‘Twas the weekend before netmas

[Pitt666]

Torvik estimates Pitt at 16. Current Torvik is 20. Ken Pom is higher at 13 and does not factor in location of games? Fingers crossed they start in the top 20. We need Ohio State to stay in the top 40 (Q1A; regular Q1 is 75). LSU will need to be top 50 to count as a Q1 and WVU would have to be top 75 to be a Q2. Miss State would also be helpful to be in the top 40, but may be hard after Butler loss.

Also, there were 13 AP ballots last week that included Ohio State. Only one of those had Pitt higher than Ohio State, so it will be curious where Pitt ends up on those. Pitt was ranked by 19 voters (16 did not have Ohio state ranked; 2 had Ohio state ranked higher; 1 had Pitt higher than Ohio state).

 

[DT_PITT]

Torvik estimates Pitt at 16. Current Torvik is 20. Ken Pom is higher at 13 and does not factor in location of games? Fingers crossed they start in the top 20. We need Ohio State to stay in the top 40 (Q1A; regular Q1 is 75). LSU will need to be top 50 to count as a Q1 and WVU would have to be top 75 to be a Q2. Miss State would also be helpful to be in the top 40, but may be hard after Butler loss.

Also, there were 13 AP ballots last week that included Ohio State. Only one of those had Pitt higher than Ohio State, so it will be curious where Pitt ends up on those. Pitt was ranked by 19 voters (16 did not have Ohio state ranked; 2 had Ohio state ranked higher; 1 had Pitt higher than Ohio state).

If you look at Torvik without the preseason ranking bias, we are #12.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Ken Pom is higher at 13 and does not factor in location of games?

Yes, it does factor in the location of games.

For example, right now his prediction is for us to beat North Carolina by 4 at home but lose to them by 2 on the road.

 

[Pitt666]

Yes, it does factor in the location of games.

For example, right now his prediction is for us to beat North Carolina by 4 at home but lose to them by 2 on the road.

Not sure if accurate then:

“1) NET uses game location as a factor in the ranking system, while KenPom does not factor where the game was played in rankings.”

Stats Corner: NET vs KenPom Rankings

How are the NET and KenPom

www.mwcconnection.com

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Not sure if accurate then:

“1) NET uses game location as a factor in the ranking system, while KenPom does not factor where the game was played in rankings.”

Stats Corner: NET vs KenPom Rankings

How are the NET and KenPom

www.mwcconnection.com

That is simply wrong.

His rankings even tell you exactly how much home court is worth for every team. For instance when we play at home is it worth 2.9 points, which is 191st in D1. Right now he has Texas Tech with the largest home court advantage (and the Hoopies are second). Navy has the worst home court advantage.

There are actually a couple of old posts on his site from seven years ago where he talks about home court advantage and why it's hard to measure and how he attempts to measure it.