Oh I'm not saying it's smart. Just feels like sometimes we forget we're allowed to actually win some games and not everything can be blamed on the scheduling.

No, we're never going to win those games. We've won 7 of the last 30. So stop playing them. Instead we scheduled UConn, who will be better and in the Big 12 when we lose to them in 2028 and this board melts down. Ball State was available.
 
They probably won't have too great of a season, but I don't think the body blows theory will be the reason. We won the Coastal in a year we played UCF, ND, and PSU OOC.
We won the coastal at 6-2 that year. We lost to a horrible UNC team that year -- early in the year, when we might have been beat up a bit. We went on our run of winning 4 straight conference games immediately after the bye week.
 
Nobody seems to get that playing garbage OOC does not work for Pitt.

Others that are always and already highly ranked, that are going to usually have at las least as good to better talent throughout their season… yes it is solid if cynical strategy. Start 3-0 and likely in the top 15 or higher. Gaming a bad system that was always fixed in their favor to begin with, works for them.

We on the other hand, that start the season ranked 50th or such … we either struggle or outright lose to these bad teams (and thus sink totally out of the stratosphere of rankings, never to return)…

…or at BEST the opponent is REALLY bad like Furman or Wofford or whatever it was we just played; we beat them by a deceptively high score; still don’t raise much if at all in the rankings; then we find ourselves utterly unprepared when we an actual opponent. We our heads smacked like in the Cincy game, and having had no real prep throughout camp or the first ‘game’ can’t react it.

If you want to say play three Woffords, in stead of ‘juggernauts’ like garbage Cincy and WVU, great, you are just postponing the inevitable. And as this season shows, it might not even work. Akron and Bowling Green would beat us with this QB.

And let’s not forget the attendance and ratings factors. Zero point zero interest playing the terrible opponents.

Better just to play as decent teams as we can. As Wolfie says here, be bold enough to buy the best players and coaches possible and a manly gameplan to compete against anyone you play, regardless of quality. The scheme of playing tomato cans just doesn’t work for us.
 
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Michigan, one of the most storied programs of all time, didn't want to play just 1 P5 OOC last year and this year and ran away from a series with UCLA. The penalty for this? Were they not considered for playoffs? The contrary, they got one of 2 big 10 spots last year.

The year Pitt only played 1 P5 OOC also happened to be the year to win the ACC. Coincidence? Hardly.

But by all means continue to schedule Cincinnati and WVU the year you play ND on the road. Does wonders for attendance. Can't be many P5's that play only 6 home games and a schedule with 11 P5 games. Unbelievable.

And Cinci before they were added to B12 was always a strong program and borderline P5. Heck they made the playoffs when they were in AAC. Heather should have done anything possible to get out of that series. 2-1 would sure look a lot better now and no one would remember in November who those wins came against. Heather needs to put the program in best position to succeed and that starts with scheduling
 
This debate really depends on what the goals and expectations are for the program. IMO Pitt would benefit from the buzz of being ranked than they get from playing games they can lose. You can dream of making the playoffs but Pitt does not invest in the program at the levels necessary to consistently compete for the spots in a 4 or 12 team playoff. So chase easy wins and create a buzz that gets the students engaged and gets you national media attention because they don't care about the schedule.
 
Sad when you play the predicted two worst teams in the Big 12 (one with a new coaching staff and the other head coach on the hot seat) and call it a gauntlet. I guess Gardner-Webb and Fischer-Price had games already scheduled. Pitt's infamous for playing down to the level of their lesser opponents.
 
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OMG!! We will have a terrible record this year because we stink, not because of our schedule. Our coaching, our recruiting are much bigger issues than the schedule !!
 
You schedule cupcakes for the next 5 years, so that you can win 9 or 10 games each year, and then you are ranked in initial poll. Pitt isnt ranked each year, because they average 7 wins. No one looks at who you beat, they look at what your record was.

I understand that schedules are made years in advance, but Pitt should be smart enough to think ahead.
 
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