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He doesn't even know what he's arguing against. He just sees something that isn't pom pom waving and starts going off like Ronnie from Jersey Shore after he's had two shots. My comment said that I don't know why people are snubbing their noses at 8-4 as if it would be a disappointment. I then listed a bunch of question marks and basically said that I'm sure some will be answered positively and others won't be.

So I'm the bad guy for telling people "woah nelly" when they're talking about 9 or 10 wins, but then when we actually win 7 or 8 games and I say "told you so," I'll also be the bad guy for being negative (even thought I'm literally stating that 8 wins for this season would be GOOOOOOD).
a very fair point. i was one that said 8-4 isnt great. i may have to take that back, we did seem to lose a lot.

but it's college football and we are in the acc, not the sec. every team lost significant players.. but your point is valid 8-4 probably isnt in "dissapointment" category..

but i also said that 8-4 comes in many different forms. 4-4 in the acc, i am not celebrating. 6-2, with losses to cincy and wvu, in the hunt to play in the acc game, that's a good year..
 
So glad simply to have a thread to think about football! End of hoops, the Pens with no hope, and yet another 100 loss Pirates season assured, makes this period a sports graveyard.

I see some validity in the pessimism in some posts, but at this point I have faith in Duz that he is going to be able to make something above average out of it. I’m not sure I could even explain why. But he’s done it more often than not.

I worry a bit of tailback play and WR, because it’s an offense-first sport. I think we’ll be ok if not better at QB with a solid starter and an actual viable backup. And an OL with some depth. But I have not yet seen evidence of playmakers. I’m not too worried about TB because Hammond is a solid bread and butter guy and a faster second back will likely emerge. But WR looks questionable. Sitting here now I’m not sure I can even name any! As for TE every year I want that to be a breakout position (as it is for so many great teams) and every year it … hasn’t been. Krull came closest to being one. Maybe a rejuvenated Bart is the one.

On D there is worry for all the DL we’ve lost. But that is Duz strength both in recruiting and development. So I will put blind faith he can deliver another good line. I have no so much faith in LB, but this makes 20 years or so of the same concern for that position. When the ball kicks off we’ll have guys playing there. That’s all I will bet on at this point. As for the secondary, their success will depend on the DL success, as it always has been in our system. Again, we’ll have a lot of different guys playing back there, that’s about all to count on right now.

I won’t predict how we’ll get there this early point, but 8-4 with a chance for 9 seems safe. Again only based on the faith that Duz has earned by now.
Ok, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re sincere in your analysis and not being overtly negative.

I believe that 11-2 and 9-4 is realistic. Anything less than 9-4 would be disappointing based on the schedule. Most posters including yourself feel that 9-4 is doable.

I’ve been following Pitt football for over 50 yrs. The roster has lots of talent.

You listed reasons as to why you feel posters are being too optimistic about the upcoming season.

I asked a relevant question: Outside of ND & FSU, take a look at the other teams on the schedule and tell me why you think they will be better than Pitt?

Instead of a conversation, I get mocked for being positive :

Lol. I would make a lot of money if you were the sportsbook.”

As I said, every team has the same problems.
 
a very fair point. i was one that said 8-4 isnt great. i may have to take that back, we did seem to lose a lot.

but it's college football and we are in the acc, not the sec. every team lost significant players.. but your point is valid 8-4 probably isnt in "dissapointment" category..

but i also said that 8-4 comes in many different forms. 4-4 in the acc, i am not celebrating. 6-2, with losses to cincy and wvu, in the hunt to play in the acc game, that's a good year..

I kind of view us as playing for cycles. That 2017 team had Jones, Weaver, Twyman, Hamlin, Ford, Mathis, Pinnock, etc. on the roster... and some of them showed flashes in 2017, but that defense never came into form until 2019. There were guys ahead of them like Dennis Briggs, Shane Roy, Hendrix, etc. who were less talented but better options at the time.

That's kind of where I see this defense now. We kind of know what Green, Danielson, Brima, Bentley, Temple, etc. are. Solid, but All-ACC level? Most likely not. So we kind of need to get a few years of experience in for Okunola, Scott, Neal (though he'll probably redshirt), etc., because they likely offer the best chance for that next waves of studs.

I don't think it's any coincidence that we've won 20 games over the last two years and then find out that Pickett, Addison, and Kancey are all probably 1st round picks, and then Mathis was drafted and Izzy, Dennis, Warren, Hill, etc. will probably soon be joining that group.

You need to load up on upperclassmen studs and make your run when you're a team like Pitt.
 
Ok, I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re sincere in your analysis and not being overtly negative.

I believe that 11-2 and 9-4 is realistic. Anything less than 9-4 would be disappointing based on the schedule. Most posters including yourself feel that 9-4 is doable.

I’ve been following Pitt football for over 50 yrs. The roster has lots of talent.
yeah but "The talent" is unknown. i am optimistic on Jurk but do we really even know what we have there?

Even the biggest pitt homer looks at our WR group with fear.. We have zero idea what to expect at safety and anyone who's watched narduzzi teams knows the defense with bad safety play is flat out disastrous..

even DL which we are excited for, we are going to rely on Brima, Nakhi Johnson..
 
yeah but "The talent" is unknown. i am optimistic on Jurk but do we really even know what we have there?

Even the biggest pitt homer looks at our WR group with fear.. We have zero idea what to expect at safety and anyone who's watched narduzzi teams knows the defense with bad safety play is flat out disastrous..

even DL which we are excited for, we are going to rely on Brima, Nakhi Johnson..
Sure, but again other teams have lots of unknowns as well. I give the staff the benefit of the doubt at this point. The schedule is not murders row…

Pitt is starting to look like some the Michigan State teams that Narduzzi was part of when he was there.

I am a positive person by nature…
 
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He doesn't even know what he's arguing against. He just sees something that isn't pom pom waving and starts going off like Ronnie from Jersey Shore after he's had two shots. My comment said that I don't know why people are snubbing their noses at 8-4 as if it would be a disappointment. I then listed a bunch of question marks and basically said that I'm sure some will be answered positively and others won't be.

So I'm the bad guy for telling people "woah nelly" when they're talking about 9 or 10 wins, but then when we actually win 7 or 8 games and I say "told you so," I'll also be the bad guy for being negative (even thought I'm literally stating that 8 wins for this season would be GOOOOOOD).
Extra credit for slipping in the Ronnie from Jersey Shore analogy. I’m a glass is half full guy and I agree with you. We lost quite a few good players.
 
Extra credit for slipping in the Ronnie from Jersey Shore analogy. I’m a glass is half full guy and I agree with you. We lost quite a few good players.

Exactly Saying we will go 8-4 after what we've lost the last two years is a testament to what Narduzzi has going. If that is our new "valley," then things are pretty good for us Pitt fans.
 
Sure, but again other teams have lots of unknowns as well. I give the staff the benefit of the doubt at this point. The schedule is not murders row…

Pitt is starting to look like some the Michigan State teams that Narduzzi was part of when he was there.

I am a positive person by nature…
cant disagree with one word of this.. i too am optimistic with this program.... with everything except the damn Wr group
 
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Sure, but again other teams have lots of unknowns as well. I give the staff the benefit of the doubt at this point. The schedule is not murders row…

Pitt is starting to look like some the Michigan State teams that Narduzzi was part of when he was there.

I am a positive person by nature…

The schedule is pretty difficult. Not many P5 teams are playing 11 P5 opponents. Seriously, find me two more teams outside of Pitt that are doing that. I don't even know if you could. I think WVU was the only team that did it last season.

It may not grade out as difficult because there aren't a bunch of top-flight teams on it, but look at our history. It isn't always the best teams on the schedule that pick us off. When you have an off day against Delaware, you win the game. When you have an off day against GT - even though they weren't a good team - you lose the game. It's that simple. Playing 11 P5 opponents makes it a tough schedule.
 
cant disagree with one word of this.. i too am optimistic with this program.... with everything except the damn Wr group
Yes, the WR’s does concern me. Pitt has 5 open scholarships as of right now. There will be some players that will leave after the spring drills. I think you will see a couple of WR transfers coming are way that I hope will help.

Mumpfield, Means and Reynolds need to step up and be the guy like Wayne was last season. I still believe one of them will. Maybe one of the talent Freshman may step up? We’ll see…
 
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Well if it isn’t the resident turd in the punch bowl!

Ya know dude, I noticed you’re never around to celebrate anything good. Like for instance, The Sun Bowl, so I decided to check….. Sure enough… Nothing….

No post of excitement, no post of congratulations, no post of optimism… nothing.

However in preparation for the game, you posted this gem 3 days before the game:

I’m the history of bowl games, no Sun Bowl game ever has, and never would have been, a “classic” bowl game.” - Dec 28th

That’s it…..

Your act is very old…. Do something with your sad life and get one…

And I’m around to celebrate the negativity?

How many posts did I make after the GT loss? Did you go back that far?
 
The thing is, if you go back to last summer, I nailed my projection of Slovis. Not just how his general play would be, but literally the very reasons why. You would honestly think I was posting from the future in the Slovis discussions.

And I’m sure it’s probably the same posters in those discussions, telling me I don’t know what I’m talking about and just being negative and blah blah blah.

All I’m saying is: the same analytic numbers I used last summer to have an honest and realistic expectation about Slovis, are the same ones I’m using this year in regards to PJ.

People pretending like he’s some great transfer get are setting themselves up for disappointment again. He’s been at best an average QB in his career. *at best*

8-4 with an average to below average QB, with the impact players lost and probably a lot of 50-50 games, is not the “floor,” and is not a disappointing season.
 
And I’m around to celebrate the negativity?

How many posts did I make after the GT loss? Did you go back that far?
That’s because you aren’t a Pitt fan. You don’t care whether they win or lose.

However, when posters are discussing the future, recruiting, the staff, the players, conference realignment, etc…You downplay, scoff, and theorize the worst possible outcome.

Why you are here is puzzling…
 
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That’s because you aren’t a Pitt fan. You don’t care whether they win or lose.

However, when posters are discussing the future, recruiting, the staff, the players, conference realignment, etc…You downplay, scoff, and theorize the worst possible outcome.

Why you are here is puzzling…

I’m not sure I’ve ever said one word about Pitt and realignment.

I also predicted 9-3 last year during the season prediction threads.

And I agree, it is puzzling. According to you, I’m not a fan, but I’m also not really a troll since I don’t come to take pleasure in the bad times either. I just kind of exist as this third thing.

But whatever. If it keeps you entertained and keeps giving you something to do on this board, I’ll happily be your mysterious third thing.
 
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I’m not sure I’ve ever said one word about Pitt and realignment.

I also predicted 9-3 last year during the season prediction threads.

And I agree, it is puzzling. According to you, I’m not a fan, but I’m also not really a troll since I don’t come to take pleasure in the bad times either. I just kind of exist as this third thing.

But whatever. If it keeps you entertained and keeps giving you something to do on this board, I’ll happily be your mysterious third thing.
“I’m not a fan,”

I’m not a fan of a lot of teams, but I don’t hang around their message boards. I have a life outside of my passion for Pitt, but to each their own…
 
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