Supposedly private schools are bad if you are Stanford and SMU, but not if you are TCU, Baylor, and BYU, and also on top of that, urban schools are bad if you are Pitt or Louisville, but not if you are Cincy, UCF or Houston.
B12 now wants remaining pac 4 schools
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Stanford is a national brand. I am semi-ok with them. BYU too but I wouldn't take BYU for other reasons. SMU, TCU, Baylor are all the same. Small schools, small fanbases.
Saying B12 now is the clear cut #3 is the equivalent of saying the B10 is the clear cut number 1 conference over the SEC
After Oklahoma and Texas leave the B12 has a total of 2 schools ever in the CFP with a record of 1-2 (Cincy 0-1, TCU 1-1)
ACC has a record of 6-5 with two national championships
Want to include the BCS? (back to 1998)
B12 5 additional BCS games (no team in championship game)
ACC 17 additional BCS games, 4 championship games and 2 more champions
After Oklahoma and Texas leave the B12 has a total of 2 schools ever in the CFP with a record of 1-2 (Cincy 0-1, TCU 1-1)
ACC has a record of 6-5 with two national championships
Want to include the BCS? (back to 1998)
B12 5 additional BCS games (no team in championship game)
ACC 17 additional BCS games, 4 championship games and 2 more champions
I disagree. TCU and Baylor sell out their stadium every game. TCU played in the national championship last year and Baylor was an OT loss from making the CFP in 2019.
SMU has the resources to be a consistent top 25 team.
If i had to guess, i would think SMU gets invited subject to a guaranteed commitment to elevate their football program
Whatever that may be
Whatever that may be
Ehh. They were selling P5 and SMU couldn't do that. SMU is paying 25K/year salaries and the other 2 arent. On a level playing field, the 3 are even. I wouldn’t necessarily want any of them but they are all similar. SMU may have the best potential.
I think SMU would get really good really quickly because they'd invest heavily. However, no one in Dallas or anywhere would care so I dont think its necessarily a good thing for a nothing private school to be running the ACC.
If SMU gets admitted to the ACC I won't be surprised if in addition to the money they've already put forward to make up for the lack of a conference share for the next 7 years; if their boosters don't quickly step up to make SMU's NIL collective one of the most well-endowed, if not the most well-endowed NIL collective in the country.
The same type of spending that brought them the death penalty may well bring them enormous success in the NIL era.
Re TCU/Baylor: Thats because they have stadiums that are 50K and 45 K respectively...the same logic for our fanatical friends who want to build a playhouse down in panther hollow.
College football: The Power 5's smallest stadiums
It’s time to flip the typical NCAA stadium list
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Can you find jobs for those language profs in Morgantown?? Sofa repairs?? Free MBA holders?
Phony dentist in the sticks? "Deliverance II" cast?
As long as you are content playing fantasy important person on here everyday, your opinion can matter in some context.
Is it though?
Listen I’d be happy for some road trips to Northern California -
But it would be not a value add to the acc
Which is why a few of the members submarined the vote
No they wouldnt
Buddy
What market value do you think wvu brings ?
Cincy and Louisville at least have TV sets in cities
Buddy -
The B12 is essentially CUSA/MAC/MWC now
Who is the marquee football team ?
You think replacing Oklahoma and Texas with G5 level teams is upping their value ?!?
Holy shit
The ACC in its current state has blue bloods FSU, Clem, Miami. But they may leave. The Big 12 has done very well with shit programs being good (KSt, OK St, Baylor, TCU). That cant last forever, especially with Texas becoming a full-fledged SEC state. Guys normally going to Baylor and TCU will now be going to Ole Miss, Ark, and Miss St
This is always the counter argument from B12 fanboys. The problem is they're still in the conference, and locked into a GOR until 2036. Until they actually do leave, this argument is the definition of specious.
Big difference between we know for 100% certain that UT and OU gone after this year vs. some ACC teams might leave at some unknown point in time.
Of course they do.
Because all they have is an education from places like West Virginia and Iowa State.
The acc is the same as it’s been
It’s lost no members since Maryland left
The B12 has lost Texas, Oklahoma , and Texas AM , and Colorado .
They return Colorado , add cincy (aac), byu (Indy) and the bottom of the pac in Arizona and asu
Jeez I forgot those two
Yeah they have really just become a consolidated AAC/MAC/MWC
Lol. Nothing gets WVU in Columbus and the rest of WVU fans going more than conference revenue share debates. Dude, the ACC and B12 are just about even on revenue right now. If we add 3 teams but don't pay them anything, the ACC will be making more. Will that matter? No. But you guys LOVE conference revenue shares.
And when the Big12 contracts comes up for renewal, WVU and the Mountain Pips will be out on the street.
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