Sporting News reports Diallo to Kansas.
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...ting-kansas-kentucky-st-johns-scouting-report
http://www.sportingnews.com/ncaa-ba...ting-kansas-kentucky-st-johns-scouting-report
Diallo
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Ever go to a game in Lawrence?
I have, it's the best atmosphere in the country.
And Bill self is likely one of the very best coaches there is.
I'm glad he's going there if not to Pitt.
And to most of the country, Pittsburgh isn't exactly a metropolis, either.
Kansas city is 45 minute away.
This cannot be said enough. Look, I love Pittsburgh and it has a lot going for it. But this board continually overrates its appeal as a thriving urban center.
I'm not over rating the appeal of Pitt or the city of Pittsburgh ,nor did I ever believe that Pitt was a serious contender for his services, but I do wonder what the appeal of Kansas would be for an African out of NYC. This is not a kid from the Midwest who grew up wanting to play for the jay hawks , hell I'd bet he never heard of the state let alone the coach. College recuirting is just one big cesspool and I'm almost starting to feel for the coaches who abid by the rules who have to kiss ass to try and field a competitive team. I guess a few mill a year makes up for the lousey part of the job though. I'm sure what swayed him was the atmosphere !
What does growing up wanting to play for so and so have to do with it? He started playing basketball in 2010, came to the U.S. in 2012 and started getting recruited big time shortly thereafter. Every kid who plays hoops knows the big time schools... and Kansas is right there with Duke and Kentucky as the biggest of the big right now. Everyone wants to play for those schools.
Probably didn't hurt that a similar player in a similar situation just came out of Kansas last year in Joel Embiid.
Probably didn't hurt that a similar player in a similar situation just came out of Kansas last year in Joel Embiid.
Is there anyone who really believed that Diallo might come to Pitt? I'll say this again, and Jay Bilas said it on air during one of our games in the old BE a few years ago when asked why we would go through those long, painful stretches in games where we couldn't buy a basket-Pitt doesn't get those kinds of players. Period.
He's going to be there only from June 2015 to March 2016 about 10 months give or take a few days. Plus, considering he may not be the greatest student, he probably won't have to go to class and study like Jamie would demand.
Well, actually, yeah. You don't get the GPA and APR that Pitt basketball players do by blowing off classes paying video ganes.
Given the info on his probable non-qualifier status, committing to Kansas is likely only a formality. It would be more surprising than not if Diallo ever wears a Kansas jersey.
Its funny that you can cite one example in Dixon's 13 years or whatever it is, and that player was suspended by the team for that reason.
I'm not comparing Pitt to Kansas in bb tradition but why Kansas why not any of the other top programs? I know you have to go somewhere ,but the kid spent five years on the east coast in an a large urban environment and he's going to Kansas. I've pretty much decided that elite players down to the top 100 (pick. Your # ) receive an employment package just like the top MBAs and lawyers do coming out of the top programs there's too much $$$ on the line. The $ are going to ruin college athletics.
Obviously everybody misses a class here or there, but the program gets reports on whoever misses class abd there are consequences when they miss too many. They also have madatory study halls.
As far as Gil's suspension for plagiarism on a paper, I happen to have some inside information on that. If Gil had known he supposed to use quotation marks and footnotes, he would have been fine. It wasn't a problem of cutting classes, it was not understanding he should either attribute the quote to its source or paraphrase it, not just cut and paste. If he had been a typical student, he might have been docked one grade, not suspended.
I guess it's OK if only 1 guy gets caught. Just a little bit of cheating is fine... Haven't seen any Kentucky kids suspended for academics or cheating!!
Yeah, which is just another reason Pitt is not Kentucky and never will be. And, that's not a bad thing.
Here, a kid breaks the rules, he gets suspended.
Provide a link to rules that were broken by Kentucky players that were not suspended..
Bill Self just took a raw kid from Africa and turned him into a top 3 pick after his freshman year, while the kid was hurt and known that he would miss the year. That, combined with Kansas being a top program year in and year out, has a lot to do with it.
I really can't believe there is an actual debate as to why a top 10 kid who will be one and done would choose Kansas.
You're just arguing for argument's sake. Obviously, NOT a Pitt fan I love the ignore feature.
There is NO real debate by people who have any sense at all.
Self Won, Dixon, Calipari, Mullen, Slice, Hoiberg Lost...period.
Kansas, like the other blue bloods, recruits from all over the place, not just the Midwest. They have, for years, gotten players from all over the country. They have even gotten a number of player from California over the years: Paul Pierce, Rex Walters, Jacque Vaughn to name a few off the top of my head.
They are a blueblood and any fan or player who has ever paid any attention to college basketball knows Kansas and Phog Allen Fieldhouse. Not every kid from a city wants to go to a city school. Some like the small town feel, mixed with a program who has pumped out players to the NBA. He will be there less than one year and that should help him make millions.
Joel Embiid didn't hurt, either.
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Kentucky has decades of history of scandals and violations. You find 6 major violations when you Google them. It's pretty sad when Calipari is probably not their most dishonest coach.
I'd suggest Googling the Slate article "The sleaziest coach in a sleazy game.", and then trying o imagine what the other coaches did that was worse enough they got caught.
I know exactly what I am and I know what Kentucky basketball s. And, really, so does everyone else.
That is not consistent with what I have heard of the situation.
As a student in the Dixon era, I can attest that his players do very frequently not attend classes. They have private tutors and mandatory academic sessions. That is not to imply that there is absolutely cheating, but to claim they are operating as students in the gen pop do is a fallacy.
I think the UNC fracas is a lot closer to how most schools are operating than anyone would like to admit. I think they went a bit farther there, but some level of that exists in all P-5 schools, in my opinion.
The story I got was through someone very close to Gil, who had watched him work on the paper and read several drafts. It wasn't a paper from the "frat files" or bought off the internet. It was largely cut and pasted from several references and should have used footnotes and quotatons. The prof didn't accept that but my contact insists that IS what happened.
You are very correct on tutors. Every school has them. Many athletes expect them or "study partners" to do the work for them. Some probably do. It happens everywhere and always has. I took a Psych final for a football player in the early '70's and wrote most of a paper for another.
To be truthful, it is surprising any basketball player can maintain the schedules they do and the GPA Pitt kids have. Their season starts with Midnight Madness halfway through the Fall term and continues to March, almost to Finals. I knew a guy who is still involved on the academic support side. They do monitor classroom progress closely, and Pitt puts a lot of emphasis on kids getting their degrees, not just staying barely eligible.
Is there cheating? I'm sure it happens, but probably no more than in the rest of the student body.
You are very correct on tutors. Every school has them. Many athletes expect them or "study partners" to do the work for them. Some probably do. It happens everywhere and always has. I took a Psych final for a football player in the early '70's and wrote most of a paper for another.
To be truthful, it is surprising any basketball player can maintain the schedules they do and the GPA Pitt kids have. Their season starts with Midnight Madness halfway through the Fall term and continues to March, almost to Finals. I knew a guy who is still involved on the academic support side. They do monitor classroom progress closely, and Pitt puts a lot of emphasis on kids getting their degrees, not just staying barely eligible.
Is there cheating? I'm sure it happens, but probably no more than in the rest of the student body.
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This was the scenario I was hoping for. Diallo to Kansas meant Thorne to Pitt because there's no way a kid from NC would pick Illinois and the Big Ten over the ACC and Pitt along with a chance to play at the Dean Dome........Wait. What?..........Thorne committed on the spot to Illinois before even visiting KU or completing his Illinois visit???
In all seriousness, I never mind losing a kid to a blue blood (KU, UK, Duke, UNC). It would have been hard to deal with a commitment to ISU or SJU.
Harv,
Pitt should have given you a National Champion ship ring for your contributions
Nah. Actually, that was before Majors., when we were everyboy's favorite Homecoming opponent. As I've said before, we couldn't even cheat very well. There was nothing instutionalized about the academic shenanigans then. It was friends helping friends. I'd always helped friends in high school.
Years later, I'm not proud about it. As I've said, at the time, I didn't see anything wrong with it, but eventually the win at all costs mentality became TOO costly.
Understand, age brings wisdom to us all. Likewise helped many a friend on matters that now seem wrong.
You're insane. The city is blowing up with people moving here from all over the country, we win award after award, google employees pay $3,200/month rent to live across the street from work and downtown has been on a building boom. Where do you get these insane ideas?
How does anyone, and I mean anyone, get to college not knowing how to quote something? That's basic high school stuff that gets pounded home.
And most of the city is now safe. The hood has shrunk a ton. And you can buy houses in L-Ville for $600,000+.
