Are Pitt players misjudging their draft worth?

[Gunga_Galunga]

Way too high on most of your projections. Warren will be sixth or seventh round at best.

I guess I think his pass blocking will be valued. Guess we'll find out.

 

[Millerton24]

I don't think Hill had a particularly solid season. I would guess he'll go in the 5th at best, unless he tests out of this world a pro day. I think he could have improved his stock by coming back.

If Baldonado leaves, I can't imagine him dropping past the mid-rounds. But I'd come back if I were him. He can do better.

Guys like Dennis and Wayne - yeah, there's nothing left to prove for them. Only reason I might consider coming back is to get an NIL nest egg to bank, because there are no guarantees in the NFL.

Kancey - While he has nothing left to prove, he did get surgery. So if that affects what he'll be able to do leading up to the draft, he might consider coming back, as crazy as it sounds.

I thought baldanaddo was non existent this year. I agree, he won't get drafted.

 

[BFo8]

That's where he's slotted in many draft experts' mock drafts. The others have him in the 2nd.

To be fair out of the 7-8 mock drafts I saw there was only one that had him going in the first round. Consensus right now seems to be late 2nd to early 3rd.

 

[fmi1]

I don't think Hill had a particularly solid season. I would guess he'll go in the 5th at best, unless he tests out of this world a pro day. I think he could have improved his stock by coming back.

If Baldonado leaves, I can't imagine him dropping past the mid-rounds. But I'd come back if I were him. He can do better.

Guys like Dennis and Wayne - yeah, there's nothing left to prove for them. Only reason I might consider coming back is to get an NIL nest egg to bank, because there are no guarantees in the NFL.

Kancey - While he has nothing left to prove, he did get surgery. So if that affects what he'll be able to do leading up to the draft, he might consider coming back, as crazy as it sounds.

Hill will run a 40 in the 4.3s.. and will be a 3rd or 4th round pick.

 

[Cap pitt]

Dennis 6th or 7th.

Baldanado undrafted free agent.

Hill- 4th or 5th round.

Kancey- 2nd or 3rd.

All of those guys have been here for 4 or more years. They have nothing left to gain by playing another year in colleg.

you never know what an extra year can do for your nfl worth, look at Kenny Pickett what coming back did for him

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Dennis 6th or 7th.

Baldanado undrafted free agent.

Hill- 4th or 5th round.

Kancey- 2nd or 3rd.

All of those guys have been here for 4 or more years. They have nothing left to gain by playing another year in college.

Maybe

Not so sure about giving up the extra college playing time (year).

Kenny Pickett received opinions relating to his NFL Draft rankings and the consensus was for him to stay and develop for an additional year at Pitt (which he did).

Worked out great for KP.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[cashisking884]

you never know what an extra year can do for your nfl worth, look at Kenny Pickett what coming back did for him

But that’s a player that has the physical traits, but has never put it all together.

That’s different than a player that doesn’t have all the physical traits, and has put what he has together.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

But that’s a player that has the physical traits, but has never put it all together.

That’s different than a player that doesn’t have all the physical traits, and has put what he has together.

We should have this conversation again when the NFL Draft is over and discuss.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[PittPharm2002]

you never know what an extra year can do for your nfl worth, look at Kenny Pickett what coming back did for him

Ya Kenny Pickett didn’t improve anything coming back an additional year, did he?

But, Your point is probably right on most of these guys with the exception of Hill, imo.

Okay
Maybe for a qb it would help but otherwise that’s it

 

[cashisking884]

We should have this conversation again when the NFL Draft is over and discuss.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Why? The conversation should really be had after the combine.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

That's where he's slotted in many draft experts' mock drafts. The others have him in the 2nd.

i have not seen him in one mock draft first rd but i'll keep looking, i could be wrong.. hey, he's a hell of a panther so i hope you are right..

Walter Camp one doesnt even have him in the top 3 rounds but surprisingly has Habo at #81.. maybe since he's not officially declared for the draft they arent including him..

Actually the more i think about it, that's probably the case. these mock drafts wont include under classmen until they officially announce they are leaving. Which again, makes sense so i stand corrected..

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[Section 509]

Kancey will be late 1st... or early 2nd... at the latest.

Izzy will be a 3rd or 4th rounder.

The rest might be accurate, but you're way off on those two.

I've seen about 4 mocks that are a full 3 rounds and I haven't seen kancey in any of those actually the only pitt guy I saw was haba in the 3rd rd in one of the mocks

 

[Section 509]

That's where he's slotted in many draft experts' mock drafts. The others have him in the 2nd.

What mocks are you looking at I haven't seen one that has him in the first couple rounds

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

What mocks are you looking at I haven't seen one that has him in the first couple rounds

do they include under classmen who have yet to announce that they are entering the draft? Maybe that's why? again, i dont know..

I havent seen him either but it makes sense that these mock drafts dont include juniors/sophomores who havent declared themselves nfl bound.

 

[Upg bobcat]

I don’t know where you came up with your 1st paragraph observation. From reading posts herein, my observation is the opposite, seems it is more the minority where anyone believes guys will improve their draft stock by coming back.

The vast majority of folks on this message board said Twyman made a mistake by sitting out. I don't think there was anything he could have done on the field to during the 2020 season to help himself out. He already had great tape of his playing capabilities. In contrast, he has a horrible 40 time for a defensive player and he needed to address that as best as he possibly could, and sitting out 2020 gave him a chance on that.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

The vast majority of folks on this message board said Twyman made a mistake by sitting out. I don't think there was anything he could have done on the field to during the 2020 season to help himself out. He already had great tape of his playing capabilities. In contrast, he has a horrible 40 time for a defensive player and he needed to address that as best as he possibly could, and sitting out 2020 gave him a chance on that.

Twyman is the epitome of what not to do and how to sabotage a once promising career.. he is the poster child for making a bad decision on college football and the nfl draft..

 

[Upg bobcat]

Twyman is the epitome of what not to do and how to sabotage a once promising career.. he is the poster child for making a bad decision on college football and the nfl draft..

How so? What could have done on the field in 2020 to make him have a good 40 time? He gained maybe 10 pounds but how do we know it wasn't muscle? He had a pretty good vertical for a 300 pounder, and an amazing bench press, so he might have been hitting the weight room very hard and otherwise training for the draft, which he could not have focused on had he been playing.

 

[Pittnerski]

everyone misjudged their draft stock except for 1st / 2nd round sure fire picks

Seems like grades are given, decisions are made, then by the time it all shakes out you’re two rounds later than your projection.

 

[Burgh15]

It's not *ME* saying Kancey is a late first rounder. It's every draft expert.

It's not *ME* saying Izzy will be a 3rd rounder. It's every draft expert.

A lot only have midseason evaluations and don't have full lists, but hardly every expert has these guys pegged in the late first and third rounds.

Kancey
-27 Pro Football Network
-45 on PFF midseason big board
-64 ESPN
-96 Draft Tek
-100 NFL Draft Buzz

Izzy
-73 Draft Tek
-159 Draft Countdown
-209 NFL Draft Buzz

 

[Section 509]

do they include under classmen who have yet to announce that they are entering the draft? Maybe that's why? again, i dont know..

I havent seen him either but it makes sense that these mock drafts dont include juniors/sophomores who havent declared themselves nfl bound.

I saw one that had haba going in the 3rd and I don't think he's declared yet ,I could be wrong and also maybe some mocks do and some don't

 

[The Ole Six-Fiver]

I think playing and starring at Pitt, might be preferable to meeting the harsh reality you might not be a proffessional athelete

Prolong the dream?

Getting on with your life's work happens soon enough.

Particularly now that you might be able to score a solid NiL deal to play another year (whether at Pitt or another college) Vs the gamble of the NFL. Granted it’s a better gamble for some than for others. Some are no brainers. But for guys such as Hill, I’m not sure what he’s hearing to be honest…it’s hard for me to believe it’s great stuff.

 

[pittguy81]

Twyman is the epitome of what not to do and how to sabotage a once promising career.. he is the poster child for making a bad decision on college football and the nfl draft..

And getting shot in DC before his first NFL camp......

 

[pittguy81]

Since Duzz has been here Pitt DB's have been a great value in the NFL draft....

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

And getting shot in DC before his first NFL camp......

taking a year off with only one good season under your belt and telling everyone you were helping your family out only to post tweets of your self wearing gold chains in DC was a pretty classy move too.

Like i said, the poster child for karma..

 

[Upg bobcat]

taking a year off with only one good season under your belt and telling everyone you were helping your family out only to post tweets of your self wearing gold chains in DC was a pretty classy move too.

Like i said, the poster child for karma..

I'm assuming Twyman didn't play so he could sign with an agent and train for the draft, which allowed him to afford gold chains -- and probably afford some other stuff to help his family out, too.

Izzy has only one good season under his belt. Is he making the same mistake as Twyman?

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

I'm assuming Twyman didn't play so he could sign with an agent and train for the draft, which allowed him to afford gold chains -- and probably afford some other stuff to help his family out, too.

Izzy has only one good season under his belt. Is he making the same mistake as Twyman?

lol, the infamous gold chains.. yep, good for him that he sat out and sabotaged his future to help his family out by buying those gold chains..