last few throws have shown limitations he is a qb that can change pace for a series not a QB. Let the MacVittie era begin
Dinucci era is not the answer
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I'd love to join the modern era and have a qb that can run. Essential to a team that is going to be out manned most games.
Of course not, but max Browne is even worse
Other than about 5 or so very persistent posters on this board I don't think anyone really thought DiNucci was the answer. I stand by what I said last week, he does some good things, but generally doesn't have a real clue where the ball is going and doesn't have near the accuracy to play QB in this offense.
Yup he maynot be the answer but hes clearly better than the Browne Statue
Which means what? Sure he may be lousy but hey, he's sure better than Max Browne!
DiNucci is not the answer, but this offense runs better and has more options with him at QB than Browne.
I would prefer to never have to see either of them ever again, unfortunately that is not an option.
Lol. That was an awful short era. And the same guys castigating Narduzzi this past week for not playing DiNucci are now calling for his head for playing him..
Play DiNucci. The O looks like an O when he's in. The answer? No. But, he should be the QB until MacVittie, Pickett, ??? is ready.
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I think if anything, Kenny Pickett might get the call next. They really like him and can it get much worse? I have to admit, I was drunk calling for Dinucci last week at Penn State, but then watched the game again on DVR and realized it was more the receivers fault that Browne, so I was okay with him starting this week. And then the first half happened...and I was happy to see DiNucci...then the second half happened, and I am ready for another change. This is going to be a really long year. If we don't turn it around next week, I don't see more than two or three wins all season.
Nobody suggested Ben is a good qb.
But he's willing to try.
Browne isn't and can't move the offense. He stinks worse
"Ben" is a turnover machine in the making. As long as he tries it's ok though.
I would stay with Max Browne. He has talent but needs a little longer in the system to put it all together.
Dinucci has more life. His mobility fits in better with our misdirection/trickery type of offense. He doesn't have the big arm, but we don't have the receivers for a big arm quarterback anyway. His decision making needs to improve and might with more experience.
To keep Browne in, you need to remove Henderson as a receiver, go to power running with play action passing on non-passing downs. Browne needs to become Alex Van Pelt with one of the RBs approximating Curvin Richards.
Where does anyone think we have a better shot at succeeding?
I think DiNucci should start next week, I'm sure Browne is pretty screwed up in the head and he's just not putting any points on the board.
You need to change the offensive game plan with DiNucci in there, he is averaging an INT every 11 attempts and has major accuracy issues. Pitt has a decent stable of backs and needs to be able to run the ball successfully to succeed.
If you can put DiNucci in the role of game manager and nothing more I think this team can win some games. If you're in the position where he has to drop back and throw the ball you're going to have trouble beating anyone.
I think Dinucci can be successful with some version of a west coast offense. Not sure how Henderson fits in here. Maybe Henderson needs to see some time at TB.
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Everyone that has seen them play has said picket looked the best in practice, but it's asking a awful lot for a true freshman to start. I would start Brown again next week once the season is basically over I would consider playing picket or tMac as one of those guys are the future
Georgia started a True Fr at ND last week. It is obvious this year is going to be a step back, and then hopefully we make a jump up the next 2 years. Why not let the talented young guys get game experience? If he is the best, then play him.
May also be a function of being multiple touchdownsdown when he's entered the game.
In fairness
I'd rather see DiNucci or McVittie in there, definitely not Pickett. If he is in fact redshirted (can't recall 100%), do NOT waste that on a lost season.
Start DiNucci. Run a triple option wishbone with Ollison, Hall and Moss. Substitute Henderson in as needed. I believe this might be our best option for a 6-6 season.
It depends if Picket is the future then you play him if he is good enough that he won't lose confidence and can improve for the next year. My reoccurring nightmare is that PN finally gets the D looking better next year but the rookie QB keeps us from going more than 6-6 or 7-5. Then his tenure could come down to one year.
My problem is that DiNucci is not a great passer, not a good decision-maker, and is a turnover machine. His attribute is that he's a good athlete and can run. But, heck, he's MAC or FCS level for everything else so if you just want an "athlete" QB who is limited in everything else, go get a true athlete.
Start him so he isn't playing down three tds from the time he steps on the field. Get the Canada offense cranking, including the read option. Use him liberally in running.
Nooch should definitely start next game. Unfortunately Browne has played his way out of that position more than Nooch has played his way into it. That's not a good situation for the program.
Agree on yours and Jeffburgh. Browne is finished mentally, at least as a starter. By the end his PT yesterday he had totally changed his throwing technique, was aiming the ball and kind of throwing like a shotput rather than his regular motion, and his downfield throws were even worse than DiNucci's. Meaning his sole supposed advantage over DiNucci had disappeared. Feel bad for him but he had a fair chance. This is a tough business. For time being, he's toast. Maybe he'd be more effective thrown into the game suddenly due to injury or a mid game change, if he wasn't given a whole week to dwell on what might happen first.
DiNucci has limitations, but assuming the younger backups are worse at this point, he needs to start for now. And deserves his own full week of prep and mindset of being the starter. As Jeffburgh said, with a scheme that takes advantage of what he brings to the table, vs trying to shoehorn him into what was planned for Browne. He might respond better, might respond worse, but nobody knows yet.
If DiNucci and Browne are not getting the job done, and Pickett indeed looks just as good or better in practice then you absolutely go to him. Georgia and Texas are playing True Fr QB's. This isn't the 60's when Freshman had to be RS.
He was a 1 star or 2 , who gave him a ship besides Yale? I know he didn't give himself one! RECRUITING!!!!
Dinucci doesn't have the arm. With him being on tape, other teams will try to jump everything when they have time prepare for him. This would cause him to through the ball up for grabs repeatedly as we have seen. If we lose to GT, they should think about punting the season and going with Pickett.
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