a very fair point. i was one that said 8-4 isnt great. i may have to take that back, we did seem to lose a lot.He doesn't even know what he's arguing against. He just sees something that isn't pom pom waving and starts going off like Ronnie from Jersey Shore after he's had two shots. My comment said that I don't know why people are snubbing their noses at 8-4 as if it would be a disappointment. I then listed a bunch of question marks and basically said that I'm sure some will be answered positively and others won't be.
So I'm the bad guy for telling people "woah nelly" when they're talking about 9 or 10 wins, but then when we actually win 7 or 8 games and I say "told you so," I'll also be the bad guy for being negative (even thought I'm literally stating that 8 wins for this season would be GOOOOOOD).
but it's college football and we are in the acc, not the sec. every team lost significant players.. but your point is valid 8-4 probably isnt in "dissapointment" category..
but i also said that 8-4 comes in many different forms. 4-4 in the acc, i am not celebrating. 6-2, with losses to cincy and wvu, in the hunt to play in the acc game, that's a good year..