Its About dam time we get some talent. And he rejected Georgetown's offer the other night.
Heron
Manigault
Great start for 2016.
Heron
Manigault
Great start for 2016.
Corey Manigault commits to Pitt
- Thread starter steel_curtain
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They did with an extended offer. This kid was starting to score at a significantly higher level the back end of the season for Paul. A lot more offers would have followed going into summer. This is a good get.
where there's "Smoke" there's fire. Hmmm, looks like Smoke can recruit outside of Michigan. we got a top 25 and a top 100 now. an this kid was picking up steam too.
Top 75-100 type player, some much needed good news..
Good get by Williamson, Mainigualt had a good group of offers mainly Big East and A-10 schools but I am glad Pitt locked him up now. Gives a nice looking PF to replace mike young in two years, and along with Heron is the start to the type of class that should quiet some of the doubters of Pitt's ability to bring in talent. I expect the new focus now to be on adding a wing in 2016, probably Beck.
Still looking at 2 ships for 2015, ideally a big and a SG.
Good get by Williamson, Mainigualt had a good group of offers mainly Big East and A-10 schools but I am glad Pitt locked him up now. Gives a nice looking PF to replace mike young in two years, and along with Heron is the start to the type of class that should quiet some of the doubters of Pitt's ability to bring in talent. I expect the new focus now to be on adding a wing in 2016, probably Beck.
Still looking at 2 ships for 2015, ideally a big and a SG.
Exactly the type of player we could have used this year. Would be great if we could nail down Diallo in this class. With Diallo, Nix and Manigault added to Mike Young as a senior we sure wouldn't get pushed around in 2017.
I actually don't think Diallo is a one and done. He isn't skilled enough at 6'8" and I doubt a Pro team would want a kid like that unless he was a 7 footer. I think he will be in school at least 2 years. Just my opinion.
Diallo is still pretty thin physically, and really has to develop his offensive game to become highly attractive to NBA teams. Not that he couldn't catch on with someone after one year, but he'd be a development project at that point. 3 years of development in college and he could be a lottery pick. He'd have to wait longer to get his money, but he'd get a lot more of it.
I hate all this Diallo talk getting my hopes up... Hope Pitt snags him somehow. If so, seem pretty set the next two seasons with returning and incoming talent.
I think the key is Hoiberg going to NBA. I think Iowa State might be the favorite for him now but Pitt is right there.
Anyway, I'm thrilled with Manigault. Just thhe type of player this program needs. Seems similar to Montrezl Harrell at the same point.
Anyway, I'm thrilled with Manigault. Just thhe type of player this program needs. Seems similar to Montrezl Harrell at the same point.
The 2015 HS class is just so weak. Exceptionally so. I can't imagine he will want to have to go against the kids from the 2016 and 2017 classes, which are regarded as absolutely loaded....and appear to be getting better.
I agree he doesn't seem to be a one and done in a normal year, but I think he has a decent chance given how weak his peers are within this one-year window.
I think he's worse than Birch at this stage of their careers. His upside is tremendous but I don't think his ranking is reflective of his current abilities as a player.
I don't believe he's much better than Damon Wilson currently, for instance.
Oh I agree, but I don't necessarily think those issues with Birch impacted his ability to contribute as a freshman. More his willingness to stick around and take his lumps. When he played, he played hard. I just don't see Diallo as even an Adams type of contributor as a frosh. More of a Birch.
When does it become real for real? At this point I don't trust any hoops commitment until they are on campus.
There seems to be an overwhelming difference of opinion on Diallo. Khem Birch averaged 4 points per game when he came into Pitt. If Diallo can't average at least that, he can forget being a Top 5 pick or even a lotto pick and probably not even a first round pick, no chance. Gordon averaged 12 / 8 as a true freshmen shooting 36% from 3. If Diallo hits those numbers, then he'll be in the lotto discussion. I doubt he hits those numbers as a freshmen, any of them, except possibly the rebound numbers.
We still need guards more than anything. Bell, Gibbs, Bridges, etc. we need these guys and at least 2 more quality guards in 2015 and 2016 along with Diallo.
Hoping for another big and/or guard in this class. If not, two guards to in the 2016 class in addition to Heron.
The 2016 recruits can use the early signing date in November like Damon Wilson did this past November or next April on the regular signing day.
Numbers are secondary to talent and projection when evalutating how you believe a player will perform at a higher level and drafting a player. If they see the latter in Diallo he will be drafted asap regardless of his numbers.
I would worry about the here and now. It is important to stop this vision of decline.
Go all out for two 5th year seniors - A guard (who has a handle) and a big (6-7+ rebounder)
Uchebo and Haughton go - 2 scholarships left for 2016 with a total of 4 for 2016. - My choices: Gibbs and Beck
Go all out for two 5th year seniors - A guard (who has a handle) and a big (6-7+ rebounder)
Uchebo and Haughton go - 2 scholarships left for 2016 with a total of 4 for 2016. - My choices: Gibbs and Beck
As far as frosh go:
1. Chris Taft
2. Cheick Diallo
3. Steven Adams
4. Khem Birch
Diallo has offensive skill. He's not totally raw like some people say. He has Birch's athleticism with SOME offensive ability. Birch had no offensive game at all. Diallo is a game-changer and is worth at least 4 extra wins next year. He'll have a better freshman year than Adams did. I saw them both play in HS/prep school.
I'm factoring major attrition.
Artis, Young, Jones, Jeter, Nix-Jr's
Wilson, Johnson-Fr
Heron, Manigault-2016
Uchebo-gone
Haughton-gone
Newkirk-gone or on thin ice
Luther-gone or on thin ice, maybe a redshirt practice player next year
Bring in: Bell, Gibbs, Bridges, Diallo, or some other guards-instant impact players, not 4 year redshirt project and development players. Ive been paying attention to Charlie Moore. He's been scoring at will and lights out shooter. I may take a gamble on him, despite the height concern. He's pretty lethal on offense and a winner at Morgan.
I suspect for each guard we get, or might get, the remaining guys would be less likely to come. Has a team ever added 4 guards like that in 1 year? Just seems awfully unlikely. If that is only what your dream is, go ahead, dream away. I just don't see it happening in reality.
Temple Gibbs is 2016, pg / sg combo
Benji Bell is a 2015 JC player with 2 years of remaining eligibility, pg / sg combo
Diallo is a Center
Miles Bridges is currently a 3 / 4 combo 2016
Moore is a pg, 2016
This post was edited on 3/17 4:16 PM by steel_curtain
