Corhen pulled down 2 boards tonight

[Sean Miller Fan]

And he held Ndongo under 20 rebounds. Only 17.

I am wondering under what circumstances you would actually take Corhen back next season. Like let's say he absolutely loves it here and desperately wanted to come back, I guess I would for $0 NIL and let him know that he will play 5-10 MPG in a backup role. He is very possibly the worst rebounding big in Pitt history. And he is a below average defender. What a miss!!!

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

His two rebounds were one, when he didn't even grab the ball he tipped it to a teammate (and I'm not saying he shouldn't get credit for that, just that he couldn't even actually grab it himself) and the other was on a missed Georgia Tech foul shot.

There were at least two times in the second half when he had perfect position with Ndongo on his back and the rebound actually came down in front of him and he still couldn't manage to get the ball before Ndongo got all the way around him and grabbed it. There might be a worse rebounding big in Pitt history, but I can't think of who it would be off the top of my head. And I really don't feel like contemplating something so depressing.

 

[PittAU]

Jerome Lane:
at a very generous 6’6”, averaged 5.1 rebounds per game in 1985-86. (Edited from my mistake of 9.1 RPG)
at a very generous 6’6”, averaged 13.5 rebounds per game in 1986-87.
at a very generous 6’6”, averaged 12.2 rebounds per game in 1987-88.

Jerome averaged, his sophomore and junior seasons, 5.3 offensive rebounds per game. Our leading offensive rebounder this season is GDG with 1.857 ORPG.

In 93 games J Lane averaged 10.4 rebounds per game

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

His two rebounds were one, when he didn't even grab the ball he tipped it to a teammate (and I'm not saying he shouldn't get credit for that, just that he couldn't even actually grab it himself) and the other was on a missed Georgia Tech foul shot.

There were at least two times in the second half when he had perfect position with Ndongo on his back and the rebound actually came down in front of him and he still couldn't manage to get the ball before Ndongo got all the way around him and grabbed it. There might be a worse rebounding big in Pitt history, but I can't think of who it would be off the top of my head. And I really don't feel like contemplating something so depressing.

Capel basically reiterated my take on rebounding by saying his best rebounders never even boxed out. He said Blake Griffin never boxed out. Same with Champagnie. They just had a knack for it. Ndongo is the same say. Some guys can just do it, regardless of size. Its an instinct. Yes, you should box out. But you can either rebound or you can't. Its not something you can coach or develop.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

Capel basically reiterated my take on rebounding by saying his best rebounders never even boxed out. He said Blake Griffin never boxed out. Same with Champagnie. They just had a knack for it. Ndongo is the same say. Some guys can just do it, regardless of size. Its an instinct. Yes, you should box out. But you can either rebound or you can't. Its not something you can coach or develop.

The best rebounders have an instinct for it. They see the shot and can tell in their head where the ball is going to go before it goes there. That's why the ball seems to follow them.

However, there are a lot of good rebounders who don't have that kind of instinct. They make up for it by being technically sound and working their ass off. And you absolutely can coach and develop that.

And then there are other rebounders who don't have an instinct for it and who aren't technically sound and who don't work their ass off. And those guys take 30+ minutes to get their first rebound of the game, and get two total rebounds while their counterpart on the other team is busy pulling down 17 of them.

 

[DT_PITT]

Jerome Lane:
at a very generous 6’6”, averaged 9.1 rebounds per game in 1985-86.
at a very generous 6’6”, averaged 13.5 rebounds per game in 1986-87.
at a very generous 6’6”, averaged 12.2 rebounds per game in 1987-88.

In 93 games he averaged 10.4 rebounds per game

FWIW, Blair was a pretty generous 6-7 and we know how he rebounded also.

Also, small correction. Lane averaged 9.1 POINTS per game in 87-86, but 5.1 rebounds.

It's nothing short of remarkable at times how Cam cannot get to rebounds.

 

[DT_PITT]

The best rebounders have an instinct for it. They see the shot and can tell in their head where the ball is going to go before it goes there. That's why the ball seems to follow them.

However, there are a lot of good rebounders who don't have that kind of instinct. They make up for it by being technically sound and working their ass off. And you absolutely can coach and develop that.

And then there are other rebounders who don't have an instinct for it and who aren't technically sound and who don't work their ass off. And those guys take 30+ minutes to get their first rebound of the game, and get two total rebounds while their counterpart on the other team is busy pulling down 17 of them.

I also think that Cam is not a particularly quick jumper and doesn't have great hands.

Blair used to be able to suck down rebounds out of the air.

 

[PittAU]

FWIW, Blair was a pretty generous 6-7 and we know how he rebounded also.

Also, small correction. Lane averaged 9.1 POINTS per game in 87-86, but 5.1 rebounds.

It's nothing short of remarkable at times how Cam cannot get to rebounds.

Yup, my mistake on his freshman season.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I also think that Cam is not a particularly quick jumper and doesn't have great hands.

Blair used to be able to suck down rebounds out of the air.

Yes, but that goes under instincts. The best rebounder are able to get off the floor at the exact right time to time when the ball will be in the perfect spot to grab it. Ndongo didn't practice this in a Senagalese gym his whole life. He just has the instinct. Corhen and many other guys do not. Corhen has terrible rebounding instincts. It's just not something he can do and there is no possible way you can bring him back. Perhaps more than anything, the decision to sign him over other potential transfers is the reason for this failure.

 

[PittPoker]

And he held Ndongo under 20 rebounds. Only 17.

I am wondering under what circumstances you would actually take Corhen back next season. Like let's say he absolutely loves it here and desperately wanted to come back, I guess I would for $0 NIL and let him know that he will play 5-10 MPG in a backup role. He is very possibly the worst rebounding big in Pitt history. And he is a below average defender. What a miss!!!

Nobody should be back except for Cummings and Amsal(but he won't be) and perhaps Kante. Get rid of the rest of them.

 

[PittPoker]

His two rebounds were one, when he didn't even grab the ball he tipped it to a teammate (and I'm not saying he shouldn't get credit for that, just that he couldn't even actually grab it himself) and the other was on a missed Georgia Tech foul shot.

There were at least two times in the second half when he had perfect position with Ndongo on his back and the rebound actually came down in front of him and he still couldn't manage to get the ball before Ndongo got all the way around him and grabbed it. There might be a worse rebounding big in Pitt history, but I can't think of who it would be off the top of my head. And I really don't feel like contemplating something so depressing.

Terrell Brown maybe?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Terrell Brown maybe?

I did think of him. They were pretty similar but I remember Brown being a half-decent offensive rebounder.

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

Nobody should be back except for Cummings and Amsal(but he won't be) and perhaps Kante. Get rid of the rest of them.

I'd take Lowe back as the 2 guard.