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Bubbles and group think can be dangerous

They are 0-8 in Q1. I hate to agree with Lunardi as even he had them as the 1st team out before yesterday but he said if they weren't called North Carolina, would they even be talked about as a bubble team? 0-8 is really bad. What if Pitt was 0-8 in Q1? They play ND, UVa, FSU, Duke. I think they need to win out. If they dont win out, they probably have to make at least the ACC Final.


So Lunardi says that they wouldn't even be a bubble team without the name on the front of the jersey, and then he proceeds to call them the first team out.

And some of you guys live and die every day with that kind of stupidity.
 
So Lunardi says that they wouldn't even be a bubble team without the name on the front of the jersey, and then he proceeds to call them the first team out.

And some of you guys live and die every day with that kind of stupidity.

Yea it was a weird statement because he basically admitted their name was the only reason he had them as the 1st team out.
 
Yea it was a weird statement because he basically admitted their name was the only reason he had them as the 1st team out.


If he had the courage of his convictions he'd have said they were out and they weren't even really close, and he would have explained his reasoning. But he just can't bring himself to do it.

Remember that the next time you see, "well Joe Lunardi said...."
 
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If he had the courage of his convictions he'd have said they were out and they weren't even really close, and he would have explained his reasoning. But he just can't bring himself to do it.

Remember that the next time you see, "well Joe Lunardi said...."

In his defense a little bit, maybe he meant like their name and their name only causes you to look past their 0 Q1 wins and terrible road record. Like if they were called Boston College, wouldn't you just say "no Q1 wins, terrible road record, forget it" and they'd be like the 15th team out. But their name causes you to look a bit deeper and you see they are good in Q2, no bad losses, and SOS of 8.
 
In his defense a little bit, maybe he meant like their name and their name only causes you to look past their 0 Q1 wins and terrible road record. Like if they were called Boston College, wouldn't you just say "no Q1 wins, terrible road record, forget it" and they'd be like the 15th team out. But their name causes you to look a bit deeper and you see they are good in Q2, no bad losses, and SOS of 8.


If it's your job to do what he does, why on earth would you ever overlook someone just because of the name on the front of their jersey? It's not like he has 8 million teams to consider and it's just not possible to get to them all. It's really not that difficult at all to look over the resumes of teams that might be in consideration.

Essentially you are defending him by saying it's OK for him to not do what his actual job is. Either way, remember that the next time someone quotes him as some sort of authority.
 
Stronger bubble. WVU is currently on the bubble at 4-10 in conference

If teams like FAU and Charleston lose in their tournaments and have to take at large bids, it becomes different.
We need Dickie V shouting “if you can’t go at least .500 in your conference you don’t deserve to be in the tournament.”
 
There are only four teams in D-I who have played more quad 1 games than UNC and are still winless.

Villanova 0-9

California 0-9

Georgetown 0-10

Oregon State 0-11

Surely they're not THAT desperate for ratings?
Glad to see Scott Barnes is still a loser.
 
UNC not making it may affect tobacco road viewership, but will not affect my own. I love the tournament and watch every game I can. I hate Carolina worse than any sports team in North America. If they don't make it, I will rejoice.
 
We need Dickie V shouting “if you can’t go at least .500 in your conference you don’t deserve to be in the tournament.”
I don't have a say, but I do agree with Dickie V: a team that has a losing conference record doesn't deserve to dance.
 
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I said this in a thread 1-2 weeks ago. The tourney committee back then had to be getting nervous thinking about having to put together a bracket without Kentucky, UNC , Michigan or OSU in it. Since then Kentucky’s played themselves back in, and UNC will probably be in unless they really implode the rest of the way out. But OSU’s now definitely out and likely the same with Michigan.
 
If it's your job to do what he does, why on earth would you ever overlook someone just because of the name on the front of their jersey? It's not like he has 8 million teams to consider and it's just not possible to get to them all. It's really not that difficult at all to look over the resumes of teams that might be in consideration.

Essentially you are defending him by saying it's OK for him to not do what his actual job is. Either way, remember that the next time someone quotes him as some sort of authority.

I think Lunardi is a dope. I just think he means that their name makes someone take a deeper dive. Like if they were called BC, you click out real quick once you see 0 Q1 wins. But since its UNC, you spend a few more minutes just to look at everything and you see the resume besides Q1, is very bubblish. So their name makes people do that deeper dive is what I think he means but who knows, he's an idiot.
 
I said this in a thread 1-2 weeks ago. The tourney committee back then had to be getting nervous thinking about having to put together a bracket without Kentucky, UNC , Michigan or OSU in it. Since then Kentucky’s played themselves back in, and UNC will probably be in unless they really implode the rest of the way out. But OSU’s now definitely out and likely the same with Michigan.

Ohio State hates basketball. They dont sell out games even when they are good. And they brought like 1000 fans to PPG last year. No one in Columbus is watching basketball during Buckeye Spring Football Season.
 
I think Lunardi is a dope. I just think he means that their name makes someone take a deeper dive. Like if they were called BC, you click out real quick once you see 0 Q1 wins. But since its UNC, you spend a few more minutes just to look at everything and you see the resume besides Q1, is very bubblish. So their name makes people do that deeper dive is what I think he means but who knows, he's an idiot.


I know what you meant. And I'm saying that if that's true then he's just not doing his job. It isn't actually that hard to look at the resumes of the teams that have a chance to make the tournament. It's not like there are hundreds of them.
 
I get everyone is nervous as hell because it’s been a long time .
But this is getting silly
We are safely in
It would take an enormous collapse - like losing out badly
To even move to the wrong side of the bubble
I think that post was in reference to UNC’s chances.
 
I get everyone is nervous as hell because it’s been a long time .
But this is getting silly
We are safely in
It would take an enormous collapse - like losing out badly
To even move to the wrong side of the bubble
We were speaking about UNC. I don’t have any fear of Pitt making it
 
Ohio State hates basketball. They dont sell out games even when they are good. And they brought like 1000 fans to PPG last year. No one in Columbus is watching basketball during Buckeye Spring Football Season.
Living in the middle of OSU country, which is essentially the entire state, I’d say you’re wrong. But nothing ever stopped you from making definitive claims about things you don’t really know about before so oh well.
 
Ohio State hates basketball. They dont sell out games even when they are good. And they brought like 1000 fans to PPG last year. No one in Columbus is watching basketball during Buckeye Spring Football Season.
They seem to like it pretty well when the team is good. Funny how that works. Wonder if there are any other programs like that?
 
Yeah. A 6% dip can certainly be directly attributed to UNC not making the tourney. Those UNC fans were right.

All that craziness and we only saw a 6% insignificant drop? I think my point still stands.
Lol of course you do. The drop in the final four will be even more significant from last year with all blue bloods.
 
Lol of course you do. The drop in the final four will be even more significant from last year with all blue bloods.
You’re projecting. This isn’t hard. UNC missing the tourney is not a ratings disaster as UNC fans stated. The fact is, no one team’s absence is going to impact ratings in any measurable way. Your coming in and citing a 6% dip in ratings after multiple upsets and multiple big branded teams losing does nothing to refute the original point.

Now, maybe some UNC fans aren’t going to watch this year. That’s to be expected. But if a segment of one teams fans measurably impacts overall ratings, then overall viewership of the sport isn’t that great to begin with.

Your point that millions and millions of people turned off their TVs after UNC’s occlusion on selection Sunday and didn’t turn the tourney on 5 days later is ridiculous.
 
You’re projecting. This isn’t hard. UNC missing the tourney is not a ratings disaster as UNC fans stated. The fact is, no one team’s absence is going to impact ratings in any measurable way. Your coming in and citing a 6% dip in ratings after multiple upsets and multiple big branded teams losing does nothing to refute the original point.

Now, maybe some UNC fans aren’t going to watch this year. That’s to be expected. But if a segment of one teams fans measurably impacts overall ratings, then overall viewership of the sport isn’t that great to begin with.

Your point that millions and millions of people turned off their TVs after UNC’s occlusion on selection Sunday and didn’t turn the tourney on 5 days later is ridiculous.
It was measured. Blue bloods affect ratings. You were wrong. It’s ok. I was wrong once
 
It was measured. Blue bloods affect ratings. You were wrong. It’s ok. I was wrong once
You said blue bloods (plural). I said UNC (singular). If you need a lesson in grammar, let me know.

By the way, espn had the most brackets ever completed in the history of the tourney this year. Someone must have forgot to tell everyone that UNC wasn’t in the tourney.

 
This is a completely misleading thread title.

Lol. Thought this was going to be a about all of the released Fox emails in the Dominion case - where they admit over and over again that their business model is to knowingly, willingly lie to their viewer.
 
It was measured. Blue bloods affect ratings. You were wrong. It’s ok. I was wrong once
2023 NCAA 1st round set records and had the highest ratings and viewership in history. Someone should have told all those viewers not to bother watching because UNC wasn’t playing. My point stills stands.

 
Yeah. A 6% dip can certainly be directly attributed to UNC not making the tourney. Those UNC fans were right.

All that craziness and we only saw a 6% insignificant drop? I think my point still stands.
Most of the lower numbers are snowed-in UCLA fans and married women who only watch Tony Bennett.
 
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