A bit of Steve Adams news ...

[DT_PITT]

... got his first career triple double last night. 10 points, 11 rebounds 10 assists.

That's a career high in assists for him. Interestingly, so far it looks like New Orleans is looking for him to score even less that OKC did.

 

[PA_Panther]

... got his first career triple double last night. 10 points, 11 rebounds 10 assists.

That's a career high in assists for him. Interestingly, so far it looks like New Orleans is looking for him to score even less that OKC did.

During the halftime of the clippers game last night they flashed the leaders and I saw he had ten assists. I assumed it was an error and was supposed to be in the rebounds category. If Steven keeps it up he’s gonna end up with another large contract. Stan Van Grundy is funneling all the dribble drives towards him and looks really good this season. He’s the perfect center for the turnstiles they have at the four other positions.

 

[TheDeanofPgh]

I root for Steven.
Good pro basketball player / good person / good personality

He's always made the best of his situation.
I've also rooted for OKC because of the OG'S of Steven / KD / Westbrook and

... got his first career triple double last night. 10 points, 11 rebounds 10 assists.

That's a career high in assists for him. Interestingly, so far it looks like New Orleans is looking for him to score even less that OKC did.

 

[dman34006]

During the halftime of the clippers game last night they flashed the leaders and I saw he had ten assists. I assumed it was an error and was supposed to be in the rebounds category. If Steven keeps it up he’s gonna end up with another large contract. Stan Van Grundy is funneling all the dribble drives towards him and looks really good this season. He’s the perfect center for the turnstiles they have at the four other positions.

He just signed a two year extension after the trade to the Pels.

 

[DT_PITT]

During the halftime of the clippers game last night they flashed the leaders and I saw he had ten assists. I assumed it was an error and was supposed to be in the rebounds category. If Steven keeps it up he’s gonna end up with another large contract. Stan Van Grundy is funneling all the dribble drives towards him and looks really good this season. He’s the perfect center for the turnstiles they have at the four other positions.

So far, for New Orleans, he's only averaging 10.5 FG Attempts per 100 possessions which is the lowest number since his rookie season. The highest he's ever averaged was 14.2 attempts per 100 possessions.

A center like Jokic or Embiid average well over 20.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

So far, for New Orleans, he's only averaging 10.5 FG Attempts per 100 possessions which is the lowest number since his rookie season. The highest he's ever averaged was 14.2 attempts per 100 possessions.

A center like Jokic or Embiid average well over 20.

Jamie's fault!

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

He just signed a two year extension after the trade to the Pels.

He also got a trade bonus this year, so he is making $29.6 million this year. The extension was for only $35 million over the next two years.

Only.

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

... got his first career triple double last night. 10 points, 11 rebounds 10 assists.

That's a career high in assists for him. Interestingly, so far it looks like New Orleans is looking for him to score even less that OKC did.

Can you imagine the numbers he’d have put up here if he was ever used correctly?

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Can you imagine the numbers he’d have put up here if he was ever used correctly?

Probably at least 3 more ppg

 

[FireballZ]

Can you imagine the numbers he’d have put up here if he was ever used correctly?

Well, no offense, but I’ll take his personal word over anyone else’s that he "wasn’t used properly" here. This aside, that team underachieved. I can’t imagine that is debatable.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Well, no offense, but I’ll take him personal word over anyone else’s that he wasn’t used properly here. This aside, that team underachieved. I can’t imagine that is debatable.

His word versus literally every coach he’s had in his life since Pitt .
Hmm
Tough one

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

His word versus literally every coach he’s had in his life since Pitt .
Hmm
Tough one

Well sure, but when has any athlete ever in the history of the world been wrong about their abilities?

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

Really improved passing. Most of the ones I saw are little dishes to Zion a couple feet away.
Only thing I hated was even after he knew he was gone, Jamie never waivered from sitting someone 20 min with 2 fouls. Made no sense for Adams at that point. Oh well.

 

[DT_PITT]

Well, no offense, but I’ll take him personal word over anyone else’s that he wasn’t used properly here. This aside, that team underachieved. I can’t imagine that is debatable.

Underachieved? That team was 12-6 in the Big East, good for 4th place in the league that year. They were ranked #20 in the country after the regular season. They also finished the season ranked #11 by Pomeroy and Jeff Sagarin.

There's no doubt that losing in the first round of the NCAA tournament was a real disappointment. But the issues/problem Dixon had meeting expectations in the NCAA tournament throughout his time at Pitt are more than well documented. In this particular case, Pitt deserved better than an 8 seed. But that's little consequence.

But coming back from a 5-13 season in the Big East the year prior makes it really difficult to classify that season as "underachieving" in my opinion. It's overachieving if anything, except for the NCAA tournament of course.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Underachieved? That team was 12-6 in the Big East, good for 4th place in the league that year. They were ranked #20 in the country after the regular season. They also finished the season ranked #11 by Pomeroy and Jeff Sagarin.

There's no doubt that losing in the first round of the NCAA tournament was a real disappointment. But the issues/problem Dixon had meeting expectations in the NCAA tournament throughout his time at Pitt are more than well documented. In this particular case, Pitt deserved better than an 8 seed. But that's little consequence.

But coming back from a 5-13 season in the Big East the year prior makes it really difficult to classify that season as "underachieving" in my opinion. It's overachieving if anything, except for the NCAA tournament of course.

There you go being rational and giving context

 

[King Of All Message Boards]

There you go being rational and giving context

And he didn’t even mention the dozens of times that it’s been pointed out how Adams is being used the exact same way in the NBA.

He just developed and is a much much better player. But it’s not like he morphed into something different.

 

[FireballZ]

Underachieved? That team was 12-6 in the Big East, good for 4th place in the league that year. They were ranked #20 in the country after the regular season. They also finished the season ranked #11 by Pomeroy and Jeff Sagarin.

There's no doubt that losing in the first round of the NCAA tournament was a real disappointment. But the issues/problem Dixon had meeting expectations in the NCAA tournament throughout his time at Pitt are more than well documented. In this particular case, Pitt deserved better than an 8 seed. But that's little consequence.

But coming back from a 5-13 season in the Big East the year prior makes it really difficult to classify that season as "underachieving" in my opinion. It's overachieving if anything, except for the NCAA tournament of course.

Fair enough. And I can't disagree that they should be been better than an 8 seed based on the in-season results and Wichita State is a real tough draw, but I don't see how winning zero postseason games can be termed anything less than disappointing. Lots of talent on that team when you look back at the roster and even though we had a FR PG, I'd say that was one of his best seasons.

And I use the term "underachieving" relatively based on the expectations of the program at the time. Obviously, we'd be doing cartwheels over a 4th place ACC finish these days, regardless of what happened afterwards.

 

[Ski11585]

And he didn’t even mention the dozens of times that it’s been pointed out how Adams is being used the exact same way in the NBA.

He just developed and is a much much better player. But it’s not like he morphed into something different.

I know people (I'm looking at you @Zeldas Open Roof) will pull out some quote from his autobiography about how he should have been able to shoot jumpers at Pitt. But if he was able to shoot jumpers reliably he 100% would be shooting them in the NBA. But he's not. And there's a reason for that.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

The biggest problem with Steven Adams at Pitt is we never guessed it would only be one year because he was so raw. I think no one thought he would stay for 4, or if he did, it was because he was a bust.

But it is hard for a Fr who is raw to come in and make a significant impact. And it is also partly timing. Add Adams to any Pitt team between 2002-2011 and his numbers wouldn't have been any better, but his impact may have been better because he would have been a presence in the paint on both ends. Still, Pitt's teams in those eras were never really done in by the 5 position and mostly on the wing or 2 guard.

 

[BFo8]

The biggest problem with Steven Adams at Pitt is we never guessed it would only be one year because he was so raw. I think no one thought he would stay for 4, or if he did, it was because he was a bust.

But it is hard for a Fr who is raw to come in and make a significant impact. And it is also partly timing. Add Adams to any Pitt team between 2002-2011 and his numbers wouldn't have been any better, but his impact may have been better because he would have been a presence in the paint on both ends. Still, Pitt's teams in those eras were never really done in by the 5 position and mostly on the wing or 2 guard.

I thought when he signed it was pretty apparent he would only be at Pitt for that one year, there were a few articles saying that had he went directly into the draft without playing college ball he was a likely 1st round pick on potential and athletic ability alone.

Even as he was supposedly saying he would return to Pitt his name was in pretty much every mock draft I remember seeing.

 

[Seneca_Valley]

I thought when he signed it was pretty apparent he would only be at Pitt for that one year, there were a few articles saying that had he went directly into the draft without playing college ball he was a likely 1st round pick on potential and athletic ability alone.

Even as he was supposedly saying he would return to Pitt his name was in pretty much every mock draft I remember seeing.

I thought he was going to hang around for two. And I would be willing to bet a few shekels that Dixon thought he would too.

 

[Ski11585]

The biggest problem with Steven Adams at Pitt is we never guessed it would only be one year because he was so raw. I think no one thought he would stay for 4, or if he did, it was because he was a bust.

But it is hard for a Fr who is raw to come in and make a significant impact. And it is also partly timing. Add Adams to any Pitt team between 2002-2011 and his numbers wouldn't have been any better, but his impact may have been better because he would have been a presence in the paint on both ends. Still, Pitt's teams in those eras were never really done in by the 5 position and mostly on the wing or 2 guard.

Patting myself on the back. @Sean Miller Fan can attest that I said Adams was a one and done from the very beginning. With that size and athleticism?

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Patting myself on the back. @Sean Miller Fan can attest that I said Adams was a one and done from the very beginning. With that size and athleticism?

Yes, obviously, the NBA like all other leagues draft for potential, not for immediacy. I think it was just wishful thinking by many of us that because he was not polished that he would come back for one more year. But, hey, you are a lottery pick, you have to go.

 

[Ski11585]

Yes, obviously, the NBA like all other leagues draft for potential, not for immediacy. I think it was just wishful thinking by many of us that because he was not polished that he would come back for one more year. But, hey, you are a lottery pick, you have to go.

No doubt. And it's obviously worked out for him. Chalk up his early departure as one of many, many, many, many, many Pitt "what if's."

 

[DT_PITT]

I thought he was going to hang around for two. And I would be willing to bet a few shekels that Dixon thought he would too.

I was told point blank from a very close, very good source, before Steve’s freshman year and even after he left, that Dixon and staff were planning on having Steve for two years. And right after his freshman season ended, he told the staff and his teammates that he was coming back.

 

[BFo8]

I was told point blank from a very close, very good source, before Steve’s freshman year and even after he left, that Dixon and staff were planning on having Steve for two years. And right after his freshman season ended, he told the staff and his teammates that he was coming back.

I remember hearing talk like that, but everyone shouldve known there was no chance of him returning when every mock draft was showing him going in the top 20 picks.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Patting myself on the back. @Sean Miller Fan can attest that I said Adams was a one and done from the very beginning. With that size and athleticism?

I can remember arguing with people here who said that he would come back because there was no chance that a guy with his limited experience would ever be a lottery pick, that he would be lucky to get picked in the first round at all. Those people obviously did not know what it was that NBA teams look for when they draft players.

 

[BFo8]

I can remember arguing with people here who said that he would come back because there was no chance that a guy with his limited experience would ever be a lottery pick, that he would be lucky to get picked in the first round at all. Those people obviously did not know what it was that NBA teams look for when they draft players.

The threads about Adams’ draft possibilities were some of the worst on here for sheer lack of understanding about how the system works. Multiple people were insisting he would have to start in the D League and work his way up, it was insane.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Multiple people were insisting he would have to start in the D League and work his way up, it was insane.

Including one who claims to know basketball.

 

[Ski11585]

I can remember arguing with people here who said that he would come back because there was no chance that a guy with his limited experience would ever be a lottery pick, that he would be lucky to get picked in the first round at all. Those people obviously did not know what it was that NBA teams look for when they draft players.

Including someone who boldly proclaimed the 2018-2019 Celtics to be the greatest most talented team ever.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

I can remember arguing with people here who said that he would come back because there was no chance that a guy with his limited experience would ever be a lottery pick, that he would be lucky to get picked in the first round at all. Those people obviously did not know what it was that NBA teams look for when they draft players.

One in particular doesn’t know basketball
He was a lottery pick midway through his season with Pitt