Why not just say they're similar to Dwyane Wade and Shaq while we're at it?
I don't think either will be as solid as Burton and Zanna, respectively. That's not a knock, but those were some pretty damn good players.
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Why not just say they're similar to Dwyane Wade and Shaq while we're at it?
I don't think either will be as solid as Burton and Zanna, respectively. That's not a knock, but those were some pretty damn good players.
That’s where roster flexibility comes in. If there is a bad matchup, you deploy someone else.
Is Dunn a good 3-point shooter? He seemed to be mediocre. I think you need guys who can hit from deep on the perimeter. Lowe should be good. Ish is just ok from 3 and is more Burton-like in terms of getting to the rim. That’s why I feel we need a shooter most. We have Corhen/Kante/GDG at the 4/5 right now as I see it. Ideally, yes, we get a quality 4 too. But I am more concerned about the 3 spot.
I don't believe so, but I would have to look up his stats/tape. Believe he is more of a defender and can take the ball to the hoop and an ok shooter. Yea Burton is a good analogy from what I have heard
See I don't think the 3 is an issue with Austin. Barnes and JDG (in a pinch) can also play the 3. Think the 4 is the biggest hole to fill after Dunn. Ideally another shooter maybe off the bench to fill the last spot.
The question is what do you do if we get Thiero? Move Austin to 4? Start GDG? NIL would be non existent if we land him and Dunn. So it would be Thiero or a 4 at that point
The only chance for another 3 pt threat will be Cummings. But that is ok. Here was the breakdown from 3 last year in conference play:
Ish 23/64=36%
Lowe 26/67=39%
Austin 21/64=33%
GDG 23/57=40%
Bub 42/129=32.5
Blake 71/173=41%
Ish wasn’t awful. It is also important to remember these were made without a 5 threat. Having someone who can score inside like Corhen will allow Pitt better looks from 3 for the 4 returning players averaging as a unit 37.5% from 3 in conference. Cummings is the X factor, but Fede and Jeffress really made it 4 vs 5 at times on offense. If we can get a lot more of the 3:50ish mark from Corhen, it will be a good thing.
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This is real early and I would look into this quite a bit more as things get closer and with who still gets added, but something like this I could potentially see.
Lowe- 32 Cummings 8
Leggett- 25 Cummings 12 Dunn-3
Austin- 20 Leggett - 5 Dunn- 15
Your potential minute splits are
Lowe- 32
Leggett- 30
Austin- 20
Cummings- 20
Dunn- 18
That's your potential 5 man rotation 1-2-3 right now.
That leaves Guillermo, Jorge, Kante, Corhen. Barnes plays sparingly as an undersized backup 4 with limited 3 and Ndiaye redshirts. I like Barnes as a defensive specialist with some 3 point shooting that plays bigger than his height.
With 2 ships still open.
ORTG from last season
Lowe-106
Leggett- 112
Austin- 119
Dunn- 97
Cummings- 105+ projected
Guillermo- 116
Corhen-123
Kante- 100+ projected
That should I think be an NCAA tournament team with nothing else added in right now. We have 8 respectable pieces on the roster with some depth as of today. Offensive efficiency looking at this should be pretty good. Defensive efficiency should be better than last year or at least on par with last year which finished 50th in the country.
Like the last 2 years, Im not sure what to think with Jorge or where to play him. I think he is closer to a 4 but he has to make some jump shots. Maybe we get lucky and he has a Nate Santos breakout if his 3 point shot starts falling.
Lowe- 32 Cummings 8
Leggett- 25 Cummings 12 Dunn-3
Austin- 20 Leggett - 5 Dunn- 15
Your potential minute splits are
Lowe- 32
Leggett- 30
Austin- 20
Cummings- 20
Dunn- 18
That's your potential 5 man rotation 1-2-3 right now.
That leaves Guillermo, Jorge, Kante, Corhen. Barnes plays sparingly as an undersized backup 4 with limited 3 and Ndiaye redshirts. I like Barnes as a defensive specialist with some 3 point shooting that plays bigger than his height.
With 2 ships still open.
ORTG from last season
Lowe-106
Leggett- 112
Austin- 119
Dunn- 97
Cummings- 105+ projected
Guillermo- 116
Corhen-123
Kante- 100+ projected
That should I think be an NCAA tournament team with nothing else added in right now. We have 8 respectable pieces on the roster with some depth as of today. Offensive efficiency looking at this should be pretty good. Defensive efficiency should be better than last year or at least on par with last year which finished 50th in the country.
Like the last 2 years, Im not sure what to think with Jorge or where to play him. I think he is closer to a 4 but he has to make some jump shots. Maybe we get lucky and he has a Nate Santos breakout if his 3 point shot starts falling.
Vader, do you think Kante can play the 4 at all? I seem to recall some discussion about that. A lot of posters don't think GDG can play there. But having Corhen, Kante and GDG for one position does not seem ideal. Something has to give.
Interesting insights on Corhen here, btw. https://pittsburghsportsnow.com/202...all-is-adding-in-transfer-forward-cam-corhen/
I think all 3 of them can play some 4 depending on matchups, although Kante would be the best bet from a pure defensive and rebounding perspective. With Kante you can switch everything on defense on the backline between the 4 and 5 as he is good enough and quick enough to cover, he has good positioning, foot movement, can play the hedge well, good recovery, strong on the glass etc... He is being severely underrated for what he brings to the table on defense and rebounding on this board and he has a massive 7'5 wingspan to work with. Kante has some ability to knock down midrange and 3 point shots, but sometimes he gets too shot happy with these looks. He's better scoring in the interior. However, we likely need him most at the 5 because of his rebounding ability.
With Guillermo, you have a 7 footer shooting 3s at 40%, and a lot of teams are undersized at the 4 already. He would give us a lot of length on the floor. You could maybe go zone with him, again, depending on matchups. I like his passing ability in a 4 role.
With Cohren, you have a guy that is 6'10 that can attack the midrange and make midrange shots at a pretty high level. He made 32 of them last year at 46% shooting in a reserved role. As a freshmen he made 29 of them at 47%. Thats 2 years worth of data for an underclassmen big consistently knocking down midrange to deep midrange jumpers. This guy can stretch the defense out away from the basket which can free up more space with more dribble penetration for players like Lowe and Leggett to attack downhill to the basket. He's a good finisher and I think he needs more opportunity next year and beyond given to score the ball, because I think he is considerably better on offense than a 9 points per game player.
All 3 of these guys have far more ability and flexibility to get some run at the 4 as opposed to someone like Fede who has zero offensive game outside of the dunker position and couldnt guard anyone from the midrange out to 3 because his court awareness is weak and he is to slow. Fede had enough trouble catching the ball let alone scoring on someone 1 on 1.
We have flexibility here which is a good thing. We also should have legit 3 point firepower coming from the backcourt with Cummings, Lowe, and Leggett, which should really help our offensive spacing ability. And when you have spacing it makes everything easier, especially in the interior.
These are our leading scorers in ACC Conference play "only" stats from last year
Lowe- 12ppg
Leggett- 11ppg
Cohren- 9.8ppg
Austin 6.7ppg
Guillermo 5.5ppg
Dunn 5.2ppg - Big 12 conference "only" stats
I think it is likely that Lowe is the team captain and potentially leads this team in scoring. I think it is also likely that Cohren gets a scoring bump unless we get another major addition to the team.
Yeah, Burton was All ACC First Team and received votes for ACC Player of the Year. That's a really high expectation to set for someone. Really high. And if we're saying Zanna as like a 4th year junior, OK maybe, but if we're assuming his production as a 5th year senior when he came sorta close to averaging a double double? Again that's a really high expectation.
