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Browns Getting a Dome

Oct 25, 2021
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I'm not at all a fan of watching football played indoors, but I suspect we'll see more of this stuff as stadiums are tailored toward a new age of fans who don't want to sit in the cold when they cold watch a game in HD on a 72-inch TV. Likely won't be long until there is a phone charger in every seat and who knows what else? Perhaps there may also be some Super Bowl hosting aspirations factoring into the decision, but I'm not sure. Other events, though, I would imagine could also be hosted.

Looks like this will be in Brook Park, OH - about 20 minutes SW of Cleveland.
 
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I'm not at all a fan of watching football played indoors, but I suspect we'll see more of this stuff as stadiums are tailored toward a new age of fans who don't want to sit in the cold when they cold watch a game in HD on a 72-inch TV. Likely won't be long until there is a phone charger in every seat and who knows what else? Perhaps there may also be some Super Bowl hosting aspirations factoring into the decision, but I'm not sure. Other events, though, I would imagine could also be hosted.

Looks like this will be in Brook Park, OH - about 20 minutes SW of Cleveland.
Good move putting a cover over that mess!
 
I don't think they have ever had a playoff to game at the current stadium. Ownership is bad.

But what does a new stadium actually do besides cost the tax payers more money due roughly the same amount of fans?
 
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I'm not at all a fan of watching football played indoors, but I suspect we'll see more of this stuff as stadiums are tailored toward a new age of fans who don't want to sit in the cold when they cold watch a game in HD on a 72-inch TV. Likely won't be long until there is a phone charger in every seat and who knows what else? Perhaps there may also be some Super Bowl hosting aspirations factoring into the decision, but I'm not sure. Other events, though, I would imagine could also be hosted.

Looks like this will be in Brook Park, OH - about 20 minutes SW of Cleveland.
I often wondered how Baker Mayfield lived in a house without a roof…especially in Cleveland.
 
Cleveland is the only NFL city to never appear in or host a Super Bowl. The dome will change that as no doubt they'll host one much to the chagrin of Art Rooney, Jr.
 
I'm not at all a fan of watching football played indoors, but I suspect we'll see more of this stuff as stadiums are tailored toward a new age of fans who don't want to sit in the cold when they cold watch a game in HD on a 72-inch TV. Likely won't be long until there is a phone charger in every seat and who knows what else? Perhaps there may also be some Super Bowl hosting aspirations factoring into the decision, but I'm not sure. Other events, though, I would imagine could also be hosted.

Looks like this will be in Brook Park, OH - about 20 minutes SW of Cleveland.


It will be interesting to see if they can actually get some suckers, er, I mean some local government, to kick in the more than a billion dollars they are looking for in subsidies for the place.

Because cities giving these owners lots of money to build a stadium for the owners is generally insane, but asking for half of a $2.4 billion project is at a whole different level.
 
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But what does a new stadium actually do besides cost the tax payers more money due roughly the same amount of fans?
Cost the season ticket and suite holders more money. It looks like they want to build this as a full development around the stadium as well. They may get a few token early events early on, but unless its a destination city, Super Bowls, Wrestlemanias, and Final Fours won't ever be making return trips.

I agree it'll feel wrong watching Cleveland play indoors and if you're a fan traveling from out-of-town, visiting Applebee's in the suburbs before the game is lame compared to the experience you get being in downtown on gameday. As far as the benefits, I know a lot of people talk cold and rain when it comes to domes, but for me it's the brutally hot weather in September and sitting in the sun. The a/c would be nice...
 
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Super Bowl - tough sell with hotel rooms
Final Four - maybe one token Final Four
CFP NC - zero chance

Indy got a CFP. Pgh would get one. Cleveland will 100% get a CFP. Also, are hotel rooms even an issue anymore with AirBNB? We can all rent our houses for the Pgh Super Bowl and get rich. And the cobbler has that garage to rent out.
 
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Likely won't be long until there is a phone charger in every seat and who knows what else?
With digital tickets becoming mandatory there probably should be a few charging stations outside of most stadiums for anyone that realizes their phone battery is dead right when they get to the gate.
 
Obviously the elephant here is how long until we are expected to shell out tax dollars for the "Pittsburgh Super Dome"?

Acrisure is right in that generation of stadiums that is starting to get replaced. The stadium is basically a dump by NFL standards. They really should build a new one. Cleveland, Nashville, Atlanta (2), St. Louis, Chicago, etc. Then you have other ones like Charlotte, which is essentially being rebuilt for $800 million.
 
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Acrisure is right in that generation of stadiums that is starting to get replaced. The stadium is basically a dump by NFL standards. They really should build a new one. Cleveland, Nashville, Atlanta (2), St. Louis, Chicago, etc. Then you have other ones like Charlotte, which is essentially being rebuilt for $800 million.
I don't disagree, I never really cared for it even when it was first opened. Now, it still has all the same issues it had then on top of being rundown and outdated.
 
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LOL!!!!

Penn State is spending $700 million on updating Beaver Stadium. Only will be used 7 times per year.

Pitt should spend a minimal amount of money to Tarp Acrisure Stadium down to 50,000 fans for Pitt home games.

Only has to be done 7 times per year.

I like Acrisure Club Seating for Pitt Games.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Super Bowl - tough sell with hotel rooms
Final Four - maybe one token Final Four
CFP NC - zero chance
Super Bowl - tough sell with hotel rooms.. Rumor has it they have them. Can't see how Cleveland is any different than Detroit in that regard.
 
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I'm not at all a fan of watching football played indoors, but I suspect we'll see more of this stuff as stadiums are tailored toward a new age of fans who don't want to sit in the cold when they cold watch a game in HD on a 72-inch TV. Likely won't be long until there is a phone charger in every seat and who knows what else? Perhaps there may also be some Super Bowl hosting aspirations factoring into the decision, but I'm not sure. Other events, though, I would imagine could also be hosted.

Looks like this will be in Brook Park, OH - about 20 minutes SW of Cleveland.
I just drove past the site yesterday. At least I am assuming it is the old Ford plant by the airport.
 
stadiums are tailored toward a new age of fans who don't want to sit in the cold when they cold watch a game
That's me. I don't enjoy it anymore but I'm just really not in a good place in the cold anymore. Really dreading having to go to the football game this evening and it's going to be in the 50's.

To be honest, they ran all of the "little guys" out when they built the "new" stadiums thirty years ago. Before that, when you went to Cleveland or Pittsburgh or Baltimore, the stands were filled with working stiffs. The cars in the parking lots were rusty Chevy Nova's and AMC Hornets. Trust me when I say that it wasn't your average lawyer or banker type dressing up in dog costumes to sit on freezing cold bleachers in Cleveland or run around dressed up as transvestite pigs in DC. They pretty much priced those people out of the "new" stadiums and it was very noticeable. I remember going to Camden Yards the second season it was open for an exhibition game between the Pirates and Orioles and getting annoyed that people were acting like it was a cocktail party and just walking around talking about how much they paid to get in on Cisco. The round about point is that fans have an even higher expectation for game day, now, so it doesn't surprise me at all that domes with higher class accommodations are all the rage.
 
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Super Bowl - tough sell with hotel rooms.. Rumor has it they have them. Can't see how Cleveland is any different than Detroit in that regard.
Detroit was allowed to include hotel rooms in Toledo, Flint and maybe Windsor, Ontario in their count, basically any kind hotel in a 70 mile radius, Cleveland would most likely include Akron, Canton and the hotels around Cedar Point.
 
Detroit was allowed to include hotel rooms in Toledo, Flint and maybe Windsor, Ontario in their count, basically any kind hotel in a 70 mile radius, Cleveland would most likely include Akron, Canton and the hotels around Cedar Point.
Yeah, there aren't a ton of good hotel options in any one area, out there. I really don't know that they're thinking about Super Bowls or any of that other stuff with any seriousness but I think you have to say things like that to generate investor enthusiasm.
 
Pittsburgh should build a retractable dome stadium. Its worth it to host a Super Bowl, Final Four, and CFP NC.
Here is a problem for all of these cities building dome stadiums to host the super bowl and other events. Nashville is also building a dome stadium and more will do it in the future. Eventually so many teams will be in warm weather cities or dome cities like Detroit and Minneapolis, they will be lucky to have the super bowl every 20 years.
 
Here is a problem for all of these cities building dome stadiums to host the super bowl and other events. Nashville is also building a dome stadium and more will do it in the future. Eventually so many teams will be in warm weather cities or dome cities like Detroit and Minneapolis, they will be lucky to have the super bowl every 20 years.
Detroit, Minneapolis, and Indianapolis were promised Super Bowl's by the NFL if their respective states would kick in huge amounts of taxpayer money for stadiums, they only way their getting another one is when they come begging for taxpayer money again. Is the state of Ohio helping to fund this stadium? If they're not, I bet Brook Park doesn't get one.
 
Here is a problem for all of these cities building dome stadiums to host the super bowl and other events. Nashville is also building a dome stadium and more will do it in the future. Eventually so many teams will be in warm weather cities or dome cities like Detroit and Minneapolis, they will be lucky to have the super bowl every 20 years.
I think the cold weather cities that build the domes don't make it on the "rotation" of super bowl host cities. They get one, and that's it. The Super Bowl hasn't gone back to Ford Field or Lucas Oil Stadium or or whatever the new Minneapolis dome is called and I don't think it will (unless in the next generation of stadiums, they build a new domed stadium).
 
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LOL!!!!

Penn State is spending $700 million on updating Beaver Stadium. Only will be used 7 times per year.

Pitt should spend a minimal amount of money to Tarp Acrisure Stadium down to 50,000 fans for Pitt home games.

Only has to be done 7 times per year.

I like Acrisure Club Seating for Pitt Games.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Just blow Acrisure up!
 
Are we calling all stadiums with a full roof a dome now; and not just ones that have spherical/egg shaped roofs?
 
That's me. I don't enjoy it anymore but I'm just really not in a good place in the cold anymore. Really dreading having to go to the football game this evening and it's going to be in the 50's.

To be honest, they ran all of the "little guys" out when they built the "new" stadiums thirty years ago. Before that, when you went to Cleveland or Pittsburgh or Baltimore, the stands were filled with working stiffs. The cars in the parking lots were rusty Chevy Nova's and AMC Hornets. Trust me when I say that it wasn't your average lawyer or banker type dressing up in dog costumes to sit on freezing cold bleachers in Cleveland or run around dressed up as transvestite pigs in DC. They pretty much priced those people out of the "new" stadiums and it was very noticeable. I remember going to Camden Yards the second season it was open for an exhibition game between the Pirates and Orioles and getting annoyed that people were acting like it was a cocktail party and just walking around talking about how much they paid to get in on Cisco. The round about point is that fans have an even higher expectation for game day, now, so it doesn't surprise me at all that domes with higher class accommodations are all the rage.

Steeler games were my favorite thing to do as a kid. We'd get down there at 9 am, and my dad/grandpap would start downing Coors Lights. I'd eat the food my mom/grandma packed us and catch football in the parking lot. Sometimes we'd go over to the buses to meet up with my aunt and uncle who had season tickets and came in with a crew from Johnstown every week. Such good times. I used to get such a kick out of all the drunken shenanigans that would take place in the parking lots/stands. I think there are still plenty of white trash fans who show up, but it's probably not nearly as prevalent as it used to be.

I do specifically remember keeping my ticket stubs for playoff games back in the day, and the Chargers AFC Championship game in 1995 had "$75" on it. Looks like that would be about $157 today, though I doubt you'd actually get into a playoff game for that price. Some of the regular season prices I remember were $30 and $35. This was in the mid-90's.
 
LOL!!!!

Penn State is spending $700 million on updating Beaver Stadium. Only will be used 7 times per year.

Pitt should spend a minimal amount of money to Tarp Acrisure Stadium down to 50,000 fans for Pitt home games.

Only has to be done 7 times per year.

I like Acrisure Club Seating for Pitt Games.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
Guess you didn't hear about the Luke Combs concert at Beaver Stadium that had 80,000 people in attendance. In April. Think that will be the only concert there?

 
I'm not at all a fan of watching football played indoors, but I suspect we'll see more of this stuff as stadiums are tailored toward a new age of fans who don't want to sit in the cold when they cold watch a game in HD on a 72-inch TV. Likely won't be long until there is a phone charger in every seat and who knows what else? Perhaps there may also be some Super Bowl hosting aspirations factoring into the decision, but I'm not sure. Other events, though, I would imagine could also be hosted.

Looks like this will be in Brook Park, OH - about 20 minutes SW of Cleveland.
The future is NFL games as "experiences". Jerry Jones was ahead of the curve as usual.

Not sure about the Pitt STHs, but I know as a Steelers STH I was surveyed about a number of potential new club options for Acrisure. Clearly the Rooneys are figuring out the details of the renovation. Anyway, they were all different layouts and such and included stuff like live music, windows so you can see the players file out of the locker room, all you eat-type packages, etc. I dunno what the winner will be, but clearly more club seating is coming to Acrisure, and maybe multiple new clubs.

It's not something most folks would choose to do every week. I can afford it -- I just don't think it's worth the quoted price. But I can see a future where it's less about the weekly crowd and more about chasing 'whales' coming into town ready to drop a couple grand at the stadium for a "Steelers Experience". So I expect a new Browns stadium won't just have a dome, but will be chock-full of club seats and entertainment venues and such.
 
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