Biggest Change at PITT
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You mean the guy the students voted to name the rec center after? Nah...
Yeah, I bet that land is perfect for an on-campus stadium.
Here's the difference that I absolutely know: some people know what the hell they are talking about and others don't.
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Chancellor:
Vision & Selecting The Right People!
Coaches:
Winners That Want To Be At Pitt!
Change Attitudes!
Coaches Up Players!
Stays At Pitt!
Athletic Director:
University & Programs First Not Them:
Listen To Coaches!
Listen To Alumni & Fans!
Blends Pitt Traditions With Innovations!
No Ego Just Smarts!
Lesson Life Motto!
Stay Away From Negative Fans & Posters That Think They Are Smart And Too Dumb! To Know It!
The Cannot Do's Are Lazy Lame People!
Vision & Selecting The Right People!
Coaches:
Winners That Want To Be At Pitt!
Change Attitudes!
Coaches Up Players!
Stays At Pitt!
Athletic Director:
University & Programs First Not Them:
Listen To Coaches!
Listen To Alumni & Fans!
Blends Pitt Traditions With Innovations!
No Ego Just Smarts!
Lesson Life Motto!
Stay Away From Negative Fans & Posters That Think They Are Smart And Too Dumb! To Know It!
The Cannot Do's Are Lazy Lame People!
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The biggest difference is Coach Andrews and the fourth quarter program. The off season conditioning program was more intense than any in program history. It not only made the players stronger, but it also gave them the edge mentally. They used to hope they could hold a lead, now they know they can. That's why they party at the end of the 3rd quarter. They know that no one has worked harder than them and they will win the 4th.
Right, like leading an entire football conference out of catastrophe. You, and those who think like you, have squarely placed yourself in the above latter category. Just an astounding level of ignorance on the subject and frankly, the slavish adherence to an invented narrative attacking a still active university leader, when an individual as yourself, and others, should clearly recognize what they don't know before repeatedly spouting off in public, which unfortunately reflects on much more about such individuals.
On top of that, none of current leadership would have been able to be hired without the prior administration setting the stage to make their recruitment possible. Now the torch has been passed, so hopefully they can take it to the next level..which is what is expected of them because they have 35% more athletic revenue thanks to the prior administration's leadership. But this is a bit early to evaluate even though early returns look good.
And now I'll go back to do what people that do know what the hell they are talking about do when morons like yourself spout off: shake their head, laugh at, and/or ignore.
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Well said Paco.
I like PG as it relates to football....moreso than MN.
But to dismiss MN is foolish.
I like PG as it relates to football....moreso than MN.
But to dismiss MN is foolish.
I agree but I did not dismiss MN’s accomplishments at PITT. PG has taken it up a notch and there is a noticeable difference in my opinion.
I am tired of Nordy and Pederson, tired of reading their names on this board and seeing their faces.. Seriously, F these two and as a pitt fan, let's not even talk about them because they both make me sick to my stomach.
You really need to separate the two except for the last contract given to SP. MN did a good job elevating our academics and the entrance into the ACC and SP was/is a putz.
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Exactly! Thank Nordenberg for any academic-related achievements, but anything sports oriented...kiss ass.
You know for such an intelligent guy you allow yourself to get baited into the same argument on a daily basis?
Pretty predictable actually...
Agree. I think Pederson was even given a little too much credit for that. Still doesn't mask how bad of a second tenure it was for Smiley. Pitt was a mediocre program in a conference that was inevitably falling apart and another P5 conference invited them. The only thing Pitt could have done was to accept the invite. I think Pitt could have been the bottom feeder of the Big East for 5+ years and still been invited.
Today I learned that chancellors/presidents and athletic directors aren't responsible for conference realignment, it just magically happens!
You bozos probably think Bill Fralic sat down in Swofford's office and said, 'We're gonna bring back the script and get a new stadium dahn in Oakland, yinz invitin' us or not?'
So explain away rehiring Pedersen after he nearly destroyed the Nebraska FB program and alienated its entire fan base and Nordenberg's extending Pedersen's contract after egregious missteps... Do tell . And no one with a brain is buying that Pedersen was responsible for Pitt's admission to the ACC. No one denies Nordenberg's academic accomplishments, as for his oversight of athletics and FB in particular he was an unmitigated disaster.
Wow, some of you are ignorant.
Nordenberg and Pederson took a Pitt athletic department that had horrible facilities, horrible results, and were a laughing stock in the 90s and turned it completely around. They had the tough job of digging a crap department out from ruins and making them reputable. And they did a good job. Was every decision correct? No. I think the whole "Pittsburgh" movement was garbage and some of the latter coaching hires were questionable at best for FB, but they took programs that were in the gutter and made them respectable.
They were able to build or upgrade facilities for the majority of the athletic programs. And doing this without a giant base of major donors.
They were able to stabilize a conference that was falling apart in the early 2000s long enough to not fall by the wayside. And no, the ACC invite was not guaranteed if the above did not happen.
Now the new leadership is taking the strides the previous admin made, and will build on it. I love the early results and the dedication. They also have the luxury of having a ton more revenue being in the ACC than the previous admin had being in the Big East. But they are taking things in the right direction.
To completely write off anything the previous admin did is just moronic IMO.
Nordenberg and Pederson took a Pitt athletic department that had horrible facilities, horrible results, and were a laughing stock in the 90s and turned it completely around. They had the tough job of digging a crap department out from ruins and making them reputable. And they did a good job. Was every decision correct? No. I think the whole "Pittsburgh" movement was garbage and some of the latter coaching hires were questionable at best for FB, but they took programs that were in the gutter and made them respectable.
They were able to build or upgrade facilities for the majority of the athletic programs. And doing this without a giant base of major donors.
They were able to stabilize a conference that was falling apart in the early 2000s long enough to not fall by the wayside. And no, the ACC invite was not guaranteed if the above did not happen.
Now the new leadership is taking the strides the previous admin made, and will build on it. I love the early results and the dedication. They also have the luxury of having a ton more revenue being in the ACC than the previous admin had being in the Big East. But they are taking things in the right direction.
To completely write off anything the previous admin did is just moronic IMO.
Nordenberg did great things at Pitt while restoring Pitt Athletics back to winning, but he NIH Funding, Academics, and Fundraising Responsibilities too and if you ever met him, just a pure gentlemen doer and brought Gallagher to Pitt as well. He did have to deal Big East Contraction and Expansion and when he took over Pitt had less than 70 players on NCAA Scholarship and the NCAA allowed 85?
Pederson did a good job too and deserves credit, but he never had plans to stray at Pitt, his eyes was on his Alma Mater.
Just like when Nordenberg brought Wannstedt that had his eyes on Pitt too, and came to restore winning better than .540% Winning Percentage, so Nordenberg tried bringing a Pitt Guy back to Pitt and that deserves credit too.
Johnny Majors came to Pitt to win biggger but his eyes were on UTenn and after he did not pan out there, he came back and ended up at .500% Winning Percentage with regrets he should have never left Pitt in the first place.
Pederson ended the same way, the good things he did to rebuild Pitt Athletics were discounted upon his return with his egomaniac mismanagement that left Pitt Mediocre on his second tenure and had to go for his mediocre management that did not deserve $5 Million Buyout Extension in Nordenberg's last months last edict? Pederson could not maintain a Top 25 Program anywhere nor built one at Pitt and that was clear on his return and tenure at NU!
When I refer to Pederson's Poison it is due to his inability to change, adapt and work towards admitting he made some mistakes and should have embraced Wannstedt instead of lecturing him as he did most coaches. This is why many Very Good Coaches would not consider Pitt!
Pederson's Poison also included his second tenure and his ego mismanagement by consultants to keep changing Pitt Brands and ignoring Traditions and Alumni Contributors simply hated him at Pitt and NU! Losing Wannstedt, Haywood, Graham, and Chryst along with all those Recruiting classes were a sign of a very Athletic Director not Bad Fans! College football programs like NFL Teams can't be built by changing coaches every 2 to 3 years? Coaching Mediocrity does not attract Fans either, Winning by way of Great Coaching does that sooner or later with multiple 10+ Wins Seasons! Not Multiple $5 Million Athletic Directors Buyouts with Pitt Money?
Pitt is slowly transfusing the Pederson Poison from the Football Program by first getting Anti-Toxic Pederson Pitt Script inoculation that he was forced to take and admit was his mistake before he left. Only the dumbest Pitt Fans did not see the importance of that Pitt script return and some dumber posters on the Lair but they live South of Oakland ;>(
!!! Even Kook & Baloney quizzed and roasted Pederson on his interview on why it took so long for him to accept it is coming back and why did he removed it anyway. After Pederson hung up they really made fun of him!
As well as, Gallagher appointing far better people to choose a New Football Coach in weeks too, before even wanting to fill a Secondary Athletic Director POSITION as a non-priority. Again a necessary new transfusion of blood and judgment that got old and stale under Pederson Poison that became bad and now to be forgotten and still being removed?
Selecting the Right People to Change Attitudes is the start of removing Old Bacteria that was causing Constant Infections that causes many relapses until one changes Doctors Responsible for Bad Advice & Worst Treatments?
Gallagher came in and made corrections in 4 months, Narduzzi was hired in a month too, and had a Staff in Weeks, and it took Months to find the Right Athletic Director for Pitt that listens to Coaches, Alumni & Fans!
Nordenberg made Pitt better with Pederson and Gallagher is doing too with Narduzzi & Barnes! I am happy where Pitt has been, and winning became a tad over mediocre and fan support got stale, but the Road Back to 10 Win Seasons is in sight!
I can credit both, and forgetting the coaching musical chairs is over, because Narduzzi has had his eyes on Pitt and not a Pitt-Stop to move on later, in my opinion!
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