Another Qb of the Board

[poconopanther]

the late interest we had in the Long Island Qb who up to a few weeks ago was headed to FCS Fordham signed with Michigan . what a difference in his recruitment.Whipple visited him at his school a few days ago. Three schollie Qb's is a bit risky . What if Patti goes through spring ball and is
Beaten out by Beville for the backup to KP and decides to enter the portal and possibly go to a FCS school? I think the staff will be pro active and add a Qb for depth or protection whether it be from the juco ranks or grad transfer .Like point guards you van never have enough. Qb's.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

the late interest we had in the Long Island Qb who up to a few weeks ago was headed to FCS Fordham signed with Michigan . what a difference in his recruitment.Whipple visited him at his school a few days ago. Three schollie Qb's is a bit risky . What if Patti goes through spring ball and is
Beaten out by Beville for the backup to KP and decides to enter the portal and possibly go to a FCS school? I think the staff will be pro active and add a Qb for depth or protection whether it be from the juco ranks or grad transfer .Like point guards you van never have enough. Qb's.

In my humble opinion.. Patti will be passed by.. our QB situation... hmmm.

 

[pittizit]

Our QB situation is a mess...and we do ourselves no favors with the recruiting misses

 

[HopeandChangeforAntoons]

Lol. Look at the kid’s offer list. Not knocking him, but if Pitt landed this kid (prior to UM offering) our fans would be in meltdown mode.

 

[Parkview57]

If Whipple can't recruit, it ain't gonna work.

 

[thebadby2]

In my humble opinion.. Patti will be passed by.. our QB situation... hmmm.

Have you ever seen Beville play at the college level?

 

[BFo8]

Have you ever seen Beville play at the college level?

We are semi-bashing Dan Villari here, when in actuality his offer sheet isn’t much worse than Beville’s.

 

[Saboteur]

the late interest we had in the Long Island Qb who up to a few weeks ago was headed to FCS Fordham signed with Michigan . what a difference in his recruitment.Whipple visited him at his school a few days ago. Three schollie Qb's is a bit risky . What if Patti goes through spring ball and is
Beaten out by Beville for the backup to KP and decides to enter the portal and possibly go to a FCS school? I think the staff will be pro active and add a Qb for depth or protection whether it be from the juco ranks or grad transfer .Like point guards you van never have enough. Qb's.

Harbaugh is not exactly cranking out QBs with high ratings. To the contrary.
Ohio State cleaned his clock again in recruiting. I have no knowledge on this kid, but the lack of offers this late in the process tells me the P5s didn't see much.
They could be wrong.
But they probably are not.

 

[gourdt]

Does anyone know anything about Eli Kosanovich? He put up good numbers at Aliquippa, and was a walk on last season. Is he a capable back up if needed. I'm not from the area so I have never seen him play.

 

[Pitt-Chains]

Have you ever seen Beville play at the college level?

You know that answer..

 

[PittFamily2]

Who was the last good PITT QB who was recruited as a HS player and came to the program as a freshman.
Palko? That was a long time ago.

 

[chirurgo]

Who was the last good PITT QB who was recruited as a HS player and came to the program as a freshman.
Palko? That was a long time ago.

Marino. Palko wasn’t that good either.

 

[bubba31]

Marino. Palko wasn’t that good either.

with a comment like that you certainly are opening up this thread for debate.

I wont agree / disagree. I will say I wish we had Palko this year. I promise Pitt fans wouldnt be complaining about the Quick Lane Bowl

 

[thebadby2]

We are semi-bashing Dan Villari here, when in actuality his offer sheet isn’t much worse than Beville’s.

I'm just responding to a guy who's suggesting Beville is going to pass Patti up on the depth chart. That may be but Beville hasn't taken a college snap. Nobody on this board has any idea how either Beville or Patti is going to pan out. They may both stink, one may emerge as legit and the other not so much, or they both may pan out.

All I know is we need to do a better job recruiting the QB position.

 

[chirurgo]

with a comment like that you certainly are opening up this thread for debate.

I wont agree / disagree. I will say I wish we had Palko this year. I promise Pitt fans wouldnt be complaining about the Quick Lane Bowl

I don’t think Palko would have done any better with the level of talent on the field. I don’t think he was a bad QB, but average. He managed a game well and was gritty. I think Western PA knows who he is, but outside of that he’s no Joe Flacco. Let’s also remember that he was throwing a large chunk of his passes to the greatest receiver of all time, Larry Fitzgerald.

 

[docpanther26]

I'm just responding to a guy who's suggesting Beville is going to pass Patti up on the depth chart. That may be but Beville hasn't taken a college snap. Nobody on this board has any idea how either Beville or Patti is going to pan out. They may both stink, one may emerge as legit and the other not so much, or they both may pan out.

All I know is we need to do a better job recruiting the QB position.

I don’t doubt we need to recruit a high level qb, definitely not arguing against that, however I didn’t find Whipple’a offense tremendously difficult. Like baseball, you throw the ball you catch the ball. We saw Pickett throw 95 mph fastballs at receivers 5 yards away, also throw behind, in front...and then the dreaded not catching the ball.

As someone mentioned earlier, we need an accurate qb who will lead the team. With wide receiver speed increasing just throw crossing routes all day! Just a thought.

 

[TheChair]

Palko never played with Fitzgerald when he was the starter. Palko’s first year as starter was the year after Fitzgerald left.

 

[chirurgo]

Palko never played with Fitzgerald when he was the starter. Palko’s first year as starter was the year after Fitzgerald left.

I stand corrected. Forgot Palko redshirted sophomore year. Greg Lee still better wide receiver than anybody currently on Pitt’s roster.

 

[HailToPitt1985]

Marino. Palko wasn’t that good either.

It was Marino. Everyone else was meh to lousy when they were recruited. We haven't recruited a true blue chip QB out of high school since Marino.

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

It was Marino. Everyone else was meh to lousy when they were recruited. We haven't recruited a true blue chip QB out of high school since Marino.

Your standard are pretty high buddy. You'll be dead before you're impressed with a Pitt QB recruit.

 

[HopeandChangeforAntoons]

I don’t think Palko would have done any better with the level of talent on the field. I don’t think he was a bad QB, but average. He managed a game well and was gritty. I think Western PA knows who he is, but outside of that he’s no Joe Flacco. Let’s also remember that he was throwing a large chunk of his passes to the greatest receiver of all time, Larry Fitzgerald.

Palko also had the benefit of that running game that featured LeSean McCoy and Dion Lewis.

 

[pittdan77]

Ideally, for a school like Pitt to win 10 games, I think you run the ball very well and have a game manager type of QB and I think that's what this staff is trying to do. Pickett has been bad at times but the offense isn't exactly loaded with weapons. If Pitt had a little bit of a consistent running game and cut way back on the drops, the season ends differently. Picket would still have been "meh" but that would be a different conversation.

 

[PittFamily2]

Ideally, for a school like Pitt to win 10 games, I think you run the ball very well and have a game manager type of QB and I think that's what this staff is trying to do. Pickett has been bad at times but the offense isn't exactly loaded with weapons. If Pitt had a little bit of a consistent running game and cut way back on the drops, the season ends differently. Picket would still have been "meh" but that would be a different conversation.

Yes!
Give Pickett an OL and a few good RB's and who knows.

Guys like Marino had a great OL, RB's and WR's.

Tino spent the majority of his time on his back ( like a $10 hooker), or running for the sidelines.

 

[chirurgo]

Your standard are pretty high buddy. You'll be dead before you're impressed with a Pitt QB recruit.

A blue chip recruit isn’t necessary at the position. Think of how many good QBs played on championship caliber teams that never made an impact in the NFL. A guy like Nate Peterman for instance shouldn’t be hard to recruit.

 

[BFo8]

It was Marino. Everyone else was meh to lousy when they were recruited. We haven't recruited a true blue chip QB out of high school since Marino.

Rod Rutherford was a huge recruit.

 

[rmf05]

Van Pelt was as good or better than Marino in college. Folks forget that Marino sucked as a Senior. He only had 1 great season, his junior year but even that year, he sucked against the only elite team he faced.

 

[Gary77]

Van Pelt was as good or better than Marino in college. Folks forget that Marino sucked as a Senior. He only had 1 great season, his junior year but even that year, he sucked against the only elite team he faced.

Georgia wasn't elite?

 

[thebadby2]

Rod Rutherford was a huge recruit.

So was Palko.

 

[UptownPrivileges]

Wish we had a Vanpelt Gonzalez or a Rutherford

 

[thebadby2]

Wish we had a Vanpelt Gonzalez or a Rutherford

Rutherford doesn’t get the credit he deserves from Pitt fans. He, Peterman and Palko are easily the high water marks for Pitt QBs since AVP. And Rod had a way better arm than the other two.

 

[PittFathead87]

Congemi, Van Pelt, Rutherford were all good college QBs and we’d be a top 25 team with any of them this year. Palko had his moments and left everything on the field.

Still haven’t given up on Pickett. Give him a half decent OL and some receivers who can actually hold onto the ball. And a functional TE?

 

[chirurgo]

I will give you AVP as an elite talent after Marino. He is easily forgotten in this span because the lack of a championship caliber team surrounding him. I liked Rutherford better than Palko as a QB. I liked Palko’s grit, just don’t believe he was as talented as many in Western PA think. Pickett is a very similar type player. I think we can win with him with the right supporting players. All depends on who steps up next year.

If Joey Yellen transfers here, I think talent-wise the QB position could be as good as Flacco/Palko if not better. It doesn’t mean anything if the team can’t block and catch. If they get 50% better, the program might finally turn the corner and gain some momentum. Everything else is in place with the exception of a new O-line coach.

 

[Pittski]

the late interest we had in the Long Island Qb who up to a few weeks ago was headed to FCS Fordham signed with Michigan . what a difference in his recruitment.Whipple visited him at his school a few days ago. Three schollie Qb's is a bit risky . What if Patti goes through spring ball and is
Beaten out by Beville for the backup to KP and decides to enter the portal and possibly go to a FCS school? I think the staff will be pro active and add a Qb for depth or protection whether it be from the juco ranks or grad transfer .Like point guards you van never have enough. Qb's.

Then you’ll have lost nothing because Patti isn’t good enough to win conference games with as a starter. If we’re getting shelled because we had a rash of QB injuries then shame on Pitt for not building an OL.

 

[thebadby2]

I will give you AVP as an elite talent after Marino. He is easily forgotten in this span because the lack of a championship caliber team surrounding him. I liked Rutherford better than Palko as a QB. I liked Palko’s grit, just don’t believe he was as talented as many in Western PA think. Pickett is a very similar type player. I think we can win with him with the right supporting players. All depends on who steps up next year.

If Joey Yellen transfers here, I think talent-wise the QB position could be as good as Flacco/Palko if not better. It doesn’t mean anything if the team can’t block and catch. If they get 50% better, the program might finally turn the corner and gain some momentum. Everything else is in place with the exception of a new O-line coach.

Are you saying Van Pelt didn’t have elite talent around him? Because that would be a gross misstatement. Those teams were loaded with the type of elite talent Pitt could never get a sniff from now.

 

[TheSpecialSauce]

Are you saying Van Pelt didn’t have elite talent around him? Because that would be a gross misstatement. Those teams were loaded with the type of elite talent Pitt could never get a sniff from now.

They went 3-9 his Senior year, and Van Pelt was the only guy drafted (8th Round).

 

[thebadby2]

They went 3-9 his Senior year, and Van Pelt was the only guy drafted (8th Round).

His first couple of years-especially 1989 and 1990-were some of the most talented rosters in Pitt history. The 1988 class is the highest ranked recruiting class in Pitt school history.

Lack of talent wasn’t the issue. frankly AVP wasn’t great. Not a very strong arm and three a ton of picks. Played behind outstanding OLs all 4 years.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

I don’t think Palko would have done any better with the level of talent on the field. I don’t think he was a bad QB, but average. He managed a game well and was gritty. I think Western PA knows who he is, but outside of that he’s no Joe Flacco. Let’s also remember that he was throwing a large chunk of his passes to the greatest receiver of all time, Larry Fitzgerald.

Who could ever forget the palko to Fitz combination smh. Any credibility you had is gone with that statement.

palko had zilch at rb and had a worse offensive line then we have now. His running backs where howlings and Shane brooks. Greg lee and the little white dude who got kicked off the team for theft was his wrs.

 

[chirurgo]

Who could ever forget the palko to Rutherford combination smh. Any credibility you had is gone with that statement.

palko had zilch at rb and had a worse offensive line then we have now. His running backs where howlings and Shane brooks. Greg lee and the little white dude who got kicked off the team for theft was his wrs.

huh? Palko to Rutherford combination?

 

[chirurgo]

Are you saying Van Pelt didn’t have elite talent around him? Because that would be a gross misstatement. Those teams were loaded with the type of elite talent Pitt could never get a sniff from now.

No. I am saying they were as good as a Blue Bonnet Bowl. They may have had talent but they weren’t much of a team to contend for anything beyond that.

 

[thebadby2]

No. I am saying they were as good as a Blue Bonnet Bowl. They may have had talent but they weren’t much of a team to contend for anything beyond that.

That’s where a coach would’ve helped. I think Gottfried’s last year was 8-3-1 with a loaded team coming back. He had a staff of assistant coaches that ultimately became successful NFL coaches. . Then he was fired-and in came Hackett.