Boston College investing $200 million in athletics facilities

[Sean Miller Fan]

Classic blue blood program that is just rolling in dough.

BC is dropping 200 large on some olympic sports fields, an indoor football practice facility and and a student rec center and some people honestly believe Pitt cant find double that for a stadium if it really wanted to.

 

[TIGER-PAUL]

http://www.bc.edu/bc-web/bcnews/ath...ews/athletics-facilities-plans-announced.html

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Classic blue blood program that is just rolling in dough.

BC is dropping 200 large on some olympic sports fields, an indoor football practice facility and and a student rec center and some people honestly believe Pitt cant find double that for a stadium if it really wanted to.

Pitt already built those.
And the $200mil is just for the intramural facility.
Think that through.

 

[Z #2]

Pitt already built those.
And the $200mil is just for the intramural facility.
Think that through.

Sorry, but you are wrong again. And it is getting old how negative you are about Pitt Athletics growing. I don't know if you are a nitter or just a basketball only zealot. Either way, you've limited yourself again with the lack of truth. Think bigger. I hope you can. All the very best.

 

[ThePanthers]

Classic blue blood program that is just rolling in dough.

BC is dropping 200 large on some olympic sports fields, an indoor football practice facility and and a student rec center and some people honestly believe Pitt cant find double that for a stadium if it really wanted to.

Uh, Pitt already dropped a lot of dough on new Softball, Baseball and Soccer complex, the Peterson Events center, which includes student rec center, upgrades to their other athletic facilities, and have worked with UPMC to have a whole practice complex.

So everytime someone each individual school upgrades their facilities, Pitt has to do the same, EVERY SINGLE TIME, or at least that is what it seems.

 

[Las Panteras]

Classic blue blood program that is just rolling in dough.

BC is dropping 200 large on some olympic sports fields, an indoor football practice facility and and a student rec center and some people honestly believe Pitt cant find double that for a stadium if it really wanted to.

Classic blue blood??

In what??

If you said ice hockey.....then sure....

But after reading the article, they are beginning something that Pitt completed a few years ago.

Please try to keep up.

 

[Delpanther]

Sorry, but you are wrong again. And it is getting old how negative you are about Pitt Athletics growing. I don't know if you are a nitter or just a basketball only zealot. Either way, you've limited yourself again with the lack of truth. Think bigger. I hope you can. All the very best.

Keep up the good fight, Z. When they make the announcement about the new on-campus stadium, these knuckleheads are going to have a lot of explaining to do!

 

[ThePanthers]

Plus most of that is being done via private donations.

 

[Swervin27]

Classic blue blood??

In what??

If you said ice hockey.....then sure....

But after reading the article, they are beginning something that Pitt completed a few years ago.

Please try to keep up.

he forgot the sarcasm color..

 

[NTOP]

Keep up the good fight, Z. When they make the announcement about the new on-campus stadium, these knuckleheads are going to have a lot of explaining to do!

Our grandkids will have grandkids before that happens,

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Plus most of that is being done via private donations.

That's my point. BC is going to raise $200 million for facilities that are somewhat irrelevant. "Hey, Mr. Millionaire, can you donate a million for the new BC baseball stadium?"

So, if poor little BC can raise $200 million for facilities that people/donors don't get fired up about (I doubt BC message boarders go back and forth in heated debates over the necessity of an on-campus softball stadium). This is the same program who sent out DVDs to random people a few years ago as a sales pitch to win them as fans.....to increase their fanbase, which may be the smallest in the ACC.

So, like I said if BC can raise 200 for olympic sports and IM stuff, I cant even imagine what Pitt can raise for an on-campus stadium. Hint: a lot more than what BC can do.

 

[HailtoPitt]

Everyone knows that land in Boston is super cheap. That's how they can do it.

 

[Delpanther]

Our grandkids will have grandkids before that happens,

You very well may be right on that. In my heart of hearts I just think it's in Pitt's best long term interests to have its own stadium so I refuse to give up the dream.....however remote the chances. That's why I hate to see folks giving Z such a difficult time.

 

[Z #2]

You very well may be right on that. In my heart of hearts I just think it's in Pitt's best long term interests to have its own stadium so I refuse to give up the dream.....however remote the chances. That's why I hate to see folks giving Z such a difficult time.

With thanks Del, but these people are like a pimple on a flies rear end to me. In the negative simply exposes them. 10s of thousands of posts and nothing important to say.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Keep up the good fight, Z. When they make the announcement about the new on-campus stadium, these knuckleheads are going to have a lot of explaining to do!

No..we'll have nothing to explain.

Likewise, you and he will have no credit to take.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Everyone knows that land in Boston is super cheap. That's how they can do it.

Considering it's $200mil for an INTRAMURAL sports facility..I think that's relevant.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Sorry, but you are wrong again. And it is getting old how negative you are about Pitt Athletics growing. I don't know if you are a nitter or just a basketball only zealot. Either way, you've limited yourself again with the lack of truth. Think bigger. I hope you can. All the very best.

We do have indoor football practice facilities.
And Indoor intramurals at the Cost Center.
Plus a baseball field, etc.

I'm not negative at all... I'm pointing out that BC is playing BIG TIME CATCH UP, to plenty..including Pitt. Did you read the link..the $200mil is for intramural sports facility.

The indoor football practice facility is a separate proposal they have YET TO MAKE.

 

[ThePanthers]

That's my point. BC is going to raise $200 million for facilities that are somewhat irrelevant. "Hey, Mr. Millionaire, can you donate a million for the new BC baseball stadium?"

So, if poor little BC can raise $200 million for facilities that people/donors don't get fired up about (I doubt BC message boarders go back and forth in heated debates over the necessity of an on-campus softball stadium). This is the same program who sent out DVDs to random people a few years ago as a sales pitch to win them as fans.....to increase their fanbase, which may be the smallest in the ACC.

So, like I said if BC can raise 200 for olympic sports and IM stuff, I cant even imagine what Pitt can raise for an on-campus stadium. Hint: a lot more than what BC can do.

Hint: You do realize Pitt did the same thing building those same facilities, and did it with some major private donors hence the name "Peterson" on the front of each complex.

And no, it does not mean Pitt can raise the same for a stadium, because it most likely is not a high priority to the major donors. Plus they are already building these facilities on existing land they own.

Not everything is apples to apples.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Classic blue blood program that is just rolling in dough.

BC is dropping 200 large on some olympic sports fields, an indoor football practice facility and and a student rec center and some people honestly believe Pitt cant find double that for a stadium if it really wanted to.

Boston College is rolling in dough.

Well the Tuition at BC is $46,500 (30 credits) and Room and Board is $14,805 per year.

If they have so much money, maybe they should direct some toward the students so they don't have to pay $61,305 per year for school.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Did you read the link..the $200mil is for intramural sports facility.

The indoor football practice facility is a separate proposal they have YET TO MAKE.

Did YOU read it?

BC has a student rec center. They are tearing it down to build a new one (ahhhhh, the luxury). Do you honestly think its going to cost 200 million to build it? The 200 million is the total investment of all components of the plan which include a football indoor facilitu and olympic stadiums, some of which they still need city approval but it is a forgone conclusion since they own the land.

200 million is getting them
- rec center
- athletics field house
- indooor football facility
- baseball stadium
- soccer stadium

 

[ThePanthers]

Did YOU read it?

BC has a student rec center. They are tearing it down to build a new one (ahhhhh, the luxury). Do you honestly think its going to cost 200 million to build it? The 200 million is the total investment of all components of the plan which include a football indoor facilitu and olympic stadiums, some of which they still need city approval but it is a forgone conclusion since they own the land.

200 million is getting them
- rec center
- athletics field house
- indooor football facility
- baseball stadium
- soccer stadium

Which is less than what Pitt spent on the Peterson Sports Complex, Peterson Events Center and whatever they paid for the UPMC sports complex in today's dollars.

Plus Pitt is spending on upgrades for all of those facilities.

BC is playing catch up.

 

[tps48]

Classic blue blood program that is just rolling in dough.

BC is dropping 200 large on some olympic sports fields, an indoor football practice facility and and a student rec center and some people honestly believe Pitt cant find double that for a stadium if it really wanted to.

If so, then it doesn't want too.

Classic blue blood program that is just rolling in dough.

BC is dropping 200 large on some olympic sports fields, an indoor football practice facility and and a student rec center and some people honestly believe Pitt cant find double that for a stadium if it really wanted to.

Why spend it if you already play in a relatively new stadium with better access to the majority of fans that Oakland? I'd rather see money spent on facilities that need it, like a home for the track and tennis teams. While there are plenty of unsold seats to Pitt football teams, that's the fans fault, not Pitt's. Pitt draws better at Heinz that it did in Oakland. If you built in a stadium on Oakland, attendance would drop.

 

[burgerczar]

Getting the money for an on campus stadium is not an issue. It can be done. The question is; Will it make difference in attendance? Will it create a better game day atmosphere? Will it attract better recruits? Those are the issues. Because if the stadium does nothing to address those questions, then why do it? It will be a colossal waste of money.

 

[Swervin27]

not a big fan of the "arms race" that is going on with college athletics, competing with facility upgrades but with that said, it's pretty crazy that a P5 program does not have an indoor practice facility.. This is pretty much a "must have" especially in the north east.. It reminds me of a D1 basketball program I know of (Not local) that literally does not have a practice gym. I know someone very close to the situation and there are daily conflicts with the HC and this person I know due to scheduling conflicts (the coach wants to practice and the person I know has to schedule events to make money).

 

[giveitarest]

Boston College is rolling in dough.

Well the Tuition at BC is $46,500 (30 credits) and Room and Board is $14,805 per year.

If they have so much money, maybe they should direct some toward the students so they don't have to pay $61,305 per year for school.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

So should Pitt!!!

 

[ThePanthers]

Like others have said, if we get some huge gift, I'd rather spend it on building the Track facility, endowing scholarships, things like that.

It's not like the Pitt FB team is playing in a cement bowl like 3 Rivers, or some rundown old soccer field or something.

Would I like an on campus stadium? Absolutely.

Is it a priority? IMO, no, not at all.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

So should Pitt!!!

They do when compared to Boston College.

Pitt tuition $18,192 and Room and Board $10,900 per year.

All with State funding for PA Universities dropping every year.

Why spend $400 million for a stadium (other thread) which will be used for 7 home games or 28 hours per year when your trying to limit tuition increases.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[burgerczar]

They do when compared to Boston College.

Pitt tuition $18,192 and Room and Board $10,900 per year.

All with State funding for PA Universities dropping every year.

Why spend $400 million for a stadium (other thread) which will be used for 7 home games or 28 hours per year when your trying to limit tuition increases.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

That's exactly the way the current administration sees this issue. They are very well aware of the desire to have an on campus stadium. But they are not willing to pull the trigger unless it affects the program in an adverse way. So far there is no evidence of that happening...

 

[VJPITT]

Boston College is rolling in dough.

Well the Tuition at BC is $46,500 (30 credits) and Room and Board is $14,805 per year.

If they have so much money, maybe they should direct some toward the students so they don't have to pay $61,305 per year for school.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

The poor man's Notre Dame?

 

[Panthergrowl13]

That's exactly the way the current administration sees this issue. They are very well aware of the desire to have an on campus stadium. But they are not willing to pull the trigger unless it affects the program in an adverse way. So far there is no evidence of that happening...

The only way this should happen is when the City,County and State come in with significant $$$$$ to make it happen.

Think about.

The Steelers did not entirely fund the construction of Heinz Field.
The Pirates did not entirely fund the construction of PNC Park.
The Penquins did not entirely fund the construction of Consol Energy.

All Private Business organizations.

If the City,County and State want to pony up 70% of the money required for land development and construction costs, then I would be more interested in the idea.

The University of Pittsburgh is a Pennsylvania State related school and yet our previous Gov. significantly decreased/froze state funding each and every year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[Z #2]

No..we'll have nothing to explain.

Likewise, you and he will have no credit to take.

No credit or explanation from anyone. Only a Hail to Pitt for moving into the Big Time and the Best of Times! An athletic facilities footprint needs to be on the Hill and the best use for already Pitt owned land.

 

[NTOP]

The only way this should happen is when the City,County and State come in with significant $$$$$ to make it happen.

Think about.

The Steelers did not entirely fund the construction of Heinz Field.
The Pirates did not entirely fund the construction of PNC Park.
The Penquins did not entirely fund the construction of Consol Energy.

All Private Business organizations.

If the City,County and State want to pony up 70% of the money required for land development and construction costs, then I would be more interested in the idea.

The University of Pittsburgh is a Pennsylvania State related school and yet our previous Gov. significantly decreased/froze state funding each and every year.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

The legislature decides spending. Corbett didn't reduce education spending on the whole. Rendell gave Fed $$$ to his union cronies that was supposed to be used for infrastructure.
Pitt's $$ from the state have been going down for years....psu, Temple & Lincoln, too. That's one reason for tuition being so high for public schools.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

The legislature decides spending. Corbett didn't reduce education spending on the whole. Rendell gave Fed $$$ to his union cronies that was supposed to be used for infrastructure.
Pitt's $$ from the state have been going down for years....psu, Temple & Lincoln, too. That's one reason for tuition being so high for public schools.

Corbet set the budget and the Legislature had to approve. That is how it is done.

Corbett significantly reduced the spending for PA Universities.

The Legislature tried to raise the state spending somewhat but the damage was done.

Why do you think the Pa state related Universities are higher than most other states.

I'll tell you why because Pennsylvania does not fund it state schools compared to almost all other states.

Wolf set the budget and the Legislature will not approve his budget (compromise required). That is how it is done.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[eyebugs]

Corbet set the budget and the Legislature had to approve. That is how it is done.

Corbett significantly reduced the spending for PA Universities.

The Legislature tried to raise the state spending somewhat but the damage was done.

Why do you think the Pa state related Universities are higher than most other states.

I'll tell you why because Pennsylvania does not fund it state schools compared to almost all other states.

Wolf set the budget and the Legislature will not approve his budget (compromise required). That is how it is done.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Agree but the universities shouldn't be entirely exonerated either... They could control spending much more than they currently do.. It is a disgrace that the commonwealth doesn't make state higher education affordable to qualified state students.

 

[NTOP]

Corbet set the budget and the Legislature had to approve. That is how it is done.

Corbett significantly reduced the spending for PA Universities.

The Legislature tried to raise the state spending somewhat but the damage was done.

Why do you think the Pa state related Universities are higher than most other states.

I'll tell you why because Pennsylvania does not fund it state schools compared to almost all other states.

Wolf set the budget and the Legislature will not approve his budget (compromise required). That is how it is done.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

No it isn't. The legislature SENT Wolf a budget, he used the line item veto. Would he veto stuff in HIS budget. Rendell cut aid to Pitt, too. Corbett returned the payouts to pre-stimulus levels, and his last budget had the highest education expenditures, ever. The state-related schools aren't the only recipients.
Maybe if Pitt tried to control its growth a bit, the coat would go down.
PA's been reneging on its compact with the state-related schools for a long time. Supposed to pay half of Pitt's costs......NEVER did so.
Wolf is a union flunky.

 

[NTOP]

Corbet set the budget and the Legislature had to approve. That is how it is done.

Corbett significantly reduced the spending for PA Universities.

The Legislature tried to raise the state spending somewhat but the damage was done.

Why do you think the Pa state related Universities are higher than most other states.

I'll tell you why because Pennsylvania does not fund it state schools compared to almost all other states.

Wolf set the budget and the Legislature will not approve his budget (compromise required). That is how it is done.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Did Wolf line-item veto HIS budget?? Nope, he did that to the legislatures budget. The governor can request whatever he wants, but the legislature delivers the budget. Wolf is a grandstander. Useless.

 

[Panthergrowl13]

Did Wolf line-item veto HIS budget?? Nope, he did that to the legislatures budget. The governor can request whatever he wants, but the legislature delivers the budget. Wolf is a grandstander. Useless.

Corbet was a one term Gov.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

 

[pitt-girl]

Like others have said, if we get some huge gift, I'd rather spend it on building the Track facility, endowing scholarships, things like that.

It's not like the Pitt FB team is playing in a cement bowl like 3 Rivers, or some rundown old soccer field or something.

Would I like an on campus stadium? Absolutely.

Is it a priority? IMO, no, not at all.

Ding, ding - we have a winner!

 

[pitt-girl]

Agree but the universities shouldn't be entirely exonerated either... They could control spending much more than they currently do.. It is a disgrace that the commonwealth doesn't make state higher education affordable to qualified state students.

Ummmmm......but they do. There are 14 schools currently in Pennsylvania that are state owned. Pitt and Penn State are NOT on that list as they are state-related vs. state-owned. Tuition is much less at Edinboro, Clarion, etc. So in effect, there are choices in this Commonwealth for a cheaper education. If you look towards the bottom of this link you will see tuition is around $7K at these schools.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pennsylvania_State_System_of_Higher_Education

I am not excusing the high cost of tuition at Penn State or Pitt but the distinction must be made.

 

[NTOP]

Corbet was a one term Gov.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!

Liars win elections.