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7-5 Pat

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After inheriting Boyd, Conner, and Co. and doing 2 straight 8-4's. These are Duzz's season records:



2017: 5-7
2018: 7-6
2019: 7-5
2020: 6-5
2021: 11-2 *Covid Kenny
2022: 8-4
2023: will be very lucky to go 7-5

Lets be honest here. Duzz is a horrific recruiter and is a Covid Kenny year away from probably being fired. He has accumulated a G5 level team with only a few exceptions.
 
After inheriting Boyd, Conner, and Co. and doing 2 straight 8-4's. These are Duzz's season records:



2017: 5-7
2018: 7-6
2019: 7-5
2020: 6-5
2021: 11-2 *Covid Kenny
2022: 8-4
2023: will be very lucky to go 7-5

Let’s be honest here. Duzz is a horrific recruiter and is a Covid Kenny year away from probably being fired. He has accumulated a G5 level team with only a few exceptions.
The guy just won 20 games over the past 2 seasons, had a bunch of guys get drafted, and won the ACC Championship. Anyone with a brain and understands football knew this would be a step back year. I’d gladly take 7-5 and a win over WVU.
 
After inheriting Boyd, Conner, and Co. and doing 2 straight 8-4's. These are Duzz's season records:



2017: 5-7
2018: 7-6
2019: 7-5
2020: 6-5
2021: 11-2 *Covid Kenny
2022: 8-4
2023: will be very lucky to go 7-5

Lets be honest here. Duzz is a horrific recruiter and is a Covid Kenny year away from probably being fired. He has accumulated a G5 level team with only a few exceptions.
Probably a bit harsh. It’s closer to 8-4 Pat in reality. Just can’t dismiss a season. It’s kind of where Walt plateaued and where Wanny was headed in my opinion.
 
Well the rest of the acc is looking at our tail lights except Clemson...Pitt isn't built to stay in the stratosphere after the experience we lost last year. Pitt is playing better ooc than most who pad records
 
The guy just won 20 games over the past 2 seasons, had a bunch of guys get drafted, and won the ACC Championship. Anyone with a brain and understands football knew this would be a step back year. I’d gladly take 7-5 and a win over WVU.
20 wins in 2 seasons doesn’t really mean anything. It means something to the Pitt fans who haven’t sniffed success in so long, they made it mean something. But, if Narduzzi is selling that on the recruiting trail, no wonder the recruiting sucks.
 
People. Pat is OK. Is he perfect? No. Few coaches not named Saban or Smart are. He's a guy perfect for this town at this time. Anybody different, if he overperforms, will be gone in a minute. And then we are back to square one.

He's got both internal and external limits, like all of us. But I doubt we can do better. He wants to be here. Embrace him.
 
Probably a bit harsh. It’s closer to 8-4 Pat in reality. Just can’t dismiss a season. It’s kind of where Walt plateaued and where Wanny was headed in my opinion.

He actually dismissed two seasons, and didn't mention the same players went 6-7 the year before he got here.
 
Well the rest of the acc is looking at our tail lights except Clemson...Pitt isn't built to stay in the stratosphere after the experience we lost last year. Pitt is playing better ooc than most who pad records

Not sure what that is saying. The ACC besides Clemson has sucked. We have been very slightly better than the rest of the pack and now trending downwards. And there is no excuse anymore for losing experience. Cincinnati lost a whole team, got a new one and beat us, 2 weeks after their guys showed up on campus. There is the transfer portal. This is a business.
 
After inheriting Boyd, Conner, and Co. and doing 2 straight 8-4's. These are Duzz's season records:



2017: 5-7
2018: 7-6
2019: 7-5
2020: 6-5
2021: 11-2 *Covid Kenny
2022: 8-4
2023: will be very lucky to go 7-5

Lets be honest here. Duzz is a horrific recruiter and is a Covid Kenny year away from probably being fired. He has accumulated a G5 level team with only a few exceptions.

Yeah, the yearly, we lost the first game so we suck post.
 
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Yeah, the yearly, we lost the first game so we suck post.
Absent 2 years....one of which included a first round QB,

In a weak ass conference where we often avoided the best team

This program under Narduzzi is pedestrian and quite frankly irrelevant on the national level.

Defend all you like. 7-8 wins per year.....as many years as he has been here is a complete dissapointment.
 
Absent 2 years....one of which included a first round QB,

In a weak ass conference where we often avoided the best team

This program under Narduzzi is pedestrian and quite frankly irrelevant on the national level.

Defend all you like. 7-8 wins per year.....as many years as he has been here is a complete dissapointment.

Why is having a 1st round QB a disqualifier? Why would anyone dismiss that year or throw it out?

Why aren't you throwing 5-7 out, or 7-7?

They lost a game, time to fire the coach! Pretty freaking stupid.
 
Absent 2 years....one of which included a first round QB,

In a weak ass conference where we often avoided the best team

This program under Narduzzi is pedestrian and quite frankly irrelevant on the national level.

Defend all you like. 7-8 wins per year.....as many years as he has been here is a complete dissapointment.

No, last year was the same. 2021 was the same


I mean, we won 11 that year.

Every year isnt the same, the only thing that IS the same, is the fans go bonkers on our first loss. Yeah, we sucked last night, refs were good, crowd was good, we just sucked. We may suck this year, who knows, but the guy, as much as I normally hate that kinda coach, is a good coach, players love him, and we are doing well
 
Why is having a 1st round QB a disqualifier? Why would anyone dismiss that year or throw it out?

Why aren't you throwing 5-7 out, or 7-7?

They lost a game, time to fire the coach! Pretty freaking stupid.

exactly, why not throw out Cowher's hall of fame, since without Ben he didn't do much.

Panteras gets kind of worked up after these losses, he was on the ledge after WMU in 2021. He's usually a decent poster.
 
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exactly, why not throw out Cowher's hall of fame, since without Ben he didn't do much.

Panteras gets kind of worked up after these losses, he was on the ledge after WMU in 2021. He's usually a decent poster.

The loss sucks. Nobody is happy. Trashing the coach after every loss is dumb.

Let's see what happens next week and the rest of the year.
 
Duzz's record may not be good enough for its fan base, but it might be that five winning seasons and two losers over the last seven years with a 44-29 W/L record just may be good enough for Pitt's administrators. I guess we shall see.
 
Why is having a 1st round QB a disqualifier? Why would anyone dismiss that year or throw it out?

Why aren't you throwing 5-7 out, or 7-7?

They lost a game, time to fire the coach! Pretty freaking stupid.

No one is dismissing that year. And having a 1st Rouns QB is not a disqualifier. What if is saying though is he cant go better than 7-5 unless he has a 1st Round QB paired with a 1st Round WR. He's never going to have that again. So if he's here 10 more years, will he EVER even go 9-3 one more time?
 
20 wins in 2 seasons doesn’t really mean anything. It means something to the Pitt fans who haven’t sniffed success in so long, they made it mean something. But, if Narduzzi is selling that on the recruiting trail, no wonder the recruiting sucks.
Yeah. There is no doubt 2021 was a great year, about as good as we can hope for as a program.

But I’ve had the 20 wins over two years thing thrown in my face so much as well as the top 25 last year. Pitt gets some credit for salvaging the year, but frankly the year was a failure. They should have returned I think seven guys that got drafted including what would have been two first rounders, but instead ran one of those guys off and went 8-4, started 4-4, and went 5-3 in conference, against frankly a terrible conference slate.
 
No one is dismissing that year. And having a 1st Rouns QB is not a disqualifier. What if is saying though is he cant go better than 7-5 unless he has a 1st Round QB paired with a 1st Round WR. He's never going to have that again. So if he's here 10 more years, will he EVER even go 9-3 one more time?

7-5 Pat as you call him has the best winning percentage since Johnny Majors. Let that sink in.

Good QBs and good players are usually required to have good records. It's not rocket science, but glad you figured that out.
 
Absent 2 years....one of which included a first round QB,

In a weak ass conference where we often avoided the best team

This program under Narduzzi is pedestrian and quite frankly irrelevant on the national level.

Defend all you like. 7-8 wins per year.....as many years as he has been here is a complete dissapointment.
Elevating the program to heights not seen in 40 years isn't exactly pedestrian.

There are only about 15 to 18 programs that have a legit chance to win a national title. Pitt is certainly not one of those programs. It's not even close, and it won't be regardless of head coach. Pitt's not a exactly a program that has the potential to be relevant nationally.

I enjoy Pitt football a lot more since I've accepted it for what it is instead of bitching about what it isn't.
 
7-5 Pat as you call him has the best winning percentage since Johnny Majors. Let that sink in.

Good QBs and good players are usually required to have good records. It's not rocket science, but glad you figured that out.

He didn't have just a "good" QB and WR. He had 2 of the best in school history at the same time. That's never going to happen again. So if he doesnt have Heisman-ish QB and WRs at the same time, can he ever get to 9-3?
 
I get what you’re saying SMF, but I disagree with this idea of picking and choosing which years to count when assessing Narduzzi. Why shouldn’t 2015 or 2016 count? Chryst never finished above seven wins with them, yet you think those should be excluded.

Also, why should a quarterback that he recruited out of high school be held against him because he took advantage of a rule available to everyone? We don’t know what QB he recruits out of the portal to replace Pickett had he turned pro after the 2020 season.
 
He didn't have just a "good" QB and WR. He had 2 of the best in school history at the same time. That's never going to happen again. So if he doesnt have Heisman-ish QB and WRs at the same time, can he ever get to 9-3?

Why not? He went 8-4 with Slovis.

You can't pick and choose data points. You've essentially thrown 3 years out in this thread.
 
Yeah. Outside of one year with Kenny it seems like pat’s cap is 8-4. Now if we were in the SEC that would be one thing but in the ACC, especially last year going 5-3 in league isn’t cutting it

As opposed to your hero Paul Chryst who's cap was 6-6.

You're in your glory after a loss because you can bitch about the coach. SMF is looking to stir the pot, you just like walking around with clown shoes on all day.
 
After inheriting Boyd, Conner, and Co. and doing 2 straight 8-4's. These are Duzz's season records:



2017: 5-7
2018: 7-6
2019: 7-5
2020: 6-5
2021: 11-2 *Covid Kenny
2022: 8-4
2023: will be very lucky to go 7-5

Lets be honest here. Duzz is a horrific recruiter and is a Covid Kenny year away from probably being fired. He has accumulated a G5 level team with only a few exceptions.
2018 was 7-7, 2019 was 8-5, 2021 was 11-3, 2022 was 9-4.
 
8-4 is OK, it means I enjoyed at least 8 games either on TV or in person, I don't care about the "national picture" so I'm only watching these as stand-alone events with no concern as to if it leads to anything more.
 
So again, basically what smf is saying. A 7-5 regular season coach.
He's a 7.5 - 4.63 (~62%) regular season coach the last 8 years, and as werewolf pointed out, it's 7.75 - 5.13 (60%) with bowl games. No caveats, ifs, ands, or buts. That's what he is, and that's what he owns.

As I pointed out earlier, it's sadly the best since Jackie Sherrill.... 40 plus years ago.
 
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After inheriting Boyd, Conner, and Co. and doing 2 straight 8-4's. These are Duzz's season records:
2017: 5-7
2018: 7-6
2019: 7-5
2020: 6-5
2021: 11-2 *Covid Kenny
2022: 8-4
2023: will be very lucky to go 7-5
41-25 in the ACC is second best after Clemson during the Narduzzi tenure. That's about the most you can expect from a program that is usually around 10th-12th in the ACC in revenue, attendance, and spending. We well outperform where we should be. We often spend less than Syracuse, who is 18-39 in conference under Dino in a similar time frame. We have a conference title and two division titles in that time.
 
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