Pretty awesome considering we did it running a HS offense 🤣
Congratulations to Wayne/Cigs/Underwood
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Pretty awesome considering we did it running a HS offense 🤣
Amazing job !
5 TDs (half of Slovis’ TDs)
#25th in receptions and receiving yards as our primary receiver !
Wayne did great considering, no doubt !
He was a bright spot
5 TDs (half of Slovis’ TDs)
#25th in receptions and receiving yards as our primary receiver !
Wayne did great considering, no doubt !
He was a bright spot
Post goes off the rails on second post. Typical lair.
Jared Wayne is proof positive that a recruit can come in unheralded and through hard, honest work and patience be a vital cog to a winning program. Well done.
I made a thread how we should spend our limited NIL $. #1 was to keep our top proven players. Izzy is gone but on O our best player left is Wayne. Yes he is a non citizen (student visa) but other schools have proven there are loop holes to get them $.
On D Kancey is gone. But I hope we have NIL $ to keep Dennis and some of the proven vets in the secondary. Dennis is a hell of a player and a team leader…the coaches and players love him. Plus if he stays maybe we keep Hill since they are close friends (I think roommates).
On D Kancey is gone. But I hope we have NIL $ to keep Dennis and some of the proven vets in the secondary. Dennis is a hell of a player and a team leader…the coaches and players love him. Plus if he stays maybe we keep Hill since they are close friends (I think roommates).
Glad to see that you also agree that cignetti's offense was very high school like. Just imagine the stats he could have had in an offense that was designed to be successful in 2022.
Yup. And the neat thing is when the run game is churning, you get these dbs isolated and the rest is history. Great offense to hit big plays from.
What I want to know is how do you have 14+ catches? Did he have 15 catches? 16? or was it 14? Maybe it is just poor wording and it's meant like "the only player with 14+ catches beyond 20 yards?"
I'm also confused about who put together the tweet as their own stats show he had 14 receptions beyond 20 yards, the same number as Dorian Singer at Arizona, another P5 school.
Either way, no one can argue that Wayne disappointed this season. Let's hope he builds on that next year for another Pitt Biletnikoff.
I'm also confused about who put together the tweet as their own stats show he had 14 receptions beyond 20 yards, the same number as Dorian Singer at Arizona, another P5 school.
Either way, no one can argue that Wayne disappointed this season. Let's hope he builds on that next year for another Pitt Biletnikoff.
71 in rushing EPA
84 in passing EPA
There wasn’t much “neat” about the offense this year I’m afraid.
Amazing we were ranked that high with a QB that had Cigs putting band aids on every piece of his playbook.
...and all the injuries. While it wasn't a good year for the O, the deranged hatred for Cignetti by a small number of folks on this board was certainly the most memorable aspect of this season. It would've been comical of it hadn't been so over the top.
Can you show us in history when he has the right players to be high level - and not average ?
He had the 5th ranked scoring offense in 2004 and & 7th in 2005. That's not bad.
😂 I know seriously, and the same yinzers would say that Slovis with a major concussion and Patti with a hairline fracture had nothing to do with it either.
This is sad.
Slovis graded out as a legit P5 starter *every* year in college according to PFF.
Then FCJ gets a hold of him and now all of a sudden he absolutely sucks and he’s why FCJ’s offense did exactly what it does basically every year.
Honestly, the stat that started this thread is all you need to show Cignetti's offense isnt 3 carries and a pile of dust.
I couldnt even imagine how bad this year woulda been if we threw the ball around with our lack of receiving depth and oline injuries all year and a QB that couldnt read a blitz
So to clarify - you had to go back 11 jobs and nearly 20 years ago to show how good he can be in the WAC.
I don't know if I blame cignetti more or Narduzzi on that one. Slovis looked fine when we ran spread concepts. Not great or anything, but in hurry up 3 wide situations he could make throws. He struggled doing drop back passing under center, which is a key part of Cignettis offense. Why did Narduzzi recruit him here knowing he was going to hire a pro style OC?
To clarify - you stated history. Competition is relative, btw.
And for the record, Fresno State put up 35 pts on Washington , 45 pts on Kansas State, and 37 pts on UVA in '04. (KSU & UVA both ranked opponents). In 2005, they put up 34 pts on Oregon and 42 against #1 ranked USC.
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He is a legit P5 starter & he didn't suck at Pitt. He certainly wasn't the only, nor the main reason for Pitt's offensive struggles. He's not without issues though.
Didn't Slovis get benched in favor of Jaxon Dart his last year at USC?
Yeah. Dart also graded out as a legit P5 starter. And went on to start at another P5 school.
The scary thing is people want to pretend like Slovis graded out as a horrible QB. He didn’t.
FCJ’s offense is so bad, you need great QB play to get even average results.
It’s basically Jimbo Fisher’s offense at this point.
Washington finished the season 1-10 and had the #84 scoring defense
KSU finished 4-7 with the #85 scoring defense
That season they also played the following ranked defenses
27 pts vs Portland State
21 pts vs #93 LA Tech
21 Pts vs #58 UTEP
16 pts vs #65 Boise
42 vs #114 SMU
52 vs #106 Rice
70 vs #115 Hawaii
54 vs #108 Nevada
62 vs #120 San Jose State
They played 2 defenses the entire year that were in the top HALF of college football in scoring defenses and averaged 29 points against them. There is a reason that the top 20 scoring offenses each year are 40-50% non-Power 5 teams and it's not because they're filled with offensive geniuses.
57 in total offense out of 132 FBS teams is far from a disaster. They were 58 in 2020 and 113 in 2019. FWIW, Nebraska was 101 this year. The statement in bold is false, because Pitt got average results, and did not get great QB play. Far from it.
It's not that his offense is bad. It's just that it requires a QB that can actually read a defense and throw the ball on time. It didn't gel because at times because Slovis couldn't read his progressions fast enough or didn't trust his receivers enough to get rid of the ball. (some of that is on his receivers) Also, any QB with his mobility issues is going to have some limitations in today's game. It will be interesting to see where Slovis goes from here and how he performs next year.
I never considered Still great yet playing in Cigs offense he was voted by the coaches as the best t QB in the league. I think you can be a competitor in any league if you have the best QB.
The bad thing is that there were some plays where Slovis just didn’t throw the ball on time or make the right really quick enough to have a big play happen. Slovis was good at times but the games where we needed him to elevate he either got hurt or he was average. Maybe Cignetti wanted a multi read check down quarterback and Slovis was a one read quarterback.
There’s no such thing as a coach that doesn’t want a QB that can quickly read a defense and go through progressions.
There are just so few of those QBs, that modern offenses are designed to limit the need for that for the offense to be successful.
That’s the entire reason why some of us don’t like FCJ’s offense, and argue why it has had so little success throughout his time as an OC.
I posted the offense EPA numbers above. That’s with a QB that graded out as a solid QB starter every year before he got put into this offense.
And yes, I agree with you. All FCJ needs for his offenses to be successful is an OL that can bulldoze over teams even when FCJ bunches the formation, and a QB that can make NFL reads.
Shouldn’t be that hard.
So, is it Whipple-like in that you need multiple years to master? Or is it the innate thing with what the QB brings himself? Yarnell may be exposed to this offense for miltiple years, but does he have the ability to process defensive alignments in the time he’s under center? ”program QB’s” ain’t happenin’ anymore. Thinking it takes a special QB to run this thing. This post is a fence sitter. I am not offering any solution just wondering aloud.
LoL. You act as if the offense only uses bunch formations. And yes, Pitt can, and should be able to stock an offensive line that can bulldoze 3/4 of the teams in their conference.
There are reasons Bama was throwing money at Drake Maye and don't seem to have any interest in Slovis. And Maye was hot garbage down the stretch.
I’m not pretending like Slovis was an elite player. So I’m not sure what your Bama example is suppose to be proving?
And why should Pitt’s OL be able to bulldoze most of the ACC in any given year? What’s the competitive advantage Pitt has that allows that?
Almost as comical as the deranged support for Cig’s scheme and play calling while blaming Slovis, who got hit hard about 20 times in the Tenn game due to Cig’s pass pro scheme’s failure to protect him, for any issues.
News flash-offense was the problem this year. That was beyond obvious. Cig runs the offense. He gets the blame. Your QB can’t get the job done, you play the next guy. You don’t have a capable next guy, you failed as a staff.
This offense never found a flow or rhythm all year. That’s on the playcaller.
We’ll see what happens next year and the year after. I doubt it will impress. And I’m sure according to the usual suspects it will be all Jurk’s fault next year.
Hell yeah! Good enough for 57th in the country in total offense and around 50th im scoring. Awesome stuff!
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