Brian Kelly attacks his own coach.
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Typical. Wonder if this is how he reacted when the kid filming practices asked to come down during the storm? Can't stand Kelly.
He's a POS bully who picks on those he holds power over. I can only hope someone whoops his a$$ at some point.
It will have some National Implications, you don't grab anyone anymore, the days of bobby Knight are far over, and Kelly touched and pushed back on one of his coaches and had to be pulled off by an Senior Assistant Coach.
ND had trouble with his Sideline manners the years he took over and was warned ND does not consider that correct behavior.
Kelly has a big problem now and just nip it in the bud and apologize as soon as possible and admit he was wrong and end it quick. Or it will linger and ND eventually will turn on him.
ND had trouble with his Sideline manners the years he took over and was warned ND does not consider that correct behavior.
Kelly has a big problem now and just nip it in the bud and apologize as soon as possible and admit he was wrong and end it quick. Or it will linger and ND eventually will turn on him.
They were both wrong. Kelly is obviously wrong and an obvious egomaniac. There is no reason to ever do that to an assistant coach. However, assistant coaches (and support staff) need to know their place. That means they need to keep their mouths shut when it comes to officials. Let the head coach take care of the lobbying.
David Grimes, an ND S&C coach, was about to get a fifteen yard penalty for yelling at a ref about a call.
I don't blame Kelly, Grimes was out of line.
I don't blame Kelly, Grimes was out of line.
To me I agree in part with Dr.VY and you, but that won't be the issue, it will be Kelly losing it, and grabbing and pushing him and had to be held back. The Assistant can do much to resolve and dissolve this issue, by saying hew as wrong, but one still can't lay hands on another, especially the one in authority? This day is over and it could linger and be a distraction all week for ND & Kelly! Kelly was warned about his actions before and that is what ND will notice!
Kelly absolutely had cause to address the coach, but no way shape or form to go after him physically. Not good for any program at this level, but as noted, a real issue for ND.
He pushed him away from the ref.
You guys are nuts if you take issue with that.
Liberal interpretation of what occurred, and even at that not the appropriate way to address it, for the head coach of a D1 program, specifically Notre Dame.
Yep, compared with killing a kid, this was Child's Play. If he got a way with manslaughter, pushing a coach won't move the needle. He wins, that trumps everything in college football!
The more appropriate way to keep his assistants from yelling at a ref mid game is what? A cease and desist request?
Moving the douche away from the ref... Who he isn't supposed to be interacting with at all... Needs pretty immediate attention, and my money is on the coach never doing it again .
The head coach shouldn't have to micromanage his staff to act right during a game.
Again; "moving the douche away from the ref" is a liberal interpretation of what he did, and also kind of ironic referring to the other coach as a douche given that it highlights the irresponsibility of acting like a douche to someone being a douche.
Despite your emotional and hyperbolic responses, the response of mine you replied to included the statement that Kelly has absolutely had reason to intercede.
How he did it was, like your responses, an emotional over reaction.
Poor role modeling for the young men he is supposedly mentoring and not the kind of emotional control a leader needs to have during moments of competition.
A decision Kelly made cost a kid his life. Cant believe Kelly made it out if that unscathed. His decision to have that kid film practice in a tornado or whatever is almost as bad as the PSU boy rape coverup.
Kelly is a purple vulgar man... I'll have plenty Saturday.
Catholic university and a devil cussing coach...
My response isnt emotional at all.
And push him away from the ref is exactly what happened.
He didn't "attack" him as suggested.
This is nothing .
And push him away from the ref is exactly what happened.
He didn't "attack" him as suggested.
This is nothing .
That is the issue. If he wanted to just push him back because he was going to be flagged as Kelly suggested, then there is a much simpler way of doing so. Even screaming at him is not crossing the line if that's the case. He clearly gripped him up though and there is absolutely no need for that ever.
Pushing the assistant back quickly to avoid the penalty is fine, and isn't the issue. For me, its what happened at the end that is disturbing, and is completely consistent with what I've seen from Kelly over the years.
Once he'd pushed him back, with the other assistant trying to pull them apart, he lifted the assistant's jacket, and jutted his chin out at him with that really aggressive, nasty way of speaking, which I've seen him do repeatedly to his players as they come off the field after a mistake. It has an intense "I want to f'ing kill you, you POS!" look to it.
I don't care what ND does to him (I know they don't like his behavior). But what does Hamlin think when he sees this stuff? Or other recruits for that matter. He continues to recruit well, but at some point, you'd have to think that at least a few dad's would have to be saying to their kids that they don't them playing for this guy.
Once he'd pushed him back, with the other assistant trying to pull them apart, he lifted the assistant's jacket, and jutted his chin out at him with that really aggressive, nasty way of speaking, which I've seen him do repeatedly to his players as they come off the field after a mistake. It has an intense "I want to f'ing kill you, you POS!" look to it.
I don't care what ND does to him (I know they don't like his behavior). But what does Hamlin think when he sees this stuff? Or other recruits for that matter. He continues to recruit well, but at some point, you'd have to think that at least a few dad's would have to be saying to their kids that they don't them playing for this guy.
there is a ton of people on this board that is soft. same people that wants to hand out trophies to everybody.
the s&c coach has zero, let me repeat, zero business arguing with refs.
the s&c coach has zero, let me repeat, zero business arguing with refs.
Agree in part, but Kelly can say that, yell that and do it without grabbing, pushing and the end of another Assistant to hold him back and calm him down.....the Assistant that stopped Kelly did it by hugging him and telling him to stop, and Kelly did stop, and that proves Kelly lost it and was wrong even if he was right, there is no need to grab and push anytime, yelling and talking is all that needed to happen.
If you think otherwise there was need for that Assistant to stop Kelly either? Let me repeat, zero business!
He didn't even get fired for making a kid record practice at high elevations during a storm that resulted in his death. Agree there is no place for that, but they are most definitely not firing him for that. Unfortunate, but not happening.
He grabbed his shirt, he didn't attack or strike the guy. Again, the S&C coach has no business at the the sideline yelling at the ref. This is football, they are not priests or Boy Scout leaders. He is not the first coach where things got heated with another coach. Just like when a player and a coach or assistant coach get heated. It happens, this is not the first time and will not be the last time.
He grabbed both coaches who were both jawing at the ref.
Non story.
The head coach did nothing wrong.
Souf, Amazing as this might be, I agree with you and am making the same argument on the F& board.
Tuberville did something similar his last season at TT. Grabbed a young coach and ripped his headset off pretty violently. Lied about it afterwards.
I don't care if it's football, you can't get physical like that with co-workers or subordinates. What kind of work environment is that? What does he do when millions of people aren't watching?
He could have separated him from the ref in a different manner. He was uncontrolled and enraged.
I wouldn't let my son play for Kelly (never said that before about a coach). He has no restraint. I don't care if a coach drinks or chases women, or has other vices, but I'm not sending my son to a mean spirited bully who can't hold himself back.
I don't care if it's football, you can't get physical like that with co-workers or subordinates. What kind of work environment is that? What does he do when millions of people aren't watching?
He could have separated him from the ref in a different manner. He was uncontrolled and enraged.
I wouldn't let my son play for Kelly (never said that before about a coach). He has no restraint. I don't care if a coach drinks or chases women, or has other vices, but I'm not sending my son to a mean spirited bully who can't hold himself back.
And once the coach was away from the ref, Kelly didn't let go until another coach separate him. He wasn't in control, that's obvious.
Not the video i saw.
They were both yelling , Kelly grabs both to prevent a stupid penalty in a close game.
His left arm pulls the white coach away, right hand on the black coach. Watch again. You're wrong
I agree that he didn't do anything wrong in pulling an assistant out of the way. Its the way he did it that showed, yet again, what a complete as*hole he is. I wouldn't want my son to play for him.
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