A Rough Week, Our Gas Problem & Other Dribbles ...
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Re: See ... there you go ...
DT:
I'm only saying that your post is filled with theories.
JD could do any one of a million of things. But the last 6 years of results are more meaningful to me when assessing the present and future.
And for the record, I don't see JD being able to get it done.
But I'd love to be wrong.
DT:
I'm only saying that your post is filled with theories.
JD could do any one of a million of things. But the last 6 years of results are more meaningful to me when assessing the present and future.
And for the record, I don't see JD being able to get it done.
But I'd love to be wrong.
Re: So, you couldn't name any players...that's what I thought
I'm not about to play the Duzzi vs JD as a recruiter game, since it's apples and oranges and idiotic. But are you actually bashing the new football coach as a recruiter when he's been on the job for all of 4 months?
C'mon now.
I'm not about to play the Duzzi vs JD as a recruiter game, since it's apples and oranges and idiotic. But are you actually bashing the new football coach as a recruiter when he's been on the job for all of 4 months?
C'mon now.
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I would even add that my post isn't even filled with theories. That's giving it too much credit.
Just opinions on the state of things written through a metaphor.
And of course, neither of us know if he'll get it done. There's plenty of history, both good and bad, from which to make guesses.
Like we've both said -- either he'll get it done or he won't.
I would even add that my post isn't even filled with theories. That's giving it too much credit.
Just opinions on the state of things written through a metaphor.
And of course, neither of us know if he'll get it done. There's plenty of history, both good and bad, from which to make guesses.
Like we've both said -- either he'll get it done or he won't.
Re: I suspect that ...
I agree with you. It's not even a discussion. One guy is a basketball coach who has been here for what, 12 years, the other is a football coach who has been here 4 months. There is no basis for comparison, and there almost couldn't be any due to how different the two jobs are.
However, even though it relates to nothing re: Dixon's recruiting, Narduzzi acquitted himself very nicely in that department in his 8 years at MSU. He has also been going about the job with a ton of energy and enthusiasm since he's been at Pitt, he has really opened the door and reached out to former players and coaches, local HS coaches and players, and he has prospects and their coaches visiting every practice. Il think he's going about it the right way, in time we'll see if it gets him anywhere, or of it's just SOP.
I agree with you. It's not even a discussion. One guy is a basketball coach who has been here for what, 12 years, the other is a football coach who has been here 4 months. There is no basis for comparison, and there almost couldn't be any due to how different the two jobs are.
However, even though it relates to nothing re: Dixon's recruiting, Narduzzi acquitted himself very nicely in that department in his 8 years at MSU. He has also been going about the job with a ton of energy and enthusiasm since he's been at Pitt, he has really opened the door and reached out to former players and coaches, local HS coaches and players, and he has prospects and their coaches visiting every practice. Il think he's going about it the right way, in time we'll see if it gets him anywhere, or of it's just SOP.
Re: I suspect that ...
I was only responding to the post that said that JD should look at how Narduzzi is doing things, because Narduzzi has gotten "great players". I was only saying that isn't exactly true at this point. Football and basketball are obv different. You can recruit well, locally, in football. Basketball has less scholarships. The basketball program has been much better than the football program lately.
Is it great that Narduzzi is this outgoing guy, and is doing all the right things, and that it will probably pay off...sure. But like you said, its apples and oranges. Just like I'm sure if Narduzzi has the type of career on the football field that Jamie has had on the court we will be building a statue of him.
I was only responding to the post that said that JD should look at how Narduzzi is doing things, because Narduzzi has gotten "great players". I was only saying that isn't exactly true at this point. Football and basketball are obv different. You can recruit well, locally, in football. Basketball has less scholarships. The basketball program has been much better than the football program lately.
Is it great that Narduzzi is this outgoing guy, and is doing all the right things, and that it will probably pay off...sure. But like you said, its apples and oranges. Just like I'm sure if Narduzzi has the type of career on the football field that Jamie has had on the court we will be building a statue of him.
Last line is very, very true*
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"Just like I'm sure if Narduzzi has the type of career on the football field that Jamie has had on the court we will be building a statue of him."
Agree
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"Just like I'm sure if Narduzzi has the type of career on the football field that Jamie has had on the court we will be building a statue of him."
Agree
This post was edited on 4/19 10:10 PM by DT_PITT
I appreciate the optimism and I am greatly, firmly in Jamie's court. No doubt my favorite figure in Pitt sports, for sure.
Anyone could see how hard he worked with the team to make it serviceable. The fact they won a few big games and were on the bubble has to be one of his best efforts ever. For whatever reason, this was a seriously bad defensive and rebounding team that was also inconsistent offensively. The status reflects poorly on him (as the HC) of course, but again, he also wrung big wins and bubble status out of it,which warrants praise for the coaching.
That all said, it seems so painfully clear that his assistants are not even close to getting it done. He deserves his rope, but this current group seems to deserve to be hanging by theirs.
If you have any connecting or insight we don't (and I certainly don't), do you know if the assistants are/were on the hot seat? If not, why not? Jamie is a coach who seems to dearly need good ones for recruiting.
Anyone could see how hard he worked with the team to make it serviceable. The fact they won a few big games and were on the bubble has to be one of his best efforts ever. For whatever reason, this was a seriously bad defensive and rebounding team that was also inconsistent offensively. The status reflects poorly on him (as the HC) of course, but again, he also wrung big wins and bubble status out of it,which warrants praise for the coaching.
That all said, it seems so painfully clear that his assistants are not even close to getting it done. He deserves his rope, but this current group seems to deserve to be hanging by theirs.
If you have any connecting or insight we don't (and I certainly don't), do you know if the assistants are/were on the hot seat? If not, why not? Jamie is a coach who seems to dearly need good ones for recruiting.
I really don't believe that I offered much ....
... optimism to appreciate in this post. I think the only think I wrote on the optimistic side was:
"For next year's race, we've actually got a fair amount of decent gas. And our Driver has shown that he can run a pretty good race with fuel that's been in the tank for a while. I still think we can do pretty well in next year's race. Maybe even better for the race after that too."
I do not have any specific connections or insight to offer about the status of our assistants. If I was betting, I'd put $10 bucks on the whole staff being back remaining for next October. But I wouldn't put more than $10 on it.
... optimism to appreciate in this post. I think the only think I wrote on the optimistic side was:
"For next year's race, we've actually got a fair amount of decent gas. And our Driver has shown that he can run a pretty good race with fuel that's been in the tank for a while. I still think we can do pretty well in next year's race. Maybe even better for the race after that too."
I do not have any specific connections or insight to offer about the status of our assistants. If I was betting, I'd put $10 bucks on the whole staff being back remaining for next October. But I wouldn't put more than $10 on it.
Re: Reply to you Iam ...
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Since I was in New Orleans last week I have been binge watching Treme since I got back home to continue the vibe. (As an aside I actually did listen to a band where the leader was on the first season of Treme as a very minor character) Based on watching Treme it really seemed like you wanted to do the John Goodman quote,..."Eff you, you effing effs." Clearly you need to replace the eff with the appropriate four letter word, but the flurry of bad hoops news just had me feeling that way.
Well, I guess my read of your post is that you just could not bring yourself to say how much last week sucked for you as it did for many of us on whatever level we place Pitt Hoops (just want to make sure SOUF can't dismiss me for being overzealous and claim he only responds to it like entertainment...Originally posted by DT_PITT:
Hey, if you found it extraordinarily silly, I certainly have no problem with that. I was just trying to find a way to say things a different way than most everyone has already said up to this point. Yes, it was a rough week. I know I was bummed. I hardly see any harm in trying to lighten it up a bit by talking about it something of a different way.
And despite how silly you found it, that didn't stop you from appropriately using the metaphor to make your reply. So you couldn't have found it TOO silly or TOO bizarre. Or even if you did -- it must have at least resonated with you somehow, now didn't it. Gotcha!
But most importantly, I was questioning your use of the "All is Well" reference. I think it quite clear from the post that I too believe there is a problem. Even the title is "our problem with gas." And even if you found the use of the metaphor to be bizarre, I believe my point is honestly critical.
That's where I took issue with your reply.
This post was edited on 4/19 6:34 PM by DT_PITT
Since I was in New Orleans last week I have been binge watching Treme since I got back home to continue the vibe. (As an aside I actually did listen to a band where the leader was on the first season of Treme as a very minor character) Based on watching Treme it really seemed like you wanted to do the John Goodman quote,..."Eff you, you effing effs." Clearly you need to replace the eff with the appropriate four letter word, but the flurry of bad hoops news just had me feeling that way.
Not sure why MY commentary is striking such a nerve with so many.
perhaps because it's hitting too close to home?
I'm just posting my opinions, like everybody else.
perhaps because it's hitting too close to home?
I'm just posting my opinions, like everybody else.
Everyone was jazzed about the attendence at the spring game.
No one really has much insight on how the players actually looked at the spring game.
Until he wins, I'm going to treat narduzzi like youngstown's version of todd graham. hes doing a great job selling, but i care about wins and avoiding 6-6 seasons moreso than public relations.
Re: Reply to you Iam ...
Fun response -- love the Goodman quote!Originally posted by IamHeisenberg:
Well, I guess my read of your post is that you just could not bring yourself to say how much last week sucked for you as it did for many of us on whatever level we place Pitt Hoops (just want to make sure SOUF can't dismiss me for being overzealous and claim he only responds to it like entertainment...).
Since I was in New Orleans last week I have been binge watching Treme since I got back home to continue the vibe. (As an aside I actually did listen to a band where the leader was on the first season of Treme as a very minor character) Based on watching Treme it really seemed like you wanted to do the John Goodman quote,..."Eff you, you effing effs." Clearly you need to replace the eff with the appropriate four letter word, but the flurry of bad hoops news just had me feeling that way.
Re: I really don't believe that I offered much ....
Well really one shouldn't gamble their hard earned money on something at the end of day that really doesn't put food on our tables. As for gas, I think we should all take some time out and reflect on our personal energy usage as today represents the 5th anniversary of the BP well explosion in the Gulf Of Mexico. May godspeed to all those affected.
I was emotionally wrecked upon leaving the Pitt-Butler game in 2011. I will never again be emotionally drained by anything bad that happens to Pitt sports. If they win, great. If they lose, I turn it off/leave and go do something else.
I'd like all Pitt sports to be as successful as possible, but I concede that will not always be the case. Why get any more invested in it than that? I was a beleaguered Pirates fan for most of my life, nothing Pitt does will ever be as epically disastrous as that.
Yeah.. I'm not going to pretend I wasn't similar.
I'd say the CBI season really put things in perspective; I really just turned off the games and went for a walk with my (then) pregnant wife.
I've been doing that a lot more lately... since, frankly, I don't want my son to watch or hear me being upset watching sports.
It's supposed to be fun.
Iam.......
Kind of going OT here, but as HUGE fans of The Wire, and the fact I lived near New Orleans for a couple of years, we watched all the seasons of Treme. Tremendous music, but honestly, that show just fizzled out. Very disappointing IMHO.Originally posted by IamHeisenberg:
Well, I guess my read of your post is that you just could not bring yourself to say how much last week sucked for you as it did for many of us on whatever level we place Pitt Hoops (just want to make sure SOUF can't dismiss me for being overzealous and claim he only responds to it like entertainment...Originally posted by DT_PITT:
Hey, if you found it extraordinarily silly, I certainly have no problem with that. I was just trying to find a way to say things a different way than most everyone has already said up to this point. Yes, it was a rough week. I know I was bummed. I hardly see any harm in trying to lighten it up a bit by talking about it something of a different way.
And despite how silly you found it, that didn't stop you from appropriately using the metaphor to make your reply. So you couldn't have found it TOO silly or TOO bizarre. Or even if you did -- it must have at least resonated with you somehow, now didn't it. Gotcha!
But most importantly, I was questioning your use of the "All is Well" reference. I think it quite clear from the post that I too believe there is a problem. Even the title is "our problem with gas." And even if you found the use of the metaphor to be bizarre, I believe my point is honestly critical.
That's where I took issue with your reply.
This post was edited on 4/19 6:34 PM by DT_PITT).
Since I was in New Orleans last week I have been binge watching Treme since I got back home to continue the vibe. (As an aside I actually did listen to a band where the leader was on the first season of Treme as a very minor character) Based on watching Treme it really seemed like you wanted to do the John Goodman quote,..."Eff you, you effing effs." Clearly you need to replace the eff with the appropriate four letter word, but the flurry of bad hoops news just had me feeling that way.
Re: Iam.......
Yeah, it lost its direction pretty quick.Originally posted by pitt-girl:
Kind of going OT here, but as HUGE fans of The Wire, and the fact I lived near New Orleans for a couple of years, we watched all the seasons of Treme. Tremendous music, but honestly, that show just fizzled out. Very disappointing IMHO.Originally posted by IamHeisenberg:
Well, I guess my read of your post is that you just could not bring yourself to say how much last week sucked for you as it did for many of us on whatever level we place Pitt Hoops (just want to make sure SOUF can't dismiss me for being overzealous and claim he only responds to it like entertainment...Originally posted by DT_PITT:
Hey, if you found it extraordinarily silly, I certainly have no problem with that. I was just trying to find a way to say things a different way than most everyone has already said up to this point. Yes, it was a rough week. I know I was bummed. I hardly see any harm in trying to lighten it up a bit by talking about it something of a different way.
And despite how silly you found it, that didn't stop you from appropriately using the metaphor to make your reply. So you couldn't have found it TOO silly or TOO bizarre. Or even if you did -- it must have at least resonated with you somehow, now didn't it. Gotcha!
But most importantly, I was questioning your use of the "All is Well" reference. I think it quite clear from the post that I too believe there is a problem. Even the title is "our problem with gas." And even if you found the use of the metaphor to be bizarre, I believe my point is honestly critical.
That's where I took issue with your reply.
This post was edited on 4/19 6:34 PM by DT_PITT).
Since I was in New Orleans last week I have been binge watching Treme since I got back home to continue the vibe. (As an aside I actually did listen to a band where the leader was on the first season of Treme as a very minor character) Based on watching Treme it really seemed like you wanted to do the John Goodman quote,..."Eff you, you effing effs." Clearly you need to replace the eff with the appropriate four letter word, but the flurry of bad hoops news just had me feeling that way.
Come on, Geno.....
we were 3-7 in our last ten, so I am guessing that was our late season swoon? In those ten games we scored 52 or less twice. We also scored 54 once, and I guess we could agree that was "52 or so". But we also had games in that stretch where we scored 89, 71 and 70.
The problem against NC State wasn't that we only scored 70, it's that we gave up 81 in a 62 possession game. The problem against Miami wasn't that we scored 63, it's that we gave up 67 in a 56 possession game. The problem against Wake wasn't that we scored 66, it's that we gave up 69 in a 61 possession game. If you really think that the "REAL problem" was the offense and not the defense, man, I'm just not sure what you were watching.
we were 3-7 in our last ten, so I am guessing that was our late season swoon? In those ten games we scored 52 or less twice. We also scored 54 once, and I guess we could agree that was "52 or so". But we also had games in that stretch where we scored 89, 71 and 70.
The problem against NC State wasn't that we only scored 70, it's that we gave up 81 in a 62 possession game. The problem against Miami wasn't that we scored 63, it's that we gave up 67 in a 56 possession game. The problem against Wake wasn't that we scored 66, it's that we gave up 69 in a 61 possession game. If you really think that the "REAL problem" was the offense and not the defense, man, I'm just not sure what you were watching.
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