As expected - Asamoah to Oklahoma

[BuffetParrothead]

No recruit is coming here if they think the head coach is leaving in two years. It's a huge problem exacerbated by two OC leaving after one year. Now I am not saying they can't do a better job with making recruits believe they will be there for the next 4 years but it's a problem that coaches like DW didn't have.

Narduzzi is a really good HC and will be a great HC somewhere sometime.
Thats exactly PITT's problem.
I submit PITT needs to hire a proven " senior" HC who has PITT penciled in as his "last stop" who will hire and develope coordinators who can develope and step into the HC job minimizing program disruption.

 

[TD_istheman]

Narduzzi is a really good HC and will be a great HC somewhere sometime.
Thats exactly PITT's problem.
I submit PITT needs to hire a proven " senior" HC who has PITT penciled in as his "last stop" who will hire and develope coordinators who can develope and step into the HC job minimizing program disruption.

Or you can make Pitt a destination job, lots to offer!

 

[DiehardPanther]

Pitt needs to finally take a proven head coach , see VT ( the investment many on here speak of) , when when when we need one. Hopefully we are not an incubator for Michigan St, we did that once already recently , doesn't help the perception at all

It is a two way street that would require the other coach to be interested in you. There are not any established coaches at a Top 25 job jumping ship for us. Ain't happening.

 

[TD_istheman]

It is a two street that would require the other coach to be interested in you. There are not any established coaches at a Top 25 job jumping ship for us. Ain't happening.

If the money is right , the commitment is there, they can be allowed to work , there would be a lot of interest. Pederson and Nordy had a bad name out there for proven coaches to want to come to Pitt

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Or you can make Pitt a destination job, lots to offer!

Pitt wasn't a destination job when we were winning the national championship. Why would it be one now?

There are probably less than ten college jobs today that aren't stepping stones. We aren't one. We aren't going to be one.

 

[TD_istheman]

Pitt wasn't a destination job when we were winning the national championship. Why would it be one now?

There are probably less than ten college jobs today that aren't stepping stones. We aren't one. We aren't going to be one.

Disagree, Jackie was staying , Gotfired was staying , Wanny was staying , they all got run off , we are our own worst enemy

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Johnny didn't stay, Jackie didn't stay, and that's pretty much the end of the list of above average Pitt coaches since Jock Sutherland was run out of town. Who cares that a mediocrity like Gotfried wanted to stay? Of course he did, he had no other options (as evidenced by the fact that he never coached anywhere again). Of course Wanny wanted to stay, it was obvious when he took the Pitt job that if he wanted to work it was Pitt or nothing, and since he left Pitt absolutely no one has considered him for any head coaching job. Why wouldn't he have wanted to stay?

The fact that mediocre coaches want to stay at your school for as long as possible doesn't make you a destination job, it makes you a program that has lots of mediocre coaches.

 

[DiehardPanther]

If the money is right , the commitment is there, they can be allowed to work , there would be a lot of interest. Pederson and Nordy had a bad name out there for proven coaches to want to come to Pitt

Name one head coach at an established Top 25 program who we could pluck.

 

[TD_istheman]

Johnny didn't stay, Jackie didn't stay, and that's pretty much the end of the list of above average Pitt coaches since Jock Sutherland was run out of town. Who cares that a mediocrity like Gotfried wanted to stay? Of course he did, he had no other options (as evidenced by the fact that he never coached anywhere again). Of course Wanny wanted to stay, it was obvious when he took the Pitt job that if he wanted to work it was Pitt or nothing, and since he left Pitt absolutely no one has considered him for any head coaching job. Why wouldn't he have wanted to stay?

The fact that mediocre coaches want to stay at your school for as long as possible doesn't make you a destination job, it makes you a program that has lots of mediocre coaches.

Do you know why Jackie left? I will tell you if you don't know the story! Jackie wanted to stay btw.

Got fired got pushed out and so did Wanny

Administration is its own worst enemy, stand by that

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Yeah, I know why Jackie left. Which actually makes my point. He could have stayed. He didn't. He got a better offer elsewhere and he left. Gottfried and Wanny would have stayed forever, which is always true of coaches that no one else wants. All they prove is that if (or should I say when) Pitt hires mediocre coaches other schools are more than willing to let us keep them.

Total number of head coaching jobs at any level Gottfried and Wanny were offered after leaving Pitt: Zero
Total number of college coaching jobs of any type that Gottfried and Wanny had after leaving Pitt: Zero

The fact that you could theoretically keep a mediocre coach forever doesn't prove that you are a destination job, it proves (or would, if you actually did it) that you are happy settling for mediocrity. I'd have thought that even you could understand that. I guess not.

 

[TD_6082]

Johnny didn't stay, Jackie didn't stay, and that's pretty much the end of the list of above average Pitt coaches since Jock Sutherland was run out of town. Who cares that a mediocrity like Gotfried wanted to stay? Of course he did, he had no other options (as evidenced by the fact that he never coached anywhere again). Of course Wanny wanted to stay, it was obvious when he took the Pitt job that if he wanted to work it was Pitt or nothing, and since he left Pitt absolutely no one has considered him for any head coaching job. Why wouldn't he have wanted to stay?

The fact that mediocre coaches want to stay at your school for as long as possible doesn't make you a destination job, it makes you a program that has lots of mediocre coaches.

I'll take mediocrity like Gottfried & Wanny all day everyday over the guys we replaced them with. Ironically, Hackett landed a job at USC after he buried Pitt.

 

[htp123]

The one thing that is rarely mentioned is that a big part of our recruiting problems is "us"...we don't go to the games, when we do, we don't stay and the atmosphere is boring and empty. Half the seats around me last week were empty and 75% empty were after half time. 4 and 5 stars don't want, or need, to play in that atmosphere. We don't donate enough, we don't go to the games but we blame the coaches 100% for our recruiting problems?