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CFP ranks will be interesting

i am trying to figure which is the craziest thing i read in this thread:

SMU (with 2 losses) is getting in the CFP in front of Alabama (with 3 losses)

OR

Penn St is going to lose to Arizona State

As a side note, I don't know why Alabama gets every scaled tipped in their favor, but fact remains that they do. It could be 12-0 SMU playing against a 11-1 Clemson and the loser of that game would still be out in favor of 3 loss Alabama. The ACC is a one bid league period. Don't complain too much though, because the ACC probably won't even have an automatic bid in the next CFP contract.
They should change the name of the CFP to the B1G v SEC Challenge. But we can always hope that a Cinderella team gets the game clock to 0:00 with a win before the real clock strikes midnight
 
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Seriously?

Bama isn't very good. None the SEC teams are anything special this year. The top 3 Big 10 (Oregon, tOSU &;PSU) schools should be able to play with any of them.
The peds are not that special. Take Warren out of the game and make Allar beat you in the air.
 
What's funny is that the ACC may get 2/17 teams in the 12 team playoff but right now, they only get 4/18 basketball teams in the 68 team NCAA Tournament. Basketball has been really bad in the ACC for 5 or 6 years now and this is looking like their worst year yet. Currently 0-9 in the ACC/SEC Challenge.
 
What's funny is that the ACC may get 2/17 teams in the 12 team playoff but right now, they only get 4/18 basketball teams in the 68 team NCAA Tournament. Basketball has been really bad in the ACC for 5 or 6 years now and this is looking like their worst year yet. Currently 0-9 in the ACC/SEC Challenge.

They aren't getting 2 teams in. If SMU loses they are out.
 
The peds are not that special. Take Warren out of the game and make Allar beat you in the air.

That's the thing. There isn't a special team in the whole 12 team field.

I was responding to SMF about Bama, and I can easily see PSU beating Alabama. OU beat Alabama and only threw for 68 yds. Milroe is inconsistent in the passing game, and at times he can be absolutely awful.
 
That's the thing. There isn't a special team in the whole 12 team field.

I was responding to SMF about Bama, and I can easily see PSU beating Alabama. OU beat Alabama and only threw for 68 yds. Milroe is inconsistent in the passing game, and at times he can be absolutely awful.
I don't think PSU beats Bama (and if that is an argument for Bama being in the field then so be it).

Franklin makes his living beating up on lesser teams, they almost never lose to an inferior team. That's why I think they beat Arizona St easily.

However, play a team with even talent/coaching (or better talent/coaching), they are only winning that game in fluke scenarios (like the Ohio St game a few years ago). Anyone that can match PSU's raw talent (Georgia, Alabama, Ohio St, Texas, etc) is going to beat them because Franklin isn't 'out-coaching' anyone.
 
I don't think PSU beats Bama (and if that is an argument for Bama being in the field then so be it).

Franklin makes his living beating up on lesser teams, they almost never lose to an inferior team. That's why I think they beat Arizona St easily.

However, play a team with even talent/coaching (or better talent/coaching), they are only winning that game in fluke scenarios (like the Ohio St game a few years ago). Anyone that can match PSU's raw talent (Georgia, Alabama, Ohio St, Texas, etc) is going to beat them because Franklin isn't 'out-coaching' anyone.

Yea. They won't beat Bama. Franklin has only won a couple games in his PSU career when the other team had similar or better talent. I am hoping UGa and Oregon win this week so the seeds are like this:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. ACC, MWC, or B12
4. ACC, MWC, or B12
5. Texas
6. PSU
11. Bama
12. ACC, MWC, or B12.

Really hoping its 6 PSU vs 11 Bama.
 
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Yea. They won't beat Bama. Franklin has only won a couple games in his PSU career when the other team had similar or better talent. I am hoping UGa and Oregon win this week so the seeds are like this:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. ACC, MWC, or B12
4. ACC, MWC, or B12
5. Texas
6. PSU
11. Bama
12. ACC, MWC, or B12.

Really hoping its 6 PSU vs 11 Bama.
Notre Dame and Texas would most likely be the 5 & 6 in whatever order in this scenario.
 
Notre Dame is my dark horse. They might also lose in the first round and make me look stupid, but I think they can win it all. Maybe.
 
Yea. They won't beat Bama. Franklin has only won a couple games in his PSU career when the other team had similar or better talent. I am hoping UGa and Oregon win this week so the seeds are like this:

1. Oregon
2. Georgia
3. ACC, MWC, or B12
4. ACC, MWC, or B12
5. Texas
6. PSU
11. Bama
12. ACC, MWC, or B12.

Really hoping its 6 PSU vs 11 Bama.
They may or may not. This is not 2009-2020 Alabama and James Franklin doesn't play.
 
At least one committee member is already walking back on the "we won't punish a team for losing a conference championship game" thing, saying he might consider Alabama over SMU if SMU loses. Amazing they're flip flopping on this concept not only in year one but before the games are even played.
 
At least one committee member is already walking back on the "we won't punish a team for losing a conference championship game" thing, saying he might consider Alabama over SMU if SMU loses. Amazing they're flip flopping on this concept not only in year one but before the games are even played.
This is a made for TV event for the Big 10 & SEC. The Big 12, SEC, and ACC are only in there to dangle a little carrot to keep those fans engaged in the sport.
 
i am trying to figure which is the craziest thing i read in this thread:

SMU (with 2 losses) is getting in the CFP in front of Alabama (with 3 losses)

OR

Penn St is going to lose to Arizona State

As a side note, I don't know why Alabama gets every scaled tipped in their favor, but fact remains that they do. It could be 12-0 SMU playing against a 11-1 Clemson and the loser of that game would still be out in favor of 3 loss Alabama. The ACC is a one bid league period. Don't complain too much though, because the ACC probably won't even have an automatic bid in the next CFP contract.
head to head, I would expect Bama to annihilate two thirds of that current CFP field.
 
I don't think PSU beats Bama (and if that is an argument for Bama being in the field then so be it).

Franklin makes his living beating up on lesser teams, they almost never lose to an inferior team. That's why I think they beat Arizona St easily.

However, play a team with even talent/coaching (or better talent/coaching), they are only winning that game in fluke scenarios (like the Ohio St game a few years ago). Anyone that can match PSU's raw talent (Georgia, Alabama, Ohio St, Texas, etc) is going to beat them because Franklin isn't 'out-coaching' anyone.
PSU doesn't have anything close to the talent level of Georgia, Alabama, Ohio St, Oregon or Texas. All of those teams have their issues and as we've seen are vulnerable on any given day, but PSU's 2 deep doesn't compare to theirs. PSU probably doesn't have as much talent as Clemson.
 
At least one committee member is already walking back on the "we won't punish a team for losing a conference championship game" thing, saying he might consider Alabama over SMU if SMU loses. Amazing they're flip flopping on this concept not only in year one but before the games are even played.

When did they ever say they wont punish a team for losing in their CCG? What if SMU loses by 70 and Kevin Jennings breaks his leg? How could you put them in?

The CCG is part of the season. SMU has 0 wins over the current Top 25. They shouldn't be in with a loss.
 
When did they ever say they wont punish a team for losing in their CCG? What if SMU loses by 70 and Kevin Jennings breaks his leg? How could you put them in?

The CCG is part of the season. SMU has 0 wins over the current Top 25. They shouldn't be in with a loss.
Yeah it may be a mass delusion about them actually clearly saying it black and white.

"We try not to punish [teams that lose championship games] but we are watching the games. Not just ‘they lost’ but how did the game proceed? How was the performance" - chairman Manuel. And another quote about how they will "value arriving at a conference championship game."

I think SMU is in, fwiw. How they won matters to the committee, they looked very good.
 
In other words, they will use the results of the CCG's as they see fit.
Yes, they just have committee members who say enough things that they inevitably will contradict themselves. They made it clear they weigh injuries last year with Florida State and it's entirely possible, e.g. next year, that a key Georgia player will be injured and they'll ignore that because "the resume was strong" or whatever. Really, same as always, it's going to be pretty arbitrary for non conference champs.
 
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