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Beer sales

Well why doesn't Ohio State, Michigan, Texas, etc not sell beer? Don't they promote winning? I don't think selling beer is one in the same as promoting winning. A ton of colleges don't do it, and they win.

That said, I wouldn't mind Pitt doing it.
Texas is going to start selling beer at football games this season. They started selling at basketball, baseball & softball games in 2014.
 
Texas Tech, Georgia Tech, Virginia Tech, Clemson, TCU, Stanford, and many many others don't bring in over $100M, win, and don't sell beer.
Assuming there isn't some proven research it wouldn't be profitable ... they're foolish not to.

BUT, schools like those that have their own facilities may indeed have insurance, infrastructure, worker training, cleanup, supply etc. costs that might make it unprofitable, and/or sufficient attendance that would preclude a bump.

I think one of the prime advantages of Pitt at Heinz is that it has none of those costs... yet a need for niches that can bump attendance.

It's low hanging fruit there for the taking. But they just don't seem to want to bother. Or find it beneath them. Like most aspects of the program up to now.
It was a reference to geeman's post. Somehow he equates not selling beer to not trying to win.
Again, it's not a big deal, of itself. It's merely a symptom of the disease of program indifference. A very peripheral one for sure. I already conceded the gains would be modest. I'd rather they go all in with the factors that actually matter. But this is just another example.

But, by all means keep agreeing with continued half-assery to win the thread argument.
 
Texas is going to start selling beer at football games this season. They started selling at basketball, baseball & softball games in 2014.
oh well that is a relief, I was worried about how texas football was going to survive in these tough, economic times.. 131 million dollars in annual revenue just doesn't cut it anymore..
 
Nothing wrong with trying to continue to grow your revenue, even if you are at the top of the food chain. The crazier thing to me is that Texas apparently draws enough fans to a softball game to make it worth selling beer.
 
But, by all means keep agreeing with continued half-assery to win the thread argument.

I'm not agreeing with anything. I'm saying selling beer does not equate to winning like you state.

I just don't get the whole Donald Trump "if you do this, this will happen, but don't worry about my plan, it will just work, LISTEN TO ME!!!!!!" some take. It's not quite that simple.
 
What do you guys think about my claim of beer sales inside the stadium helping the game day atmosphere?? Am I reaching?
 
I think I remember someone posting here a while back that Pitt keeps its concession money at Heinz Field, or at least what's left after you pay the contract management company (which is still a good chunk of the sale given the enormous mark up over cost).

If that's the case, beer sales are truly incremental revenue. Are they as much as donations or club season tickets? No, but we're not selling enough of those now given our current set up. Club folks aren't going to move to the regular seats because of this. I don't think many people buy premium seats for access to booze.

Pghfan is right that you simply sell more concession to the folks in the regular seats by doing this. Any additional revenue or fans spending money in the stadium helps not only Pitt but the Pittsburgh economy as well.
"I don't think many people buy premium seats for access to booze". Really? And you know that how? Pitt needs to think long term, not short term. The problem is donations. Until the program improves enough to consistently attract more paying fans, they cannot afford to take the chance of losing any Club Seat ticket holders and their donations to please some people who want a beer during the game. Like I said, it may not be fair, but if you want booze, pony up and donate. It's not brain surgery.
 
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"I don't think many people buy premium seats for access to booze". Really? And you know that how? Pitt needs to think long term, not short term. The problem is donations. Until the program improves enough to consistently attract more paying fans, they cannot afford to take the chance of losing any Club Seat ticket holders and their donations to please some people who want a beer during the game. Like I said, it may not be fair, but if you want booze, pony up and donate. It's not brain surgery.

I have no way of knowing if booze is a primary factor in buying club seats. A large porition of that section is tied to corporate sponsorship which is going to stay in that area regardless. Do you believe there is a large amount of individual donors in club seats that only buy those seats because they have access to beer? I don't think you can prove that either, so we're both going on gut feeling.

Can't we work on improving donations AND look for other potential revenue streams at the same time (regardless of how small)? It's not an either/or proposition. Small things add up. I believe the risk in minimal. I guess I don't see why anyone would be adamantly against this. If Pitt determines it can improve their bottom line, then I'm on board. We're all speaking in hypotheticals anyway.
 
Club seats are sweet obviously cause they are prime seats but also because they have access to the club bar, restrooms, amenities, etc.. I don't think it's just access to beer.. TVs, getting out of the weather, a shot of jameson, taking a leak in a bathroom that doesn't require a 30 minute wait, etc.. It's a lot more than just access to $9 beers.. That's my take though, I didnt' take a poll or anything. I believe club seat donors will still have that feeling of separation and higher class from us regular folks who will be slugging back bud lights from plastic cups while we wait in long lines to urinate in troughs..Speaking of urinating in troughs, Heinz field needs to do something about those urinal troughs, the water is way too cold.... and deep.. Good night folks and please don't forget to tip your server..
 
I am against it, it is college, most all of the students are too young to drink legally. Where does it stop? Beer at high school games? how about little league?

See, that is the attitude and dilemma that faces Pitt fans. We want BIG College football, yet we think it is Allegheny vs Case Western. It is big money sporting event. It is time to bring beer. Why have another excuse/barrier to prevent people attending games. And yes, I think it is ridiculous that not having the opportunity to by a $10 Miller Lite draft would keep them away, it does some people. Plus it is revenue. Do it. Don't look back.
 
I strongly disagree the "reasons" for it it far outweigh it for one very important thing: Right now the school desperately needs donations. The Club Level seats drive donations. Hence the perk of alcohol as a selling point for those seats. Until the time that Club Level seating consistently sell out, the option of beer everywhere shouldn't be considered. If you really want to drink during games, pony up. Maybe not fair, but pretty simple. It's Selling 101.

But PG, club seats are more than about alcohol, it is about kibbutzing around, being "seen" and honestly people spend way too much time in "da club" than in their seats. Same at the Pete.

I don't think alcohol sales will affect the club seating. Here is a fallacy in that argument. The Steelers sell alcohol in all seats, the clubbies are sold out. The Pens too. The Pirates too. Club level still offers many more amenities and freedoms than regular seats do.
 
Americans are prudish, sell beer! I want to get drunker than I do already! I really enjoy being in foreign countries where there's no drinking age and people cuss and nobody cares! lol.
 
Americans are prudish, sell beer! I want to get drunker than I do already! I really enjoy being in foreign countries where there's no drinking age and people cuss and nobody cares! lol.
I got served a beer in Bermuda when I was 15.. I wasn't allowed to drive a scooter but I could drink 20 beers..
 
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