Difference between Chryst and Narduzzi

[Sean Miller Fan]

Paul Chryst coaches football because he likes football and "appreciates" the kids. He is the son of an old-school D3 coach who coached at the same place forever. It was his dad's job. Narduzzi is the son of a 1-AA coach and was raised seeing of what real college football is about, the good and the bad. Chryst coaches because its a great-paying job and something fun for him. Narduzzi coaches because football is his life, his passion, he cant turn it off.

The reason I say this is because I dont feel like Chryst tried very hard recruiting here. Sure, he got a number of really good players, some highly rated, some not, found a diamond in the rough on Conner, won a blue chip battle for Boyd and did well on the OL but the majority of our classes were kids with low P5 offers and mid-major offers. It was almost like Chryst was afraid to compete with the big boys because deep down, he didn't believe in Pitt and more importantly, he didnt believe in himself. Why would a kid from Virginia pick Pitt over VT? Why waste my time when I can beat out the kid from Ohio with offers from Toledo, Akron, Purdue, and Syr?

I dont think Chryst ever believed he could win big here. He was happy to have a P5 HC job and was hoping to win enough games to keep it. I believe that Narduzzi sees Pitt and he sees non-traditional power programs like Michigan State, TCU, Baylor, Stanford, Mississippi, etc and feels there is no reason Pitt cant be like those programs. All face big obstacles but those programs made it big and he is trying for the same for Pitt.

I dont know how successful the Narduzzi tenure will ultimately be but as a diehard Pitt fan who has seen some very bad days here, I feel like we finally got our guy. And if he goes down, he's going to go down swinging. Every ounce of energy will be exhausted to make us Michigan State or Stanford. I cant say the same about Chryst.

Thanks again, Barry!

 

[PHATWOOD]

People always ask me why I'm so down on Paul Chyrst. I'm not. He's a good coach. He's not a good head coach. When you're paid two million dollars or more to compete - you have to COMPETE.

That means on the field, that means in recruiting. Chryst was a lukewarm body when it came to recruiting. He just didn't embrace the media and public relations side of things, and in today's game that's a huge part of attracting kids.

Some numbnuts will be here shortly to say "leave Paul alone, he recruited O line well and was a good guy." That's true. He also left us with nothing save Tyler Boyd at receiver, and our defense is a mess, while he allowed Franklin and others to waltz in and do whatever the hell they liked. It's going to take Narduzzi three full recruiting cycles to patch the holes that he never did or that he created himself. He was here plenty long to address some of Graham's problems.
That's why I'm down on him. If I approached my job with the same sense of urgency he did, I wouldn't be employed very long. I realize he didn't have a great administration but that doesn't mean you mail it in - not when it's your reputation.

Wisconsin had a nice year. Give it time. They'll regress under him.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

It's simple!
One ( Narduzzi) takes the bull by the horns and takes care of business while the other gets run over by the bull!

 

[SoufOaklin4Life]

We'll see in a few years.

 

[Saboteur]

It's simple!
One ( Narduzzi) takes the bull by the horns and takes care of business while the other gets run over by the bull!

Wisky came in under Pitt in recruiting. That brand in Madison has devalued already. It will get worse.
Narduzzi found the job he wanted at Pitt. PC got the training he wanted at Pitt.
All the rest of what you guys write is spot on IMHO.

 

[thebadby2]

Paul Chryst coaches football because he likes football and "appreciates" the kids. He is the son of an old-school D3 coach who coached at the same place forever. It was his dad's job. Narduzzi is the son of a 1-AA coach and was raised seeing of what real college football is about, the good and the bad. Chryst coaches because its a great-paying job and something fun for him. Narduzzi coaches because football is his life, his passion, he cant turn it off.

The reason I say this is because I dont feel like Chryst tried very hard recruiting here. Sure, he got a number of really good players, some highly rated, some not, found a diamond in the rough on Conner, won a blue chip battle for Boyd and did well on the OL but the majority of our classes were kids with low P5 offers and mid-major offers. It was almost like Chryst was afraid to compete with the big boys because deep down, he didn't believe in Pitt and more importantly, he didnt believe in himself. Why would a kid from Virginia pick Pitt over VT? Why waste my time when I can beat out the kid from Ohio with offers from Toledo, Akron, Purdue, and Syr?

I dont think Chryst ever believed he could win big here. He was happy to have a P5 HC job and was hoping to win enough games to keep it. I believe that Narduzzi sees Pitt and he sees non-traditional power programs like Michigan State, TCU, Baylor, Stanford, Mississippi, etc and feels there is no reason Pitt cant be like those programs. All face big obstacles but those programs made it big and he is trying for the same for Pitt.

I dont know how successful the Narduzzi tenure will ultimately be but as a diehard Pitt fan who has seen some very bad days here, I feel like we finally got our guy. And if he goes down, he's going to go down swinging. Every ounce of energy will be exhausted to make us Michigan State or Stanford. I cant say the same about Chryst.

Thanks again, Barry!

I was newer a believer in Chryst as Pitt HC, but this post isn't fair, and isn't right.

I think your first paragraph is nothing but unfounded speculation. From an appearance standpoint, yes, Narduzzi appears to have way more fire in his belly than Chryst. That may or may not be true, none of us on this board know. I think it's just false to suggest that PC doesn't know or understand "real college football" as you put it because his dad was a D3 coach. He comes from a college football/athletics family and has been coaching at the P5 level for 25 years. His brother Rick, who i once sat next to at a dinner table at my old college coach's NCAA football coaching HOF induction dinner, was commissioner of the MAC for 10 years and understood the money aspect of college football as well as anyone. Very sharp dude. I think PC understands the college game and its behind the scenes dynamics just as well as anyone. Most guys who make it to the P5 head coach level are extremely competitive in their own way.

Your second paragraph is flawed because Chryst never had the resources that Narduzzi now has to recruit. The real credit here goes to our new admin and AD, who gave Narduzzi the recruiting budget he needed to fly his staff around the country. Narduzzi deserves a ton of credit for capitalizing on it and working the recruiting trail hard, gong to all 4 corners of the country. Chryst was hamstrung by his budget. I think Narduzzi's efforts are more visible--and effective--because he is adept at using social media to gain exposure. Michigan State has a social media coordinator and interns who were tasked with putting out the word 24/7, and Narduzzi saw how well that worked and what a good tool it is. Chryst certainly didn't seem to have a handle on that.

I pretty much agree with your last paragraph. I don't think PC has the head coach DNA, and I think we'll see affirmation of that in a couple of years. Narduzzi is a breath of fresh air with his energy, enthusiasm and fire. He has a plan and he is executing it. I didn't see that with Chryst. The next few years shouldl be a lot of fun for us long-suffering Pitt fans.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

We'll see in a few years.

The glass is always half empty huh Skippy?

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

I was newer a believer in Chryst as Pitt HC, but this post isn't fair, and isn't right.

I think your first paragraph is nothing but unfounded speculation. From an appearance standpoint, yes, Narduzzi appears to have way more fire in his belly than Chryst. That may or may not be true, none of us on this board know. I think it's just false to suggest that PC doesn't know or understand "real college football" as you put it because his dad was a D3 coach. He comes from a college football/athletics family and has been coaching at the P5 level for 25 years. His brother Rick, who i once sat next to at a dinner table at my old college coach's NCAA football coaching HOF induction dinner, was commissioner of the MAC for 10 years and understood the money aspect of college football as well as anyone. Very sharp dude. I think PC understands the college game and its behind the scenes dynamics just as well as anyone. Most guys who make it to the P5 head coach level are extremely competitive in their own way.

Your second paragraph is flawed because Chryst never had the resources that Narduzzi now has to recruit. The real credit here goes to our new admin and AD, who gave Narduzzi the recruiting budget he needed to fly his staff around the country. Narduzzi deserves a ton of credit for capitalizing on it and working the recruiting trail hard, gong to all 4 corners of the country. Chryst was hamstrung by his budget. I think Narduzzi's efforts are more visible--and effective--because he is adept at using social media to gain exposure. Michigan State has a social media coordinator and interns who were tasked with putting out the word 24/7, and Narduzzi saw how well that worked and what a good tool it is. Chryst certainly didn't seem to have a handle on that.

I pretty much agree with your last paragraph. I don't think PC has the head coach DNA, and I think we'll see affirmation of that in a couple of years. Narduzzi is a breath of fresh air with his energy, enthusiasm and fire. He has a plan and he is executing it. I didn't see that with Chryst. The next few years shouldl be a lot of fun for us long-suffering Pitt fans.

Great reply! If someone disagrees with me, it is refreshing to see they can actually articulate the reasons why.

 

[thebadby2]

Great reply! If someone disagrees with me, it is refreshing to see they can actually articulate the reasons why.

Well I agree with your bottom line, which is that PC wasn't the man for this job, and Narduzzi is an upgrade. I also really believe that the personality of the head coach means a lot at the college level. I can say that from my own experience. Narduzzi is genuinely enthusiastic. Chryst was virtually pulseless. They are both "good guys" but Narduzzi is far more expressive, enthusiastic, wears his emotions on his sleeve. It make a difference with college level players.

So, to borrow your closing statement, thanks again Barry.

 

[9nationalchampionships]

No doubt we should send Alvarez a little gift. Something “neat"

 

[pittdan77]

True story: I know a kid that was visited by Chryst and Rudolph late in their last year. They were recruiting him to play for them, not Pitt. Approached him with a wink and a nod that they wouldn't be there the following season. His family was surprised and quite turned off by it. Long story short, I don't think they every planned on staying at Pitt or vastly improving the program.

That said, when Narduzzi says he's here to stay, I really hope that's true. I think he can make Pitt great again but I really want a guy that wants to make a name for himself at Pitt.

 

[Fsgolfdr]

Was never a PC fan ,but he was what was needed here at the time after all the f..ups that Peterson orchestrated. Just never appeared to have the energy to revive the program while Narducci does.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

True story: I know a kid that was visited by Chryst and Rudolph late in their last year. They were recruiting him to play for them, not Pitt. Approached him with a wink and a nod that they wouldn't be there the following season. His family was surprised and quite turned off by it. Long story short, I don't think they every planned on staying at Pitt or vastly improving the program.

That said, when Narduzzi says he's here to stay, I really hope that's true. I think he can make Pitt great again but I really want a guy that wants to make a name for himself at Pitt.

And to think there were folks here who were hoping Rudolph would get the job.

Chryst's recruiting was similar to Wann's and even Walts. Get a couple really good stars (Boyd, Holtz, Whitehead, Johnson) but not enough depth or quality at other positions, plus too many marginal guys that were counted on to be big contributors (Amara, Adonnis Jennings, Chris James) that didn't pan out at all.

And actually, he probably doesn't get Holtz or Johnson if not for PSU sanctions. Even Boyd was rumored as well. Foster would not have gotten away with Narduzzi on guard; no way no how.

So this stability and nice guy crap is for the birds. Chryst is exactly what his record here said he was...mediocre.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

anyone remember the form recruiting letters that Chryst sent out offering prospects the chance to play in the Big East after Pitt was already in the ACC? Remember kids saying they weren't sure if they had offers? You don't see crap like that with Narduzzi.

 

[WCSordill]

And to think there were folks here who were hoping Rudolph would get the job.

Chryst's recruiting was similar to Wann's and even Walts. Get a couple really good stars (Boyd, Holtz, Whitehead, Johnson) but not enough depth or quality at other positions, plus too many marginal guys that were counted on to be big contributors (Amara, Adonnis Jennings, Chris James) that didn't pan out at all.

And actually, he probably doesn't get Holtz or Johnson if not for PSU sanctions. Even Boyd was rumored as well. Foster would not have gotten away with Narduzzi on guard; no way no how.

So this stability and nice guy crap is for the birds. Chryst is exactly what his record here said he was...mediocre.

I thought that Jennings and James were higher star recruits that were well thought of when they were brought in. The fact that they didn't work out doesn't mean they were marginal recruits. Surely there are better examples of Chryst's marginal recruits than that.

 

[vinniep33]

The glass is always half empty huh Skippy?

Just a contrarian.

 

[thebadby2]

I thought that Jennings and James were higher star recruits that were well thought of when they were brought in. The fact that they didn't work out doesn't mean they were marginal recruits. Surely there are better examples of Chryst's marginal recruits than that.

I still think James will be a player in the right situation.

 

[MajorMajors]

I posted this before, but if you look at Wisky's class this year, it's similar to what PC brought in at Pitt. The other offers for the Wisky kids mainly came from schools like Illinois and Indiana, not Michigan and Miami.

I think that PC's offense will still be fine with those players, but Wisky's defense will decline. PC just doesn't do defense well.

Go Pitt.

 

[Jeffburgh]

He is low energy as is, but just did not have his heart in it here, that is my beef.

Agree with most, you get paid to compete, so go get it.

He may not have had the same budget or admiin support, but he still didn't fight like this.

Twitter costs literally nothing ...

Nothing was stopping PC and company from using it, and it wasn't money or the admin that had Nards and company using it like gangbusters ...

He just did not care enough.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

As I said in another thread, comparing the recruiting styles of Chryst to Narduzzi is like comparing whom you'd want on your side in a street fight: a chess master or a barroom brawler.

 

[Jeffburgh]

As I said in another thread, comparing the recruiting styles of Chryst to Narduzzi is like comparing whom you'd want on your side in a street fight: a chess master or a barroom brawler.

IMO, Nards is both ...

PC was an OFFENSIVE chess master, IMO.

 

[thebadby2]

I posted this before, but if you look at Wisky's class this year, it's similar to what PC brought in at Pitt. The other offers for the Wisky kids mainly came from schools like Illinois and Indiana, not Michigan and Miami.

I think that PC's offense will still be fine with those players, but Wisky's defense will decline. PC just doesn't do defense well.

Go Pitt.

The Wisky D took a big hit the minute Aranda left for LSU. The guy they just hired-Wilcox-is pretty well regarded. I can sense the unseen hand of BA on that hire. It will be interesting.

 

[Panther Parrothead]

IMO, Nards is both ...

PC was an OFFENSIVE chess master, IMO.

It's been said before, but Chryst is yet another example of the Peter Principle. He could be my OC anytime, but after seeing him in the role of a head coach, I don't think that he belongs there.

Unfortunately, Pitt has hired too many of those kinds of guys: Foge, Walt, and Wanny, just to name three of the most recent. All were good, solid coordinators, but all lacked that "special something" that it takes to be a good head coach.

 

[BuffetParrothead]

Narduzzi would bring a big umbrella to a pissing match and Chryst would leave his home!

That's the basic difference.

 

[Jpripper88]

I was newer a believer in Chryst as Pitt HC, but this post isn't fair, and isn't right.

I think your first paragraph is nothing but unfounded speculation. From an appearance standpoint, yes, Narduzzi appears to have way more fire in his belly than Chryst. That may or may not be true, none of us on this board know. I think it's just false to suggest that PC doesn't know or understand "real college football" as you put it because his dad was a D3 coach. He comes from a college football/athletics family and has been coaching at the P5 level for 25 years. His brother Rick, who i once sat next to at a dinner table at my old college coach's NCAA football coaching HOF induction dinner, was commissioner of the MAC for 10 years and understood the money aspect of college football as well as anyone. Very sharp dude. I think PC understands the college game and its behind the scenes dynamics just as well as anyone. Most guys who make it to the P5 head coach level are extremely competitive in their own way.

Your second paragraph is flawed because Chryst never had the resources that Narduzzi now has to recruit. The real credit here goes to our new admin and AD, who gave Narduzzi the recruiting budget he needed to fly his staff around the country. Narduzzi deserves a ton of credit for capitalizing on it and working the recruiting trail hard, gong to all 4 corners of the country. Chryst was hamstrung by his budget. I think Narduzzi's efforts are more visible--and effective--because he is adept at using social media to gain exposure. Michigan State has a social media coordinator and interns who were tasked with putting out the word 24/7, and Narduzzi saw how well that worked and what a good tool it is. Chryst certainly didn't seem to have a handle on that.

I pretty much agree with your last paragraph. I don't think PC has the head coach DNA, and I think we'll see affirmation of that in a couple of years. Narduzzi is a breath of fresh air with his energy, enthusiasm and fire. He has a plan and he is executing it. I didn't see that with Chryst. The next few years shouldl be a lot of fun for us long-suffering Pitt fans.

I disagree with much of this. I don't think Chryst was hamstrung by the budget. He hamstrung himself with his hires. He hired a staff that was not a recruiting staff. He did it all to himself and will probably suffer the same issues at Wisconsin, even with their program brand and having the entire state on lock.

Chryst is great as an OC on a staff that can recruit. As a HC he is mediocre to the core.

 

[burgerczar]

The biggest difference between Chryst and Narduzzi is the way they viewed the program. Chryst believed that Pitt was a nice little gig but would never be able to compete with the big boys again. His recruiting style showed it.

On the other hand, Narduzzi believes with his heart and soul that Pitt can be great again. His recruiting style reflected that as well. Most importantly, his bosses believe that Pitt can win big time and their financial support is a reflection of that belief.

 

[Teh Teh]

I honestly just think it is their personalities, nothing to do with passion. I am sure both are very passionate about football, probably equally. I just Narduzzi is a 'high motor guy' to use a football term, and Chryst is not.

 

[cruzer]

Paul Chryst coaches football because he likes football and "appreciates" the kids. He is the son of an old-school D3 coach who coached at the same place forever. It was his dad's job. Narduzzi is the son of a 1-AA coach and was raised seeing of what real college football is about, the good and the bad. Chryst coaches because its a great-paying job and something fun for him. Narduzzi coaches because football is his life, his passion, he cant turn it off.

The reason I say this is because I dont feel like Chryst tried very hard recruiting here. Sure, he got a number of really good players, some highly rated, some not, found a diamond in the rough on Conner, won a blue chip battle for Boyd and did well on the OL but the majority of our classes were kids with low P5 offers and mid-major offers. It was almost like Chryst was afraid to compete with the big boys because deep down, he didn't believe in Pitt and more importantly, he didnt believe in himself. Why would a kid from Virginia pick Pitt over VT? Why waste my time when I can beat out the kid from Ohio with offers from Toledo, Akron, Purdue, and Syr?

I dont think Chryst ever believed he could win big here. He was happy to have a P5 HC job and was hoping to win enough games to keep it. I believe that Narduzzi sees Pitt and he sees non-traditional power programs like Michigan State, TCU, Baylor, Stanford, Mississippi, etc and feels there is no reason Pitt cant be like those programs. All face big obstacles but those programs made it big and he is trying for the same for Pitt.

I dont know how successful the Narduzzi tenure will ultimately be but as a diehard Pitt fan who has seen some very bad days here, I feel like we finally got our guy. And if he goes down, he's going to go down swinging. Every ounce of energy will be exhausted to make us Michigan State or Stanford. I cant say the same about Chryst.

Thanks again, Barry!

Narduzzi = Fighter

Chryst = Victim

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

The biggest difference between Chryst and Narduzzi is the way they viewed the program. Chryst believed that Pitt was a nice little gig but would never be able to compete with the big boys again. His recruiting style showed it.

On the other hand, Narduzzi believes with his heart and soul that Pitt can be great again. His recruiting style reflected that as well. Most importantly, his bosses believe that Pitt can win big time and their financial support is a reflection of that belief.

This is what I was trying to say. While I'm sure Narduzzi knows national prominence comes easier at other places, he believes it can be done here. I'm not sure Chryst believed that at all which is probably be stated on numerous occasions his team had no goals, just to play their best every day and the rest takes care if itself. Narduzzi uses the term National Championship and while that seems like a pipe dream, MSU wasnt far from it this year? Why not Pitt?

 

[Saboteur]

True story: I know a kid that was visited by Chryst and Rudolph late in their last year. They were recruiting him to play for them, not Pitt. Approached him with a wink and a nod that they wouldn't be there the following season. His family was surprised and quite turned off by it. Long story short, I don't think they every planned on staying at Pitt or vastly improving the program.

That said, when Narduzzi says he's here to stay, I really hope that's true. I think he can make Pitt great again but I really want a guy that wants to make a name for himself at Pitt.

Man that pisses me off.

 

[thebadby2]

I disagree with much of this. I don't think Chryst was hamstrung by the budget. He hamstrung himself with his hires. He hired a staff that was not a recruiting staff. He did it all to himself and will probably suffer the same issues at Wisconsin, even with their program brand and having the entire state on lock.

Chryst is great as an OC on a staff that can recruit. As a HC he is mediocre to the core.

You can believe whatever you want to believe, but the fact is PC's coaching hires were a direct result of his limited budget. House was--and still is-- one of the lowest paid DCs in D-1. Only Rudolph had a salary in line with what other P5 programs were paying. As for recruiting, this may come as news to you but every program has a budget for recruiting-certain amount of money available to fund the travel, the behind the scenes personnel who collect film, data, information, schedule travel, arrange visits, coordinate social media, etc. For instance, we now have a two full time recruiting coordinators and a full time recruiting assistant. We only had one under PC and he wore two hats. We have more coaches, more admins, more grad assts., more everything. These are very important jobs and they are funded by the football budget. The strength coach under Chryst was another budget hire--he had never been a S&C coach anywhere else, just a S&C intern at Wisconsin. Now we have a proven S&C coach from Notre Dame, two full time assistant S&C coaches, and a S&C intern. You starting to get the picture?

I'm not defending Chryst, I have been critical of him since the day he was announced as Pitt HC. As I've said countless times I do not feel that he has the head coaching DNA. But I try to keep my criticisms based in fact and observation. Chryst was not a dynamic guy and he had some slugs on his staff--you get what you pay for--see Matt House--but that staff was recruiting on four cylinders while now we are firing on all 8.

The difference for PC at Wisky is Alvarez has his hands all over every aspect of that program. PC is just the faceman. He won;t be permitted to F it up. BA is a master at running a quality program on a smaller budget. If you read the transcript from PC's presser for the new DC, it's obvious that PC had no idea who the guy even was before Wisky hired him--that was BA's hire. Wilcox is an up and comer with some nice achievements under his belt already. That;s how it's gonna be at Wisky as long as BA is there, it's his program, and that will keep them OK for a while. But BA can;t stand on the sidelines and coach the team on game day. He can;t walk into a kid's living room to close on a commit--PC has to handle those things--and that's where it will eventually break down for that program.

 

[Joe Magarac]

The biggest difference between Chryst and Narduzzi is the way they viewed the program. Chryst believed that Pitt was a nice little gig but would never be able to compete with the big boys again. His recruiting style showed it.

On the other hand, Narduzzi believes with his heart and soul that Pitt can be great again. His recruiting style reflected that as well. Most importantly, his bosses believe that Pitt can win big time and their financial support is a reflection of that belief.

Bump

 

[Piranha]

The main reason he recruited fairly well early on was because of the PS Scandal. Frankie was going to destroy PC in recruiting this year had he stayed. If PN was the coach over the past 4 years, then we would have a roster filled with 4 stars right now.

 

[President Stache]

I agree that they are probably just as passionate... but not only is Narduzzi very passionate he is also very good at what he does, and has a vision that Chyst did not have.

Narduzzi got here and said "We need to upgrade facilities, coaches, uniforms, experience, etc." Then made the plan, and got it done. I think Chryst was more of a 'Awww schucks, we cant recruit because we have poor facilities, its not my fault"

So, Narduzzi is more of a doer, bottom line, that cant be argued.

 

[Jpripper88]

You can believe whatever you want to believe, but the fact is PC's coaching hires were a direct result of his limited budget. House was--and still is-- one of the lowest paid DCs in D-1. Only Rudolph had a salary in line with what other P5 programs were paying. As for recruiting, this may come as news to you but every program has a budget for recruiting-certain amount of money available to fund the travel, the behind the scenes personnel who collect film, data, information, schedule travel, arrange visits, coordinate social media, etc. For instance, we now have a two full time recruiting coordinators and a full time recruiting assistant. We only had one under PC and he wore two hats. We have more coaches, more admins, more grad assts., more everything. These are very important jobs and they are funded by the football budget. The strength coach under Chryst was another budget hire--he had never been a S&C coach anywhere else, just a S&C intern at Wisconsin. Now we have a proven S&C coach from Notre Dame, two full time assistant S&C coaches, and a S&C intern. You starting to get the picture?

I'm not defending Chryst, I have been critical of him since the day he was announced as Pitt HC. As I've said countless times I do not feel that he has the head coaching DNA. But I try to keep my criticisms based in fact and observation. Chryst was not a dynamic guy and he had some slugs on his staff--you get what you pay for--see Matt House--but that staff was recruiting on four cylinders while now we are firing on all 8.

The difference for PC at Wisky is Alvarez has his hands all over every aspect of that program. PC is just the faceman. He won;t be permitted to F it up. BA is a master at running a quality program on a smaller budget. If you read the transcript from PC's presser for the new DC, it's obvious that PC had no idea who the guy even was before Wisky hired him--that was BA's hire. Wilcox is an up and comer with some nice achievements under his belt already. That;s how it's gonna be at Wisky as long as BA is there, it's his program, and that will keep them OK for a while. But BA can;t stand on the sidelines and coach the team on game day. He can;t walk into a kid's living room to close on a commit--PC has to handle those things--and that's where it will eventually break down for that program.

I know all of what you are saying. A lot of that was Chryst deciding to go with nice guys who were familiar and not a vastly more constrained budget. Same was true in building his support staff and focusing on that area. Does Narduzzi have more support? Yep. Part of that is more coin, but a lot of that is more him making and presenting that as a priority. It was not for Chryst. I think part personality and part not really knowing what he was getting into.

You can believe whatever you want to believe.

 

[Delpanther]

I still think James will be a player in the right situation.

He's useless. You've been all wet in your assessment of his ability since day one.

 

[Delpanther]

Mumbles was no HC . Only idiots like Nerdy jand Pedey boy would have hired him.

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

PC: Paul Chryst
PN: Pat Narduzzi

PC: Came To Pitt No Choices
PN: Wants Pitt Turn Down Choices

PC: Quiet Offensive Coach
DC: Confident Defensive Coach

PC: Knows Midwest Region
PN: Knows Pitt-Ohio Region

PC: Months To Hire Staff
PN: Weeks To Hire Staff

PC: Months To Replace Staff Left
PN: Weeks To replace OC Left

PC: Alvarez Disciple
PN: DAntonio Apostle

PC: Loyal On Wisconsin Program
PN: Wants To Build Pitt Program

PC: Quiet Top 30-50 Recruiter
PN: Outgoing Top 10-30 Recruiter

PC: Phone Recruiting
PN: Social Media Recruiting*

PC: Pederson A.D. Ego
PN: Barnes A.D. Listens

PC: Great Game Day Offensive Plans
PN: Great Game Day 3 Units Plans

PC: Home Grows OL Blocker Players
PN: Build Defenses Hitter Players

PC: OC With Alvarez
PN: Complete CEO Coach

PC: Loss 2-3 Games On Special Teams
PN: Won 2-3 Games With Special Teams

PC: Good Sideline Coaching
PN: Great Sideline Coaching

PC: Good Offense Half-Time Adjustments
PN: Great 3 Units Half Time Adjustments

PC: Pitt To ACC Money Just Coming
PN: Pitt In ACC Money Already Here

PC: Coaching Only
PN: Coaching, Program & Attendnace Building Too!

PC: Nordenberg-Pederson Rebuilding
PN: Gallahger-Narduzzi Vision Winning

PC: Coaches Up Players For NFL
PN: Coaches Up Players For NFL

PC: Good Coach At Wisconsin Now
PN: Very Good Coach At Pitt Now

*(Piranha Correction Revision)

 

[Piranha]

PC: Paul Chryst
PN: Pat Narduzzi

PC: Came To Pitt No Choices
PN: Wants Pitt Turn Down Choices

PC: Quiet Offensive Coach
DC: Confident Defensive Coach

PC: Knows Midwest Region
PN: Knows Pitt-Ohio Region

PC: Months To Hire Staff
PN: Weeks To Hire Staff

PC: Months To Replace Staff Left
PN: Weeks To replace OC Left

PC: Alvarez Disciple
PN: DAntonio Apostle

PC: Loyal On Wisconsin Program
PN: Wants To Build Pitt Program

PC: Quiet Top 30-50 Recruiter
PN: Outgoing Top 10-30 Recruiter

PC: Pederson A.D. Ego
PN: Barnes A.D. Listens

PC: Great Game Day Offensive Plans
PN: Great Game Day 3 Units Plans

PC: Home Grows OL Blocker Players
PN: Build Defenses Hitter Players

PC: OC With Alvarez
PN: Complete CEO Coach

PC: Loss 2-3 Games On Special Teams
PN: Won 2-3 Games With Special Teams

PC: Good Sideline Coaching
PN: Great Sideline Coaching

PC: Good Offense Half-Time Adjustments
PN: Great 3 Units Half Time Adjustments

PC: Pitt To ACC Money Just Coming
PN: Pitt In ACC Money Already Here

PC: Nordenberg-Pederson Rebuilding
PN: Gallahger-Narduzzi Vision Winning

PC: Coaches Up Players For NFL
PN: Coaches Up Players For NFL

PC: Good Coach
PN: Very Good Coach

PC: Thinks CB radios are still in vogue
PN: Communicates with kids of today

 

[CaptainSidneyReilly]

PC: Thinks CB radios are still in vogue
PN: Communicates with kids of today

Forgot it, will put it up, thanks.