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Discussion on the Internet re-ACC

Just call it the Heather Lyke Conference or the Victory Heights Conference, Good at the unimportant sports, lousy at FB and men's BB.
 
Syracuse put up some impressive numbers against Washington State - I think that's the first W so far. A few more games today but it hasn't been a good run so far.

Just call it the Heather Lyke Conference or the Victory Heights Conference
It's the MAC Costal - most people just haven't figured it out yet.
 
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“Power” designation is meaningless. The top 5 ranked conference champions receive CFP automatic bids regardless of what conference they play in.

That being said, the ACC/Big 12 are obviously 3/4 in conference rank.
 
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the top 4 conference winners get a bye in first rd of playoffs, we didnt get one.
 
Anyone still comparing conference strength using bowl games into today’s world are morons. Have the kids playing didn’t even touch the field during the year. And that is for every conference.
Everything is relevant though.
 
Everything is relevant though.

Is it?

Edit: for people that want a narrative and for pr purposes, this kills the acc. From a reality standpoint from on the field, for bowl games, it shouldn’t matter because it’s not the legit teams out there anymore.

Unfortunately people like the narrative route.
 
That's the theory!
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If the ACC had won every bowl game we would be touting the ACC as the best conference in the country.

Yep. Just like we've heard bowl records touted as anti Big Ten justification in this board for years. They even did it in years when the Big Ten had winning records in the bowls.

Between the ACC not getting a bye and being the only major conference not being represented in the playoff this coming week, the ACC/SEC challenge, and a number of other things, I think this conference is slowly losing whatever small sliver of sunshine it was still clinging onto. The Big 12 jokes have officially become examples of throwing stones while living in glass houses.
 
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Is it?

Edit: for people that want a narrative and for pr purposes, this kills the acc. From a reality standpoint from on the field, for bowl games, it shouldn’t matter because it’s not the legit teams out there anymore.

Unfortunately people like the narrative route.
All I will say is if the ACC was 9-1 right now in bowls, we all would be pounding our chests about it.
 
But there not totally meaningless. So next year, what will ACC teams in preseason rankings look like? FSU sure won't be trusted, Miami is losing Cam Ward, Clemson will be in as will SMU and that's probably it.


If the ACC had done better in the bowl games, let's say 5-5, would anyone trust FSU more next year? Would Miami then not be losing Cam Ward? I mean we have to wait to see how the transfers are going to shake out, but as of right now, if the ACC went 5-5 in bowl games would we deserve to be ranked in the preseason next year? Or NC State? Or Virginia? Or, well you (hopefully) get the idea.
 
If the ACC had done better in the bowl games, let's say 5-5, would anyone trust FSU more next year? Would Miami then not be losing Cam Ward? I mean we have to wait to see how the transfers are going to shake out, but as of right now, if the ACC went 5-5 in bowl games would we deserve to be ranked in the preseason next year? Or NC State? Or Virginia? Or, well you (hopefully) get the idea.
Preseason rankings are more meaningless than bowls.
 
Preseason rankings are more meaningless than bowls.
I'd argue they are far more impactful though. If Alabama starts the season at 14 or 15 and loses three games, they are likely not even in the conversation for for a CFP spot down the stretch. Especially considering a couple of those losses. PSU's schedule was a turd - they lost to the only two good teams they played, but wormed their way up far enough in the rankings that it didn't matter. The top 5 or so ranked teams basically have a "get out of jail free" card that almost no one else has.
 
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