It doesn't have to be impactful to who will actually WIN the playoff, just like CHAMPION has nothing to do with BEST TEAM.
24 Team Playoff - December Madness
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It doesn't have to be impactful to who will actually WIN the playoff, just like CHAMPION has nothing to do with BEST TEAM.
why would it be any different than those same fans traveling in for any of the home games? Home team fans will come to games in December and January as much as they will in September and October. Actually more since the games will be in a post season format. What do the holidays have to do with it? If anything, it will be easier since out of town fans don't have to work around Christmas and new years..
Because those hotels, condos, etc. are booked a year+ in advance of games, so people have places to stay. The Universities are fully staffed instead of being without their huge contingent of student and support labor that makes gamedays at places like that work. People plan their vacations and time off around those games and gamedays. You'd be asking people to do that, without knowledge of venue on 5 to 6 day notice. You couldn't even set up contingency options in most of those places.
It isn't like Pittsburgh where you can find something/somewhere to stay, even if you have to pay more and stay in a part of town that isn't ideal. There literally aren't options in a lot of these college towns.
Uhhhh, yes.. good reply. didn't think about the short notice.. OK well you have a valid point yet again..
Doesn't matter at all! The structure was that the BE Champ determined by BE rules had an automatic Bid into the BCS, How good of a team we where subjectively had no relevance in who should go. That's how I want the whole playoff to be.
Of course it didn't, but that doesn't mean that wasn't true.
You don't care about the playoff. Even in this thread you have admitted you wouldn't watch the games unless you had a cheering interest and even then 3+ hours is too much for you.
You aren't a college football fan and that is fine.
My solution is this.... and it is meaningless, because I have no say in the matter. But here goes:
16-team playoff.
- All winners of P5 championship games are in. This would add excitement as VT and Florida would've had a chance to play their way in.
- The highest ranked team among the G5 is in. This would have given teams like Temple and Navy an extra reason to root againt WMU in the MAC title game.
- 10 at-large bids. Makes the final weeks of the season VERY important and tons of meaningful games.
- At-large bids and seeds determined by committee, as done now.
- Round-of-16 games are played second Friday/Saturday in December at venue of the higher seed. Would've been Dec 9/10 this year. Top 2 seeds get the Friday night games, giving them an extra day for the Round of 8.
- Round-of-8 games are played third Saturday in December at venue of the higher seed. Would've been Dec 17 this year.
- Final four games played, as done now, on New Year's eve. (this gives each of the Final 4 two weeks off).
- Championship game played, as done now, on second Monday in January. (gives both title teams 9 days off.)
- Reduce regular season back to 11 games. This makes the maximum games played 16... as opposed to 15 now. And only 2 teams would play 16 games. This is no different than the lower divisions of NCAA now.
Friday, December 9th:
7pm, ESPN: (16)WVU at (1)Alabama
9pm, ESPN2: (15)Western Michigan at (2)Ohio State
Saturday, December 10th:
Noon, ESPN: (14)Auburn at (3)Clemson
2pm, ESPN2: (11) Florida St at (6) Michigan
4pm, ESPN: (12)Oklahoma St at (5)Penn State
6pm, ESPN2: (9)USC at (8)Wisconsin
8pm, ESPN: (10)Colorado at (7)Oklahoma
10pm, ESPN2: (13)Louisville at (4)Washington
That would've been 4 Big Ten teams, 3 ACC teams, 3 Big 12 teams, 3 Pac12 teams, 2 SEC teams, and Western Michigan. At TON of money for all the P5 leagues.
On Saturday... always two games going on... one in second half and one in first half. An extravaganza of 13-14 hours of constant college football on Saturday.
Assume the home teams all won the first round.... here's what the next round would've looked like:
Saturday, December 17th:
Noon, ESPN: (8)Wisconsin at (1)Alabama
3pm, ESPN2: (7)Oklahoma at (2)Ohio State
6pm, ESPN: (6)Michigan at (3)Clemson
9pm, ESPN2: (5)Penn State at (4)Washington
Again.... 12-13 hours of college football.
Then you would have a New Year's Eve that looked like this year's.... .with two weeks for the fans of the four teams to plan their trips.
Most of the minor bowls would remain, and be played on the days between the playoff days. Here's what the other NY6 bowls would've looked like:
Rose: Stanford vs. Nebraska
Orange: Virginia Tech vs. LSU
Sugar: Florida vs. Iowa
Cotton: Utah vs Tennessee
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I am a college football fan. Being a fan doesn't mean you don't pick and choose and watch the specific games that matter most to you personally. To be a CFB fan, you don't have to watch every single CFB game that is broadcast. I figure I've watched 12-15 games this season in their entirety and parts of another 20 or so. That's a lot of college football to watch. I missed 2 Pitt games (Nova & Miami) and I watched about 5 other games. Being a fan of CFB doesn't mean you're obligated to watch every broadcast. What about Mt. Union fans, who attend every game of that DIII school, and are dedicated to watch whatever DIII playoffs that are televised, and if they don't watch the 'Bama/tOSU game are they "not CFB fans"?
Why a Monday? Why not a Friday? Monday at 8:45 pm kickoff really sucks when you have to work the next morning and you don't give a crap who wins. I'd watch a game where I don't care who wins and probably hate both teams if I didn't have to wake up early the next day.
My other alternative, which is good, how about the Final be on a Saturday night or a Sunday at 6:00pm on the weekend between the NFL Conference Championships and the Super Bowl, where there is no football?
I'm just saying that could do it without much change from how things are. I certainly support playing the title game on a Fri-Sat-Sun instead of a Monday.
That's immaterial to the plan I created though. ;-)
Of course, I do like your plan, not bad at all. I just hate the Monday night games. It wouldn't be bad, if they could kick it off earlier, like 7:00pm? But they start at 8:30 and of course have extra commercials and extra long half times, and it goes on forever. I get it that the west coast fans don't want KO at 4:00. That's why Fr-Sa-Su is better IMO.
didnt read all the responses, so if someone said this, sorry...
but, if I am going pro and will make millions a year as a high draft choice, I would be more upset at this plan. Why would someone sit our one meaningless game, but decide to play in 4 or 5 meaningless games? (Meaningless as in, not helping your future earning at all)
Not a swipe, and I am not against a playoff, I just think more kids would sit then, who would want that many games against top opponents back to back? Much Much higher chance at getting injured
Mcaffrey has an insurance policy that pays him tax free $5 million if he is injured and doesn't play in the NFL.
The policy also pays him $3.5 million if he is injured and falls out of the first round of the NFL draft.
Being that there are 40 bowl games every year... and at most maybe an average of ONE career-impacting injury to a potential draft pick each year - out of hundreds of potential draft picks..... the odds of him collecting on either the $5m or $3.5m policies are very very small. And if either of those happen, $5m + a Stanford education is a very nice payoff for never playing an NFL down. $3.5m + a later round draft (and the money that would come from it) is also a very nice payoff.
Those insurance policies are reason enough for him not to skip this game on the 1% chance that he has a career-impacting injury.
No, you aren't. You have readily admitted you don't watch games or follow the sport unless you have a specific rooting interest for 1 of a couple teams. That is not a college football fan. A college football fan watches games and especially watches playoff games and National Championships. You just admitted you have watched 12-15 games in a season of 15 weeks, when there is college football on Tuesday-Saturday and games the entire day Saturday. You don't care enough to catch 1 game a week. On average. A fan is a fanatic. Maybe catching 1 game a week and not watching the playoffs or the National Championship game means you are casually interested in the sport.
Correct, if someone does nothing but watch Mt. Union, they are Mt. Union fans and not college football fans. They are especially not FBS fans.
That sounds great, although I do think 8 is the better max for the playoffs. One problem I see with that is with games that early teams who miss their conference championship, but get in as an at large have a nice advantage of an off week to rest and conferences might be better off not having a conference championship game at all. That is not something I want to see eliminated.
I'm just going to take a guess and say the mayors of State College, Clemson, and Tuscaloosa would be ecstatic about the inconvenience of the short-notice of 80-100K people visiting and spending money on their town. Somehow I think it wont be the end of the world if these campus towns host playoff games on short-notice.
The mayors? What do they have to do with it? It is with the actual availability of options in those towns and the gameday operations the school handles. In places like that, gamedays are a monumental production. Meanwhile, the fans are screwed even more than they are now.
Conf championship is the only way to get an auto-bid. Just like Hoops.
If you don't win conf championship... you have to hope you did enough to be an at-large.
Another way to do it is to guarantee the conf champs home field in the first round.
Still a fan, what do you do sit around and watch games all day? You watch Tuesday Night MAC games too? Ohio vs. Buffalo? I'm a super die hard Steelers fanatic, I am an NFL fan. But the only games I watch in their entirety are the Steelers, Sure I may watch half of the 1:00 game or 2 hours of NFL RedZone. But NO I don't sit there and watch the Thursday Night Falcons/Jags color rush game in it's entirety. How many CFB games did you watch from beginning to end Mr. Superfan? If you're a fan of Pitt, and all you watch is Pitt games, you are still a CFB fan-that is after all college football. And sometimes I watch other stuff, I also am a soccer fan and in the fall I'll watch soccer games on a Saturday sometimes, or if the Penguins are on NHL Network on a Saturday Night in November, I'd definitely watch that over some College Gameday Saturday Night game that doesn't include Pitt. Me and those Mt. Union fans are CFB fans, no doubt about it, we pick out the games we want to see and watch, just maybe different games than you choose.
So conferences would cancel their championship game, and give up the money that generates, so teams could rest for the playoffs? I guess 12-0 'Bama could forfeit a win to the 2nd place team in their SEC division so they can take the at large bid and rest for a week? They could hook up with Christian McCaffery for a round of golf in Palo Alto with Tiger?
To potentially get extra teams (and extra revenue) into the playoffs? Sure.
Yeah, but they could award a conference championship without a game like the Big 12 did and the Ivy does in hoops without a conference tournament.
On Saturdays, yes, I usually attend a game and watch college football when I am not in the stadium because I love college football. I imagine I watch most (because obviously flipping back or having multiple TVs going you miss some) of at least 3-4 games a week, if not 5+. And, yeah, Thursday night is usually watching the game at a bar.
11 regular season games - The Power 5 teams that draw big home crowds and have the power will not go for it. This will also get rid of almost all of the good nonconference games.
It does seem like they will eventually go to 8 teams, because most sensible CFB fans want the conference championship games to matter and for their own teams to have an objective path to the playoffs, where school history doesn't matter and committees and opinion don't come into play.
And I think I may watch the playoffs next Saturday, if the weather's bad there will probably be nothing better to do, hopefully Washington upsets 'Bama, that would make the final more appealing to me. Wanting 'Bama to win is like rooting for the Yankees or the Patriots,
And I think I may watch the playoffs next Saturday, if the weather's bad there will probably be nothing better to do, hopefully Washington upsets 'Bama, that would make the final more appealing to me. Wanting 'Bama to win is like rooting for the Yankees or the Patriots,
