Curtis Aiken update
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My understanding from someone who would absolutely know is that Aiken is likely the third best area player in his class behind Nelly and Carmondy.
I also understand that as a recruit, it's possible that he could become a top 100 type player, but that's the high end for sure. At the moment, none of the three (Nelly, Aiken or Carmondy) are Top 150 prospects.
According to who? What do they know? Drax (or whoever was using his account at any particular time) essentially said Nelly was just shy of the 2nd coming so that's good enough for me.
Can you clarify "top 25:". Do you mean in the country, eastern region or at his position ?
I'd rather not say who, and just ask you trust me that it's a good source. It's someone more familiar with Western PA high school basketball players than maybe anyone else in the area.
DT - for the record - I was being 100% sarcastic. Was related to a previous thread about Cummings.
I don't know anyone on this board personally (to my knowledge anyway) but I've been around long enough and am perceptive enough to know the wheat form the chaff.
Oh cmon. How would this person "absolutely" know who is the best college prospect out of the 3? And you said absolutely know that he is likely. Jesus.
Sorry. Bad phrasing on my part. The "absolutely" assertion shouldn't have been made to sound as if his opinion would be certain. Instead it was meant to imply that if there is one person I know of to have a very informed and very credible opinion, it would be him.
Thanks for asking for and allowing me the clarification.
Given the lack of stature and slight build of both Aiken and Nelly Cummings, it is probably an "either-or" situation, assuming we could sign either. I doubt we would have two 5-9 or so scoring- style point guards on our roster at the same time. Especially since we don't typically recruit a scoring-style PG, but more a facilitator.
Ok, DT. You can tell me what Pitt coach told you this. I won't tell anyone,
Haha!
Actually -- it's NOT a Pitt coach -- it's someone who would know much more about local kids than Pitt coaches.
Hmm. Now you have me stumped. I'm guessing it may be a hs coach. Or hs reporter. Or super fan. Or ... I don't know.
Hmm. Now you have me stumped. I'm guessing it may be a hs coach. Or hs reporter. Or super fan. Or ... I don't know.
It's the Shadow.
The Shadow knows ...
Yeah, he's a soph in class, but like Rowan he was held back a year to help his physical development. Young Aiken may be 6-0 now. I haven't seen him for a while but if so, he's had a growth spurt and is bigger than his father.His upside in height is not great.
Curtis was a legend here and I wish his son much success. But, the endorsements of Aiken Jr. are not much different from those somewhat over the top reports on Nelly Cummings. I don't think very many basketball experts are citing either as top 25 players yet at this point of their career.
http://triblive.com/mobile/9314570-96/aiken-pitt-basketball
Somebody sent this to me...he is listed as over 6" and 45th
-Xavier clearly likes these players. And they are the king of getting underrated guards.
You may want to check how in the know this source is because Nelly is a junior while Aikens and Carmody are sophomores so he can't be rated behind Nelly in the class rank if they aren't even in the same class
You may want to check how in the know this source is because Nelly is a junior while Aikens and Carmody are sophomores so he can't be rated behind Nelly in the class rank if they aren't even in the same class
Naa ... That's my bad.
I was told who were the best players overall locally. It was me who mistakenly lumped them all into one class.
Gotcha... the positive is its nice to see some D1 players coming out of the area no matter what class they are in.
I'll be the firs to say it: His dad is awful on post-games. He would be no better than a 100-yo Dick Groat.
The post game player interviews are comical. First you have Billy and Dick frequently just making statements and not actually asking questions, which confuses the heck out of some of the new guys. Then you add Curtis, who loves to go on and on about some aspect of the game before asking a question about something completely unrelated. Good stuff.
You post game analysis is usually spot on. I appreciate the dive into the stats and how it affected the game. Your cutting rebuttals against inane comments are sublime. It is interspersed with humor and just the right amount of sarcasm. So then, what year with Kithcart be next year, sophomore?
Probably that at 5'6", he was too small to go to a top D1 school. I don't know of course, but that's a pretty strong hunch.
I don't know how to interpret the second part of the statement, but just curious, to the first point, how was he wrong (if in fact that's what he would say). Edit, oh I get the second part now. That is very specious logic. Nobody said this guy knows everything. Nobody in the world knows everything. Your doctor doesn't know everything and can be wrong sometimes, but he still knows a hell of a lot more than you. That's why you go to him. Same with the financial advisor, mechanic, etc. No scout hits 100%, that doesn't mean a guy who missed on some wild long shot that nobody saw coming is wrong on everything from that point forward. To think otherwise is illogical. Of course he could be wrong. He could be correct too. But what he thought about TJ, especially TJ, is relatively meaningless to the point at hand.
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Haha
Troublemaker!!
Well, I can't say for certain since we didn't talk then, but I know over the last five+ years that he thinks TJ is a very good player.
As a soph in high school, I'm sure he thought the same thing that each and every other person who evaluated him would have thought, which was a very good player who was 5'6", 140 pounds.
I doubt even the coach at Duquesne thought he would have been an NBA player when he recruited him. Sometimes parameters change and we are all surprised. Coppin State was Sterling Smith's only offer. I bet a lot of teams wish they had recruited him in hindsight. Of course, hindsight makes everyone a genius.
That's the crux of it kiwi. No one "absolutely" knows who's the best prospect out of 3 relatively similar talent level players this many years before college. And if that guy is the guy that "absolutely" would know wouldn't he be scouting at the college level at the very least? It's just a silly point.....
Nobody even thought he was an NBA player when he finished his sophomore year at Duquesne, and he wouldn't have been an NBA player if he was a senior at Duquesne either.
C'mom Bob.
I already said my first post about this was poorly stated. Why won't you let it go?
Perhaps "absolutely" was a slight bit of hyperbole but the people DT talks with have a infinitely more knowledge of the program and jnsight into the local and national basketball scene than virtually any of our "normal" posters.
There are always outliers and almost unbelievable transformations of players - as seen in the blossoming of a 5-6 white suburban PG into an NBA PG. As some posts have said, there is even a differece of opinion at the top of the staff about Cummings' potential. Expert predictions in any field often go awry. That's the nature of athletic competition.
No prediction is 100% certain. But, the information obtained from some of DT's sources is considerably more accurate than the postings of a couple posters who appeared on this board with the apparent agenda of pushing specific players. Or the opinions of many of our fans who often unaware of how little connection to reality much of what they post actually has. That actually is what is frequently silly. We all have opinions and frequently, all of us post stuff that is wrong at the time or becomes wrong. The exchange of information and opinions is what these boards are for.
But, I usually know who DT's sources are and I remain skeptical when a new poster appears touting a particular player. I have no problem with a friend or relative tryjng to publicize a kid, but I take most ringjng endorsements from newbies with a grain of salt.
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