Cal (PA) football player dies from COVID

[Sean Miller Fan]

Jamain Stephens's son.

Son of former Steelers player, Cal (Pa.) football player Jamain Stephens dies

Editor’s Note: On Wednesday afternoon, Central Catholic High School said in an amended statement that the school does not have an official confirmation on the cause of Jamain Stephens’ death. Previously, the high school reported that Stephens died of complications from covid-19. Here is a...

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This was my worry. Generally, college kids will barely even get sick from this but even though we think of linemen as being in shape, the reality is that they are extremely obese and at higher risk of developing complications because of that.

 

[revampedpanthers]

Jamain Stephens's son.

Son of former Steelers player, Cal (Pa.) football player Jamain Stephens dies

Editor’s Note: On Wednesday afternoon, Central Catholic High School said in an amended statement that the school does not have an official confirmation on the cause of Jamain Stephens’ death. Previously, the high school reported that Stephens died of complications from covid-19. Here is a...

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This was my worry. Generally, college kids will barely even get sick from this but even though we think of linemen as being in shape, the reality is that they are extremely obese and at higher risk of developing complications because of that.

Cal isn't playing football correct. Are they on campus? Even if lineman are obese at his age it would be extremely rare for someone to die of covid did he have other health issues

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Cal isn't playing football correct. Are they on campus? Even if lineman are obese at his age it would be extremely rare for someone to die of covid did he have other health issues

I agree its rare. More football players will die from other causes. Just saying.

And, yea, he probably did have other health issues, who knows.....but doesn't everybody. Only 6% of COVID deaths are from people without other complications.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

Way too soon...RIP Jamian! God speed!

 

[Macchiato]

I agree its rare. More football players will die from other causes. Just saying.

And, yea, he probably did have other health issues, who knows.....but doesn't everybody. Only 6% of COVID deaths are from people without other complications.

you have no clue what you are talking about. The 6% refers to Part I of the death certificate. Comorbidities that are part of the cause of death are in Part II.

Part I is the chain of events leading to death. It is pretty much impossible for COVID to be the only cause of death. COVID doesn’t kill people. It’s the complications from COVID that cause fatality. The 6% were not properly researched and were poorly written death certificates. COVID results in pneumonia that causes ARDS and then fatality. COVID causes blood clots that causes PE. The patient has neutropenia from Cancer and develops COVID that causes them to become septic. They die from septic. There are on an average 2.6 other diseases listed with COVID for a cause of death because they are linked together as the cause of death. It’s a cascade of events. The final blow goes as A and then events leading up to are B, C and D.

the comorbidities of patient that are not in the chain of events that lead to death go in Part II of the death certificate so they are not part of that 2.6 number quoted in the CDC update

sadly it was poorly constructed and people not familiar with death certificates and the difference between causeof death and comorbidities will continue to misrepresent what those numbers actually mean

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

you have no clue what you are talking about. The 6% refers to Part I of the death certificate. Comorbidities that are part of the cause of death are in Part II.

Part I is the chain of events leading to death. It is pretty much impossible for COVID to be the only cause of death. COVID doesn’t kill people. It’s the complications from COVID that cause fatality. The 6% were not properly researched and were poorly written death certificates. COVID results in pneumonia that causes ARDS and then fatality. COVID causes blood clots that causes PE. The patient has neutropenia from Cancer and develops COVID that causes them to become septic. They die from septic. There are on an average 2.6 other diseases listed with COVID for a cause of death because they are linked together as the cause of death. It’s a cascade of events. The final blow goes as A and then events leading up to are B, C and D.

the comorbidities of patient that are not in the chain of events that lead to death go in Part II of the death certificate so they are not part of that 2.6 number quoted in the CDC update

sadly it was poorly constructed and people not familiar with death certificates and the difference between causeof death and comorbidities will continue to misrepresent what those numbers actually mean

Thanks you for a great explanation

 

[PITT4UDAD]

Way too soon...RIP Jamian! God speed!

Terrible.. RIP.

 

[PittGlory]

Thanks you for a great explanation

Agreed, that was perfectly written for a lay person to comprehend. Thank you

 

[Burgh15]

I agree its rare. More football players will die from other causes. Just saying.

And, yea, he probably did have other health issues, who knows.....but doesn't everybody. Only 6% of COVID deaths are from people without other complications.

This statement has continued to bother me throughout the pandemic. It's not necessarily the intention of anyone who uses it, but to me it gives the feeling that those with health issues are somehow lesser than the young and healthy. Again, I don't always think it's the intent, just how it comes off to me.

From everything I read, Stephens was well liked and I saw he had some fun videos going around social media. He had a whole life ahead of him and it's a real shame to see his and others life cut short because of Covid.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

This statement has continued to bother me throughout the pandemic. It's not necessarily the intention of anyone who uses it, but to me it gives the feeling that those with health issues are somehow lesser than the young and healthy. Again, I don't always think it's the intent, just how it comes off to me.

From everything I read, Stephens was well liked and I saw he had some fun videos going around social media. He had a whole life ahead of him and it's a real shame to see his and others life cut short because of Covid.

Yea, I didn't intend it like that. I agree with you. A friend of a friend of a friend or whatever died from COVID and it was said "well, he weighed 350 pounds." OK, yea but guess what, had COVID never existed, that guy would still be alive today. The bottom line is out of the 190K deaths, probably 180K+ would still be alive today if COVID never existed (or if we did an Italy-like quarantine but we had to keep the stock market rolling. Now we have everyone's favorite combo: crazy high stock market, Depression-level unemployment, and mass death).

 

[Macchiato]

Thanks you for a great explanation

You are welcome. The CDC could have done a better job explaining. They write those updates like they are talking to other medical professionals. They need to consider the audience

 

[pittdan77]

You are welcome. The CDC could have done a better job explaining. They write those updates like they are talking to other medical professionals. They need to consider the audience

To be fair, the medical professionals are normally their audience. They're used to outsourcing the PR piece that deals with the public.

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

This........is one reason why you get "never maskers" to be skeptical of the disease. I am guessing far too many times out of convenience at best, intentionally trumping up virus numbers at worst ..........but the media needs to stop doing this crap!

 

[CougarClaws]

This........is one reason why you get "never maskers" to be skeptical of the disease. I am guessing far too many times out of convenience at best, intentionally trumping up virus numbers at worst ..........but the media needs to stop doing this crap!

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Thanx for posting this.

 

[NNFAN]

Always best to wait until the facts come out. Nevertheless, it is very sad to see somebody pass away at such a young age. SMF, are you gonna change your headline?

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

This........is one reason why you get "never maskers" to be skeptical of the disease. I am guessing far too many times out of convenience at best, intentionally trumping up virus numbers at worst ..........but the media needs to stop doing this crap!

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The media reported what the school put out
The school shouldn’t have released it without family consent
You’ve got this backwards

 

[Macchiato]

To be fair, the medical professionals are normally their audience. They're used to outsourcing the PR piece that deals with the public.

Fair enough

 

[recruitsreadtheseboards]

The media reported what the school put out
The school shouldn’t have released it without family consent
You’ve got this backwards

Does that make a difference?

 

[Somerset Panther]

Thanx for posting this.

93.7 the fan reported that the family indicated CC got it wrong, and passing was not due to COVID.

 

[4upmc]

First off its very sad to hear about the passing of this young man.

Irresponsible of CC and the media to report anything until they’ve heard from the family directly. As far as SMF he could care less about the young man all he cared about was hoping it was Covid related.

The young man seemed like a happy go lucky guy from some of the posts he made on Social media. Big guy had hands.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Does that make a difference?

Sure
You blamed the media
They reported the public information released

 

[Gunga_Galunga]

The media reported what the school put out
The school shouldn’t have released it without family consent
You’ve got this backwards

Its lazy, half assed reporting.... Vuk style.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

The media reported what the school put out
The school shouldn’t have released it without family consent
You’ve got this backwards

Yeah, but it wasn't his current school who put that out. It was his high school football coach that made the post that everyone quoted without bothering to check with anyone who might actually know the truth.

And that right there is media circa 2020 in a nutshell. Someone heard something from someone, and rather than actually do any fact checking they just ran with it. And then when it turns out to be wrong they fall back on "well we were just reporting what someone said." 30 or 40 years ago there would have been people getting fired for not fact checking their story and just running with a single sourced, second hand (at best) story.

Today people stick up for the people whose job it was to get the story right and who completely screwed it up.

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

Yeah, but it wasn't his current school who put that out. It was his high school football coach that made the post that everyone quoted without bothering to check with anyone who might actually know the truth.

And that right there is media circa 2020 in a nutshell. Someone heard something from someone, and rather than actually do any fact checking they just ran with it. And then when it turns out to be wrong they fall back on "well we were just reporting what someone said." 30 or 40 years ago there would have been people getting fired for not fact checking their story and just running with a single sourced, second hand (at best) story.

Today people stick up for the people whose job it was to get the story right and who completely screwed it up.

I don’t disagree
It’s better to break news than be accurate
Even the fda commissioner lies about the stats