While Cig has not done great anywhere he’s been, much of the problem this season, especially the final 10 games, was Slovis. That is certainly not a foregone conclusion though. The beauty is that Cig will have his custom-designed QB in his employ next season, so there will be no doubt, and no excuses.
Congratulations to Wayne/Cigs/Underwood
- Thread starter steelcurtain55.
- Start date
Right. He graded out as a solid, legit P5 QB.
That apparently isn’t good enough to make FCJ’s offense work.
That's not at all correct and the biggest myth portrayed by folks on this board. It's been disproven several times, yet people keep posting it like it's fact.
Slovis was a stiff in spread formations too.
That was baffling to me as well. The fact that they wouldn’t even try any of the other quarterbacks for one or two series was absolutely atrocious coaching. And I do think that some coordinators simplify their offenses to have a guy make one or two reads and if it’s not there they takeoff. I think Pat Narduzzi has always been kind a like Dabo where he’s too loyal to a quarterback that he perceives won a job. I actually think they would be better off just trying to develop Yarnell or recruiting and developing my favorite PA Prospect at quarterback Cadin Olson But I think Pat Narduzzi has shown that other than Kenny Pickett He doesn’t have time to develop a quarterback. Cignetti has a coordinator can work but Cignetti needs to just be more adaptable to game situations and get this team and the right formations and with the right play calling on first down
I think that proving he could play in a pro style offense was something Slovis was looking for.
Pitt was 8-4 and 57th out of 132 in total offense. Yeah, the offense had issues, especially the passing game, but it was far from a disaster.
What were you expecting? Did you really expect the offense to have good flow & rhythm this year? If so, why? Pitt's offense had absolutely no flow or rhythm in either 2020 or 2021 when anybody other than Kenny Pickett was playing QB. (and that was with Jordan Addison)
In the losses to Georgia Tech & Louisville, the offense wasn't very good, however they outgained both opponents, but were -3 in turnovers each game. The team was still in every game with a chance to win in the 4th quarter this year. So, while it wasn't pretty and several issues, it was at least somewhat effective, despite some obvious talent deficiencies.
Would you say it’s the offense that kept them in every game this year with a chance to win?
Or the defense combined with a bunch of horrible teams on the schedule?
These are his F+ Offensive Rankings as far as the rankings go back:
40 08
18 09
38 2010
96 2011
49 2020
85 2021
55 2022
You have to go back before anybody even heard the terms “ObamaCare” and “Instagram” for him to have done anything impressive.
Anything in recent memory has been meh to bad.
There’s nothing “neat” about the offense.
There’s nothing about it that opens anything else up and makes it tough on a defense.
It’s not just one QB away from doing something special.
40 08
18 09
38 2010
96 2011
49 2020
85 2021
55 2022
You have to go back before anybody even heard the terms “ObamaCare” and “Instagram” for him to have done anything impressive.
Anything in recent memory has been meh to bad.
There’s nothing “neat” about the offense.
There’s nothing about it that opens anything else up and makes it tough on a defense.
It’s not just one QB away from doing something special.
Do you think a QB or any position for that matter must prove himself at practice?
I used to hear it all the time on Flacco/Palko situation. But, Flacco wasn't very consistent at practice. He'd wow you one moment and then have you scratching your head afterwards. Flacco wasn't that great his 1st year at lower level Delaware either. He was good his senior year.
I'm not saying this was the exact situation with Slovis and Patti, but it usually is. Sometimes coaches will purely put trust in the guy who produce at practice. Others will extend the rope to the guy who has the most ability.
Mostly the defense, although the defense was horrible against UNC & VaTech. It didn't play particularly well against GaTech either.
I could see that however…….. there might be a handful of coaches who their coaching process in terms of how they run practices are conducive to creating an environment where they can properly evaluate who should be playing and starting. A lot of times coaches want to just install the defense and are OK with guys playing who know what the playbook is and know where to go and what to do as opposed to being able to teach guys The nuances who might be more physically gifted have better talent for have more of an upside because they say that they don’t have enough time. I’ve seen both happen and looking at the Ptit quarterback situation I’m thinking it’s a Narduzzi not feeling like he has enough time to coach up a kid in practice with the limited amount of time. A position like quarterback is very rhythm oriented and you have to allow guys to get into a rhythm to really properly evaluate them. So from what I saw from Nate Yarnell they could’ve done well to spend more time teaching him but I guess they didn’t wanna do that
The purpose of play action is to literally open other things up.
And the stats I saw had Cal's offense ranked 27 in 2008. Outside his last stint at Pitt, he has mostly coached in the NFL. Did you expect great offensive numbers at BC & Rutgers?
He's a quality offensive coordinator. He probably did as well as most any other OC would have done with what he had to work with.
Can you break down Joe Brady's resume since he coached that stacked LSU offense in 2019.
no inside info but I think they probably thought Slovis had the highest upside in the room and he would be here for 2 years. This year would be one to develop and get him to understand the playbook, next year the thought process is he would be at his best.
Other than going permanent Wildcat, Slovis likely WAS the guy with highest upside in the QB room this season; a sad statement, not (only) about Slovis, but the coaches. It seems clear some programs such as ours now are forced to promise higher profile transfers that we will start them at all costs, every game and all game, no matter how clear they suck (such as GT), to the extreme that we don’t even bring in viable backups that might generate a ‘controversy.’ Or more likely we just can’t recruit anyone else for the position (who will stay committed, anyway) worth a dam. Either way it’s a frightening statement on recruiting.
The defense was relatively fine against UNC. It just played an offense that graded out as a Top 15 offense.
BC had scrub Anthony Brown as the QB in 2019, and one of the greatest offensive dinosaurs in college football as their HC, running his prehistoric offense.
That offense finished 42 in F+ ranking.
FCJ didn’t do as well as could be expected at BC. He did nominally worse than Addazio.
Last edited:
The defense was relatively fine up until Kancey was ejected. It wasn't very good at all afterwards & was horrid most of the second half.
