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Congratulations to Miami

Like Larranaga. He has a good team and they’re playing as well as anybody right now. Hate Miami. Can’t ever root for them, any sport, any game, under any circumstances.
 
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I wonder what Miami's total payroll is. I know that Pack makes 400,000, and Wong gets at least a hundred grand.
 
I wonder what Miami's total payroll is. I know that Pack makes 400,000, and Wong gets at least a hundred grand.
How much was Jim Calhoun paying players before NIL was legal? What about Duke, Kansas, Kentucky, and just about every other powerhouse before NIL? The only difference is NIL has made it legal nowadays.
 
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I thought it was universal that Pitt fans hate UCONN. They are right up there with WVU and Syracuse for me as most hated. Can't believe I see people on here rooting for them.

I’m only rooting for them as I picked them to win it in all of my brackets. It does feel kind of gross.
 
I thought it was universal that Pitt fans hate UCONN. They are right up there with WVU and Syracuse for me as most hated. Can't believe I see people on here rooting for them.
Exactly 💯! Back in the day Calhoun was such a prick and their program has deep pockets for hoops. Their fans up in MSG for the BE tourneys were so obnoxious.
 
Miami is a gifted offensive team. That said, their 2nd half defense today was damn good. If they can keep Uconn from going nuts from 3 they will have a chance. Uconn will present problems for Miami that Texas didn't though. Omeir is going to have trouble with the Uconn big men. Looking forward to this game, but, I think Uconn has too many good shooters, and won't go cold for any type of spell.
 
I thought it was universal that Pitt fans hate UCONN. They are right up there with WVU and Syracuse for me as most hated. Can't believe I see people on here rooting for them.
Me personally, I probably dislike UCONN more than WVU and Syracuse for some reason.
 
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Me personally, I probably dislike UCONN more than WVU and Syracuse for some reason.
I never hated UCONN per se - I thought it was a great rivalry like the Steelers and Ravens where it was fierce but there was a lot respect among the players. In 2004 when UCONN won it all, they gave credit to the tough matchups with Pitt that prepared them.

I didn’t like Calhoun or their fans but the games were legendary back in the day. Having said that I’m rooting for Miami because they are in the ACC and we almost beat them twice and I like their coach.
 
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I like both Miami and Uconn, as worthy adversaries and rivals. I loved beating Uconn in the Big East and miss playing them. Miami is an ACC school, I have a lot of respect for their coach. we beat them once, almost twice !
 
Miami is a gifted offensive team. That said, their 2nd half defense today was damn good. If they can keep Uconn from going nuts from 3 they will have a chance. Uconn will present problems for Miami that Texas didn't though. Omeir is going to have trouble with the Uconn big men. Looking forward to this game, but, I think Uconn has too many good shooters, and won't go cold for any type of spell.
They have the length and athletes to be as good defensively as they want to be. They have definitely taken their D up a couple notches in this tournament.
 
I never hated UCONN per se - I thought it was a great rivalry like the Steelers and Ravens where it was fierce but there was a lot respect among the players. In 2004 when UCONN won it all, they gave credit to the tough matchups with Pitt that prepared them.

I didn’t like Calhoun or their fans but the games were legendary back in the day. Having said that I’m rooting for Miami because they are in the ACC and we almost beat them twice and I like their coach.
Honestly, part of my dislike of UCONN probably stems from jealousy ... a team I thought we were pretty even with as a top dog in the Big East, yet they could win national titles and we could not. I have never really been jealous of Syracuse and WVU (even though you could say similar things about Syracuse's tournament success that seemed to evade us).
 
And San Diego State used a Howland/Early Dixon model of post play, rebounding, defense to make the final 4. It’s almost like there’s no magic formula to winning basketball games.

Btw, @Duneaux Harm are you gonna write another PM to the mods of this board telling them I know NOTHING about college hoops because I bet on lowly Miami?
 
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I can’t remember the exact numbers, but Miami’s victory made the Pitt athletic department more than six figures. The ACC splits its sports revenue evenly, and getting a team to the Final Four means a big chunk of change. That’s why I always root for ACC teams. It means more money for us.
 
I find myself compartmentalizing my hatred for other programs more often than not. I don't like Miami football, but I could care less about their basketball program. I was pulling for the ACC yesterday. It's the inverse with Syracuse. I don't even care enough about Penn State basketball to dislike it all that much. Notre Dame might be the only school where I actively pull against both football and basketball.

All that said, Uconn looks like a buzz saw at the moment.
 
Same. I despise Miami in general but I don’t like Hurley and I’m rooting for the ACC so go canes

The Miami win is another reminder of how good of a year Pitt had. They came within one shot of sweeping them
Agree with each point here. Miami is incredibly difficult to like … football or basketball each with dirty players, dirty coaches, payola, tainted titles, apparently impossible for the NCAA to regulate, etc. Miami teams are also annoying in the constant overranking they get, on the basis of football success from 35 years ago now. It’s satisfying to see Miami inevitably fail and make those rankings look foolish, but frustrating that a similar Pitt team won’t get ranked at all in the preseason regardless of promise, and then have to battle furiously all season merely to sneak into the top 25.

I can respect Miami’s teams for their talent and hope they win for the good it might do for our conference… but can never root for their teams admiringly. They are classless, entitled and garbage.

But the game that decided the ACC regular season was a heck of a game, very close… and as I watched Miami battle Texas, I concluded that Pitt could have played them hard as well. We didn’t have quite the talent that Miami bought, but we had a cohesive, tough team that could get hot. In some weird way even though it didn’t need it, Miami’s win helped validate our season.
 
Agree with each point here. Miami is incredibly difficult to like … football or basketball each with dirty players, dirty coaches, payola, tainted titles, apparently impossible for the NCAA to regulate, etc. Miami teams are also annoying in the constant overranking they get, on the basis of football success from 35 years ago now. It’s satisfying to see Miami inevitably fail and make those rankings look foolish, but frustrating that a similar Pitt team won’t get ranked at all in the preseason regardless of promise, and then have to battle furiously all season merely to sneak into the top 25.

I can respect Miami’s teams for their talent and hope they win for the good it might do for our conference… but can never root for their teams admiringly. They are classless, entitled and garbage.

But the game that decided the ACC regular season was a heck of a game, very close… and as I watched Miami battle Texas, I concluded that Pitt could have played them hard as well. We didn’t have quite the talent that Miami bought, but we had a cohesive, tough team that could get hot. In some weird way even though it didn’t need it, Miami’s win helped validate our season.
uh, they are 18-23 year old kids like every other college and no more or less classless or entitled than anyone else. Have no personal relationship with many of their fans so I cannot hate them as a rival based on that....As far as the Pitt football analogy goes, have a 10-15 year stretch of dominance at some point and you will be "over-ranked" when that dominance is no longer the case too...
 
I would love for Miami to win to show the depth of the ACC. Here are the champions over the last 20 years. Only four conferences represented (current conference team is in)

ACC (8)
Virginia
UNC X3
Duke X2
Louisville
Syracuse

Big East (5)
Villanova X2
Uconn X3

Big 12 (3)
Kansas X2
Baylor

SEC (3)
Kentucky
Florida X2
 
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I can’t remember the exact numbers, but Miami’s victory made the Pitt athletic department more than six figures. The ACC splits its sports revenue evenly, and getting a team to the Final Four means a big chunk of change. That’s why I always root for ACC teams. It means more money for us.


Winning one game isn't really that much of a difference. That win yesterday by Miami got the ACC one more tournament share. Tournament shares are paid out over six years. It comes out to something like $350,000 per share (each year). That money gets split 15 ways in the ACC (I don't know if the league office takes a 16th share or not, let's assume that they don't). So that would mean that that Miami win yesterday made Pitt (and every other ACC team) somewhere around an extra $23,000 per year for the next six years.
 
And San Diego State used a Howland/Early Dixon model of post play, rebounding, defense to make the final 4. It’s almost like there’s no magic formula to winning basketball games.

Btw, @Duneaux Harm are you gonna write another PM to the mods of this board telling them I know NOTHING about college hoops because I bet on lowly Miami?
By the way, Miami had the most difficult path to reach the final 4: a 12-seed, a 4-seed, a 2-seed, and a 1-seed. UConn's 2 best were a 3 and a 5.
 
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