Barnes: not necessarily opposed to alcohol sales

[rpost3]

I have no opinion whether way about if they should or not. I have Club seats, so I have the option to buy.

I do have the opinion it will have no affect on attendance... Which is based on common sense as nobody refrain from attending Pitt football games due to the lack of beer being sold. Nobody.

May be right, may not be. Pitt is clearly looking at that. If I had to guess, I'd say attendance wouldn't significantly be affected by alcohol sales alone.

But attendance can remain unaffected while profit increases.

Will expanded beer sales result in more money for Pitt Athletics? That's the question that matters. I don't have the answer but you've indignantly claimed for years it wouldn't.

 

[bwh05]

It may not make a difference in attendance but I see no reason why we don't try it and find out. If it ends up being a detriment then we can always stop doing it. Besides, it would change absolutely nothing for people sitting in the club so why would they even care?

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

So his list is worthless since it offers nothing to the conversation about beer sales' profitability or lack thereof. Thanks for clarifying.

His post did exactly what he wanted it to do. He presented some facts relative to the discussion. After reading this thread I can see that you don't care about facts, but I admit that I don't understand why you would assume that no one else does either.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

May be right, may not be. Pitt is clearly looking at that. If I had to guess, I'd say attendance wouldn't significantly be affected by alcohol sales alone.

But attendance can remain unaffected while profit increases.

Will expanded beer sales result in more money for Pitt Athletics? That's the question that matters. I don't have the answer but you've indignantly claimed for years it wouldn't.

So would higher ticket prices and higher concession prices.

There is no free lunch.

 

[rpost3]

His post did exactly what he wanted it to do. He presented some facts relative to the discussion. After reading this thread I can see that you don't care about facts, but I admit that I don't understand why you would assume that no one else does either.

Tell me what you learned from that list.
I see a bunch of mostly cash-strapped athletic departments resorting to beer sales as a new source of revenue since they don't get big crowds.

Jose implied Pitt shouldn't sell beer b/c the schools that do don't draw well. He completey ignored the whole point of beer sales - revenue.

Now I don't know how much Pitt would make or lose from these beer sales, but I can't help but laugh at those of you who seem to think you have it figured out. You know something the Chancellor doesn't?

 

[rpost3]

So would higher ticket prices and higher concession prices.

There is no free lunch.

So you're doubling down on your claim that exploring beer sales as a source of revenue is "dumb" (as you put it in the other thread).
Got it.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Tell me what you learned from that list.

What I learned is exactly which schools sell beer and (by omission) which schools don't. Which isn't surprising, since that's all the list was attempting to do. The funny thing is that I would guess that you learned the exact same thing. Even if you don't want to admit it.

Oh, and as far as the Chancellor goes, my guess is that he knows exactly the same things as you or I on this subject, which is to say not much at all. It's not like Pitt has already undertaken a study on the subject. It's not like the Chancellor came from somewhere where such a study may have been done (although the thought of it occurring at the Chancellor's former employer is kind of amusing). It's almost as if some of you people think that a reporter asking the guy who isn't even our AD yet a question and him giving an off the cuff, non-committal answer to that question means that this is something that is already under serious consideration. Here's a hint for you. It isn't. That doesn't mean that someday there can't or won't be such a discussion, or that such a study won't eventually take place. But it hasn't yet.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

So you're doubling down on your claim that exploring beer sales as a source of revenue is "dumb" (as you put it in the other thread).
Got it.

I'm doubling down on its dumb to think it will draw more attendance ( the primary driver of revenue).

Incremental concessions, well frankly.. Aren't a high impact revenue stream. If it were, it wouldn't be limited to a handful of programs.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

Here's some factual opinions on beer sales.

1) It is not the boogeyman.........people fearing beer sales is like the modern version of Reefer Madness in this debate. OH MY GOD, EVERYONE WILL BE DRUNK!! The funniest part is some of these complaints come from people who sit in club seats, where.....there is beer (and alcohol) sold.

2) It takes away excuses. Another excuse of why not to go into a game.

3) It is another revenue stream. How much of one, who knows.

Really don't see much of a down side.

 

[bwh05]

I agree with everything recruits said. This is a no brainier.

 

[bwh05]

I would also add that even if it doesn't increase attendance if it may increase revenue, and we should be happy with either one.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

What if has no positive or even negative revenue effects ?

Just saying , if this was a slam dunk it wouldn't be such a limited collection of schools.