2024 Trib's Terrific 25 Football All-Stars

[pittmeister]

Terrific 25

Donald Barksdale - Steel Valley, RB/LB - 5-11, 185, senior - Youngstown State

Dayshaun Burnett - Imani Christian, WR/DE - 6-4, 220, senior – Bench warmer U

Brock Cornell - West Allegheny, RB/DB - 5-11, 185, senior - Penn

Parker Cunningham - South Park, OL/DL - 6-4, 300, senior – James Madison

Eric Doerue - South Park, RB - 6-0, 210, senior - Uncommitted

Bradley Gompers - Central Catholic, WR/LB - 6-4, 213, senior - Duke

Tyler Eber - Thomas Jefferson, RB - 5-10, 175, sophomore

Elijah Faulkner - Central Catholic, RB - 5-9, 185, senior - Uncommitted

Tikey Hayes - Aliquippa, RB/DB - 6-0, 205, senior – Bench warmer U

Lincoln Hoke - North Allegheny, OL/DL - 6-2, 260, junior

Nick McCullough - Peters Township, WR/DB - 6-0, 165, senior - Uncommitted

Mason Metz - Avonworth, OL/DL - 6-1, 215, senior - Seton Hill to play baseball

Naytel Mitchell - Penn Hills, RB/DB - 5-10, 190, senior - Uncommitted

JaVaughn Moore - Bethel Park, RB - 5-11, 185, senior - Uncommitted

Tanner Pfeuffer - Bethel Park, QB - 6-6, 195, senior - Uncommitted

Matt Sieg - Fort Cherry, QB/DB - 6-1, 185, junior – Bench warmer U

Scoop Smith - Woodland Hills, WR/DB - 5-7, 150, junior

Kemon Spell - McKeesport, RB/DB - 5-9, 185, sophomore

Nate Stohl - Upper St. Clair, OL/DL - 6-3, 270, senior - Princeton

Khalil Taylor - Seton LaSalle, WR/DB - 6-1, 185, sophomore

Xxavier Thomas - Central Catholic, WR/DB - 5-11, 180, senior – Bench warmer U

Jay Timmons - Pine-Richland, WR/DB - 5-10, 175, junior

Shep Turk - Thomas Jefferson, OL/DL - 6-5, 285, senior - PITT

Mickey Vaccarello - Peters Township, TE/LB - 6-3, 215, senior - Stanford

Brayden White - Thomas Jefferson, WR/DB - 6-1, 175, senior - South Dakota

 

[bobfree]

One going to Pitt.

Lol.

This is the lowest this program has been since Majors 2

 

[TheWerewolfFromTwilight]

One going to Pitt.

Lol.

This is the lowest this program has been since Majors 2

I could see the Princeton dude coming home after four years.

 

[pittiswhereiamfrom2]

But I think they got the best one.

 

[pittmeister]

One going to Pitt.

Lol.

This is the lowest this program has been since Majors 2

In time, we will find out the best player that got away Is Bradley Gompers. The rest will be part time starters at best...

 

[Pittisit4me]

In time, we will find out the best player that got away Is Bradley Gompers. The rest will be part time starters at best...

Agree. Bench warmer U came in and swiped some good wpial players who will accumulate plenty of splinters in their ass!

 

[pittmeister]

Agree. Bench warmer U came in and swiped some good wpial players who will accumulate plenty of splinters in their ass!

They want to play in front of 100,000 fans... Can't blame them....

All they need to do is get a deck of Old Maid cards and make it happen...

 

[bobfree]

Listen to you guys.

We are just going to get less rated guys that won't help us beat MAC teams anyways

 

[Pittisit4me]

Listen to you guys.

We are just going to get less rated guys that won't help us bear MAC teams anyways

If they want to go there and warm the bench in front of 100,000 screaming nitwits, more power to them. These kids are marginal recruits, albeit the best a decaying wpial has to offer. If they are content up there getting splinters, I don't want them here.

 

[bobfree]

If they want to go there and warm the bench in front of 100,000 screaming nitwits, more power to them. These kids are marginal recruits, albeit the best a decaying wpial has to offer. If they are content up there getting splinters, I don't want them here.

Doesn't matter what you want they aren't coming.

I like PSU scouting and recruiting strategy better than ours.

 

[Pittisit4me]

Doesn't matter what you want they aren't coming.

I like PSU scouting and recruiting strategy better than ours.

Hey, they are clearly a better program in every aspect. The fact that they would rather go there and make zero impact in most cases, is an indictment of our program, our coaches, and our recruiting strategy. Would they really make a difference if we got them here?? I strongly doubt it.

 

[pittmeister]

Hey, they are clearly a better program in every aspect. The fact that they would rather go there and make zero impact in most cases, is an indictment of our program, our coaches, and our recruiting strategy. Would they really make a difference if we got them here?? I strongly doubt it.

Yeah.... We need more guys like Elliot Donald, Nahki Johnson, Dorian Ford, Derrick Davis, Phil Jurkovec, etc.. I'm sure players like that would've made the difference.

The highly rated WPIAL players (4 Star) have stunk over the last 10 years... Even the ones that don't go to Pitt don't make an impact either: Fearbry, Raines, Banks, etc...

But still posters insist that we need to get the top crop of the WPIAL so we can finish 2-10 instead of 7-6...

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Doesn't matter what you want they aren't coming.

I like PSU scouting and recruiting strategy better than ours.

Their strategy is to show recruits an electric game day atmosphere and pay them more $$$. How exactly should we counter that?

 

[Pittisit4me]

Their strategy is to show recruits an electric game day atmosphere and pay them more $$$. How exactly should we counter that?

We can show them a 3/4 to half empty Heinz field and a couple primanti's sandwiches!

 

[steelcurtain55.]

I like PSU scouting and recruiting strategy better than ours.

What is PSU's recruiting strategy?

 

[Pittisit4me]

What is PSU's recruiting strategy?

See the special Sauce's post just above.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

Agree. Bench warmer U came in and swiped some good wpial players who will accumulate plenty of splinters in their ass!

Is Bench Warmer U the team that is in the college football playoffs and has enormous support and resources?

 

[Pittisit4me]

Is Bench Warmer U the team that is in the college football playoffs and has enormous support and resources?

Indeed it is!

 

[mlvnsmly]

I could see the Princeton dude coming home after four years.

99 out of 100 USC kids are soft like Charmin. I can't think of anyone besides Doug Whaley and Sean Lee who weren't. Maybe Phil Dunn at Akron back in the 80s or whenever that was.

 

[bobfree]

What is PSU's recruiting strategy?

I'm saying they thought these kids were worth taking. We are acting like we wouldn't want them.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

99 out of 100 USC kids are soft like Charmin. I can't think of anyone besides Doug Whaley and Sean Lee who weren't. Maybe Phil Dunn at Akron back in the 80s or whenever that was.

Do you think Stohl is soft? If he's soft, then everyone he played against what?

BTW, did you think Mark Hondru was soft?

In the heyday of USC, I don't think anyone would consider them soft. If they were soft, then Jim Render was a magician.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Do you think Stohl is soft? If he's soft, then everyone he played against what?

BTW, did you think Mark Hondru was soft?

In the heyday of USC, I don't think anyone would consider them soft. If they were soft, then Jim Render was a magician.

USC was one of the most physical teams I saw all year among all 5/6A Schools.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Agree. Bench warmer U came in and swiped some good wpial players who will accumulate plenty of splinters in their ass!

They aren't going to play up there but could have contributed here. Pat can't sell local guys on actually playing football. Franklin tells them they can carry jock straps for 4 years and they run there as fast as they can.

 

[mlvnsmly]

Do you think Stohl is soft? If he's soft, then everyone he played against what?

BTW, did you think Mark Hondru was soft?

In the heyday of USC, I don't think anyone would consider them soft. If they were soft, then Jim Render was a magician.

Let me clarify a bit. Did Hondru seem soft in HS? He seemed to be a man among boys. USC has had plenty of those over the years. No. But go check out what he did at Delaware. Zilch. Alan Hamrick Sp? looked like the next Walter Payton in HS. Wonder what he did at Bucknell or Lehigh or wherever the hell he ended up. I'm saying that USC kids are mostly soft when they get to college. Almost always. I remember a couple kids that went to PSU (that had to have been a favor from Paterno to Render) on scholarship that had no business being on any college football field anywhere (not mentioning any names because that's just mean, but you can probably figure it out).

And Render was nothing but a typical gym teacher/football coach. He was like the the original Gary Gaines. 99/1 run/pass ratio and hope to win every game 7-3. Which worked in that era and probably still would today in in Western PA.

Jurys out on Stohl. But my money's on you never hearing about him ever again. I'd take Turk or the kid from EF 10 times out of 10 over any USC OL.

 

[bobfree]

Their strategy is to show recruits an electric game day atmosphere and pay them more $$$. How exactly should we counter that?

We lost 2 kids to fellow ACC schools with worse attendance than we have.

We have a loser mentality. That's the first thing that needs to change.

Syracuse could have kept Babers. Buy instead here comes 10 wins.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

We lost 2 kids to fellow ACC schools with worse attendance than we have.

We have a loser mentality. That's the first thing that needs to change.

Syracuse could have kept Babers. Buy instead here comes 10 wins.

We beat SU 41-13

 

[steelcurtain55.]

Let me clarify a bit. Did Hondru seem soft in HS? He seemed to be a man among boys. USC has had plenty of those over the years. No. But go check out what he did at Delaware.

Hondru was a 2x all conference player at Delaware at what 5'10" playing DT? Dude was an animal. You have no idea what you're talking about. This was during the heyday of that conference as well. The Yankee Conference was loaded from top to bottom.

And Render was nothing but a typical gym teacher/football coach. He was like the the original Gary Gaines. 99/1 run/pass ratio and hope to win every game 7-3. Which worked in that era and probably still would today in in Western PA.

Many hate Render because everything that doesn't involve football. Who TF cares how he created a dominant program. By your logic Bob Ladouceur is a bum because he ran the split back veer and created the greatest HS dynasty of all time.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

We beat SU 41-13

Correct. Now tell me whose season you’d rather have.

But even with that Cuse could go back to meh or worse. If McCord doesn’t get another year (sounds unlikely from what I’ve seen) and they don’t get a good QB, good chance they go back to mediocrity or hell - they might be susceptible to a crap season like Pitt had. I don’t know enough about their roster either way.

 

[mlvnsmly]

Hondru was a 2x all conference player at Delaware at what 5'10" playing DT? Dude was an animal. You have no idea what you're talking about. This was during the heyday of that conference as well. The Yankee Conference was loaded from top to bottom.

Many hate Render because everything that doesn't involve football. Who TF cares how he created a dominant program. By your logic Bob Ladouceur is a bum because he ran the split back veer and created the greatest HS dynasty of all time.

Ok man. Delaware. Wow. You got me. Who's next? Joel Minik? All those great Render players over a 40 year career at USC and how many made it to the NFL? ONE. In 40 years. Let that sink in.

I know you like to play the all knowing local HS football coach, but I have a ton of intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the USC High school football program under Render. I have no interest in doxxing myself, so I'll leave it at that.

 

[Pittisit4me]

They aren't going to play up there but could have contributed here. Pat can't sell local guys on actually playing football. Franklin tells them they can carry jock straps for 4 years and they run there as fast as they can.

I think Franklin tells them they can play there, maybe not right away, but, eventually, whether it's true or not. These kids get to go up there and witness a white out, where the atmosphere is special. They also get to see that football isn't everything up there, it is the only thing. The only thing that matters, that is. Players are treated like royalty. I mean who wouldn't want to be part of that. The problem is only 22 players can start and usually these wpial kids turn out to be superfluous. Some don't mind riding pine for 4 years, others, like John Petrishen move on to a place they can play. I understand any kid who thinks he is good enough going there, but, many are just not honest with themselves. Considering the current condition of our program and Narduzzi turning off the local coaches some years ago, none of this should be all that surprising.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

I think Franklin tells them they can play there, maybe not right away, but, eventually, whether it's true or not. These kids get to go up there and witness a white out, where the atmosphere is special. They also get to see that football isn't everything up there, it is the only thing. The only thing that matters, that is. Players are treated like royalty. I mean who wouldn't want to be part of that. The problem is only 22 players can start and usually these wpial kids turn out to be superfluous. Some don't mind riding pine for 4 years, others, like John Petrishen move on to a place they can play. I understand any kid who thinks he is good enough going there, but, many are just not honest with themselves. Considering the current condition of our program and Narduzzi turning off the local coaches some years ago, none of this should be all that surprising.

I thought that was part of thing with the QB who quit. Franklin told him he would start for at least 2 years but it didn't look like that would happen so he left. I'm sure he's not the only coach doing that.

 

[steelcurtain55.]

Ok man. Delaware. Wow. You got me. Who's next? Joel Minik? All those great Render players over a 40 year career at USC and how many made it to the NFL? ONE. In 40 years. Let that sink in.

So in 40 years, he's had 1 NFL player. That's an indictment of what exactly? Does it show he must have had some pretty tough and gritty kids? If you aren't one of the 1% who happen to make it to the NFL, you somehow aren't "tough?" C'mon now this is beyond dumb.

I know you like to play the all knowing local HS football coach, but I have a ton of intimate knowledge of the inner workings of the USC High school football program under Render. I have no interest in doxxing myself, so I'll leave it at that.

I don't pretend to have some super inside knowledge of the USC football program. However, I think this article sums up what his players thought of him. https://www.thealmanac.net/sports/2019/jan/09/players-react-to-renders-retirement/

 

[steelcurtain55.]

I think Franklin tells them they can play there, maybe not right away, but, eventually, whether it's true or not. These kids get to go up there and witness a white out, where the atmosphere is special. They also get to see that football isn't everything up there, it is the only thing. The only thing that matters, that is. Players are treated like royalty. I mean who wouldn't want to be part of that.

Franklin doesn't have to sell them on much. For kids in the PA/NJ/DMV area it's usually one of their top 3 choices even before they become recruitable. It doesn't matter if Franklin is the coach or whoever. Al Golden once said comparing recruiting Temple/UVA to PSU and he said it was night day. He had to sell a kid to go to UVA or Temple. He said at PSU we select who we want and the kids know that. Now you throw in NIL and it's just a different animal.

 

[pafootballguy]

We lost 2 kids to fellow ACC schools with worse attendance than we have.

We have a loser mentality. That's the first thing that needs to change.

Syracuse could have kept Babers. Buy instead here comes 10 wins.

Manny started recruiting Gompers when he was still at Penn State and Duke was his first real offer and that was really important to him.

 

[bobfree]

Manny started recruiting Gompers when he was still at Penn State and Duke was his first real offer and that was really important to him.

Thanks-

Sounds like relationships are more important than crowd size. Wish we would have fostered that.

 

[mlvnsmly]

So in 40 years, he's had 1 NFL player. That's an indictment of what exactly? Does it show he must have had some pretty tough and gritty kids? If you aren't one of the 1% who happen to make it to the NFL, you somehow aren't "tough?" C'mon now this is beyond dumb.

I don't pretend to have some super inside knowledge of the USC football program. However, I think this article sums up what his players thought of him. https://www.thealmanac.net/sports/2019/jan/09/players-react-to-renders-retirement/

Your arguments are straw man (render was a good coach) and the exception that proves the rule (this one guy in 49 years wasnt soft). It's not even about Render. Kids in USC grow up coddled. They just do. It has nothing to do with the coach. Almost all of those kids without exception find themselves in for a ride awakening at the next level. USC has had a great WPIAL team almost every year for eternity. But that has produced nearly zero D1 success.

And that article is anecdotal and has nothing to do with football success. You could've written the same article about Jerry Sandusky in 2005. And the success in life of kids from USC has zero to do with football coaching. It has to do with successful parents and being given every opportunity in life. Those stories in that article probably aren't even above the median for success in life when coming from USC.

 

[ChiefJusticeMarshall]

I think Franklin tells them they can play there, maybe not right away, but, eventually, whether it's true or not. These kids get to go up there and witness a white out, where the atmosphere is special. They also get to see that football isn't everything up there, it is the only thing. The only thing that matters, that is. Players are treated like royalty. I mean who wouldn't want to be part of that. The problem is only 22 players can start and usually these wpial kids turn out to be superfluous. Some don't mind riding pine for 4 years, others, like John Petrishen move on to a place they can play. I understand any kid who thinks he is good enough going there, but, many are just not honest with themselves. Considering the current condition of our program and Narduzzi turning off the local coaches some years ago, none of this should be all that surprising.

Q Martin will be an interesting case. They are just recruiting like 2-3 4-5 star RB's every year. Will be interesting if he changes position or goes into the portal.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

We lost 2 kids to fellow ACC schools with worse attendance than we have.

We have a loser mentality. That's the first thing that needs to change.

Syracuse could have kept Babers. Buy instead here comes 10 wins.

Peters kid and Central kid to Stanford & Duke. Pitt isnt good enough at football to offset the value of those degrees for kids from areas like that.

 

[Pittisit4me]

Q Martin will be an interesting case. They are just recruiting like 2-3 4-5 star RB's every year. Will be interesting if he changes position or goes into the portal.

My bet is he never plays a role there other than mop up. Franklin recruits that position too well. As has been speculated when he was being recruited, I don't think there is another position that fits his skill set. Perhaps at safety, but I doubt it. This kid was the type of kid that makes the grade of your recruiting class look good, but, never really moves you forward on the field. Franklin gets alot of these types, it why his classes look good, but he can't beat Ohio State.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

My bet is he never plays a role there other than mop up. Franklin recruits that position too well. As has been speculated when he was being recruited, I don't think there is another position that fits his skill set. Perhaps at safety, but I doubt it. This kid was the type of kid that makes the grade of your recruiting class look good, but, never really moves you forward on the field. Franklin gets alot of these types, it why his classes look good, but he can't beat Ohio State.

This is correct. He'll never play offense there but these kids don't care. He is happy to fill water bottles.