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BWI in meltdown mode....

Tainted jury is the most popular response. If this is the end, you'd think they'd just admit they've been wrong since the get go, apologize to the victims for smearing their good name and move on. Sad bunch over there.
They are a brainwashed cult so you can't reason with them. My in laws are nitters-pretty normal folks as long as you're not discussing Psu or the child sex abuse crimes/coverup. Then they all of a sudden turn into unreasonable wackos.
 
Mutants all of them!
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It is awful over there. They are truly so self centered that the place is delusional. They still think no one knows what happened but it is clear they all knew but really did nothing about it because of the damage to the reputation of the football team. It is a national fact.
 
I really wonder where the people over there come from. Even some penn staters I know that are completely bonkers are nowhere near as deranged as what you see on that board.
 
We have good friends who are the "reasonable" PSU fans - they believed Joe knew and were horrified by what happened. But even they have moved on. Unfortunately this is old news, folks. It's disgusting.
 
That's because 'reasonable' PSU fans are not really Joe blue bloods. Those that appear to have moved on are a ruse.
 
The people on BWI are not typical PSU fans. That site is bat sh*t crazy and the PSU fans I know do not talk or act like that. I just went over and looked at a few threads and there is most definitely a cultural problem with the people who post on BWI.

PSU school should shut that site down as they are not helping the school's reputation.
 
The people on BWI are not typical PSU fans. That site is bat sh*t crazy and the PSU fans I know do not talk or act like that. I just went over and looked at a few threads and there is most definitely a cultural problem with the people who post on BWI.

PSU school should shut that site down as they are not helping the school's reputation.

The crazy may be over-represented on that site, but the % of wacko PSU fans is not insignificant.
It's pretty large. The elections and polls prove it. They're not normal.
Many are too ashamed to publicly air how they really feel, which is why people assume it's just a few bad apples.
 
The people on BWI are not typical PSU fans. That site is bat sh*t crazy and the PSU fans I know do not talk or act like that. I just went over and looked at a few threads and there is most definitely a cultural problem with the people who post on BWI.

PSU school should shut that site down as they are not helping the school's reputation.
Consider yourself to be lucky. All of the ones I know are in denial and brainwashed.
 
Yea the phrase "rush to judgement" is parroted by many PSU people I know that I considered to be normal prior to the scandal. Hero worship dies hard, I guess because they simply can't accept their accepted dogma wasn't the reality.
 
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How could SMU get the Death Penalty for a money scandal and PSU skate for a PEDOPHILE SCANDAL? Disgusting!
Because unfortunately whether kids get paid at a lot of schools or not, and they certainly did back then too, anything that may muddy the term "amateur athletics" is a huge PR problem for the NCAA. Might be even worse now with people being outspoken about the nature of the NCAA.
 
What's amazing is the complete lack of self reflection with them ... I mean honestly how far out of wack at the point is your life if you find yourself regularly defending this stuff over and over? Inventing paranoid delusional theories to back these bizarre stances.... how can't they just not stop and say whoa.... take some inventory on the situation and realize they've been played?

I saw somewhere recently a statement relating to politics but I think it applies... it's much easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled after the fact... yep
 
What's amazing is the complete lack of self reflection with them ... I mean honestly how far out of wack at the point is your life if you find yourself regularly defending this stuff over and over? Inventing paranoid delusional theories to back these bizarre stances.... how can't they just not stop and say whoa.... take some inventory on the situation and realize they've been played?

I saw somewhere recently a statement relating to politics but I think it applies... it's much easier to fool someone than it is to convince them they've been fooled after the fact... yep
I know. Even after the events of the past 5 years, they can't even be open to the POSSIBILITY that is MAY have really happened.
 
Well I don't get how most of them don't have any genuine remorse or empathy for the victims. The feeling i get is that they think everyone should "get over it" and that there's nothing that could have been done. Group sociopathic behavior like that is a cult. That's the only way to describe it
 
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Well I don't get how most of them don't have any genuine remorse or empathy for the victims. The feeling i get is that they think everyone should "get over it" and that there's nothing that could have been done. Group sociopathic behavior like that is a cult. That's the only way to describe it
MOVE ALONG......
 
Well I don't get how most of them don't have any genuine remorse or empathy for the victims. The feeling i get is that they think everyone should "get over it" and that there's nothing that could have been done. Group sociopathic behavior like that is a cult. That's the only way to describe it

Get over it !! Wtf is wrong with you.

Would your kid get over it..
 
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BWI is just an endless series of threads right now claiming that PSU is the real victim, that the fix was in, Louis Freeh is scum,blah, blah. It may take a generation (or even two) until the disgraceful Joebot apologists are dead and buried, but history will win out in the long run.

Outside central Pennsylvania, Paterno is always going to be viewed as a monster who looked the other way while children were being harmed. PSU is always going to be associated with this scandal. Once the crazies who were conned by Paterno for 50 years are gone, all that will remain will be the fact that his own school fired him and the administrators that worked alongside him were all either convicted or took a plea.
 
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BWI is just an endless series of threads right now claiming that PSU is the real victim, that the fix was in, Louis Freeh is scum,blah, blah. It may take a generation (or even two) until the disgraceful Joebot apologists are dead and buried, but history will win out in the long run.

Outside central Pennsylvania, Paterno is always going to be viewed as a monster who looked the other way while children were being harmed. PSU is always going to be associated with this scandal. Once the crazies who were conned by Paterno for 50 years are gone, all that will remain will be the fact that his own school fired him and the administrators that worked alongside him were all either convicted or took a plea.
People go there because they want to be part of such a thing. Not sure it can die out so easily when there are so many that are drawn to such an outfit.
 
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People go there because they want to be part of such a thing. Not sure it can die out so easily when there are so many that are drawn to such an outfit.

Maybe I should have been a little more clear. I meant that the Paterno is the real victim crazy conspiracy theories will die out once the Joebots are dead, not the school itself. Even the Joebots themselves acknowledge on BWI that the "over 50" crowd is well represented at many of the Cult's angry rallies. Those are people who were scammed by Paterno for 30. 40, 50 years, and can't accept the truth about what happened in State College.
 
Maybe I should have been a little more clear. I meant that the Paterno is the real victim crazy conspiracy theories will die out once the Joebots are dead, not the school itself. Even the Joebots themselves acknowledge on BWI that the "over 50" crowd is well represented at many of the Cult's angry rallies. Those are people who were scammed by Paterno for 30. 40, 50 years, and can't accept the truth about what happened in State College.
I think you were clear. You communicate quite well. But I think some people like to have someone to worship. JoePa is that man.
 
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What I can't understand is there are still BWI posters that keep the same mantra "all we want is the truth." What truth? They were tried and convicted of covering up child rape. It is clear that Joe knew and they did nothing until MM pushed the envelope. What truth are they referring to?
 
What I can't understand is there are still BWI posters that keep the same mantra "all we want is the truth." What truth? They were tried and convicted of covering up child rape. It is clear that Joe knew and they did nothing until MM pushed the envelope. What truth are they referring to?

They want the John Ziegler truth. But, he can't come up with a shred of credible evidence. It's all his conspiracy theory they've all been dumb enough to buy.
 
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What I can't understand is there are still BWI posters that keep the same mantra "all we want is the truth." What truth? They were tried and convicted of covering up child rape. It is clear that Joe knew and they did nothing until MM pushed the envelope. What truth are they referring to?
Yep. Freeh report (whether the guy is credible or not)... that was biased, we want the truth! Clemente report (basically hired to somewhat clear paterno's name)..... look at his report! That sounds much more like what happened!

They don't want the truth, they want the story that makes higher ups (especially paterno) as innocent as possible. Anything else to them will always be considered "not the truth".
 
1000's of documents, 100's of pages of sworn testimony, 2 pleas, a jury trial and nobody uttered a single line exonerating him. Not even off the record. Joe knew in 98. He knew in 01. He was consulted every step of the way and went in agreement with the 3 guilty. Its over.
 
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