Win in they'll come statement should be retired. Just like Heinz Field.
Build it on campus and say goodbye to the buses. Students will be there
H2P!
Build it on campus and say goodbye to the buses. Students will be there
H2P!
Not to mention the two end zones the other side and the "fans" hanging out in the stadium near the food and beer + the club on both sides+ the fans inside the club doing stuff other than watching football!There are more than 20k people just on this side of the field.
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"now, if that's a fact, tell me, am I lying?."
Obviously not. And obviously you are nowhere near correct, as the visual evidence proves.
So the only question is, whats your motive for the slander?
True fans watch the games, not the seats.Obviously the Pitt athletic department has some work to do. They probably don't really care because they made their money on season ticket sales.
It was hard to see not even one section full. Pitt-Syracuse games just don't draw fans unless both teams are ranked. The small crowd wouldn't look as gross in a smaller stadium.
Yeah, damn you Joe and the truth. Lies are way cooler.[/QUOT
112 was pretty fullMine was
stadium holds jus under 70000. it was half full which is 35000.... u don't help recruiting by posting ass posts,,,Not crying at all. But the fact is that there were around 20,000 people there today. Maybe 25,000 tops. There's no need to lie about it and pretend otherwise. It is what it is. I enjoyed myself either way. It's all those people who have tickets that can't be bothered to show up week after week who lost out, not me.
As I've said before, it's unseemly for a University to consistently lie about something so relatively meaningless. They ought to do one of two things. Either announce the number of tickets distributed (bought and given away) and on a day like today announce 50,000 and tell anyone who bitches that from now on we are announcing tickets distributed like many others do. Or we ought to announce the actual turnstile count. And if that means that on a day like today we announce 21,000 then so be it, that's how many people were there. Instead we announce a number that is literally made up, one that has no correlation to anything other than a number that the athletic department thinks won't make it look too bad. It's silly. It's unnecessary. It ought to be below a fine University to lie about something so completely trivial in the grand scheme of things.
This is the one area that Joe (and others) continually get wrong.
Pitt reports turnstile count. People that actually entered the stadium and had a ticket scanned.
That picture isIt's like as if some of you guys don't understand how the perspective of a photograph can make a venue look much fuller than what it was. For instance here is an in-game photo that shows the section behind Pitt's bench.
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Jam packed, right?
Pitt has roughly 18,000 undergraduates at Pitt this year, of which roughly 57% percent are considered "commuters". That means there are approximately 10,260 students who live in the Pittsburgh area, who could have come to the game if they chose to do so. Of that 10,260, there may have been 500. Can we please stop making excuses for the apparent lack of interest in supporting the Pitt football team by those currently attending the school.Outside of the student section, which was understandably empty, it wasnt that bad all things considered.
I would just like to point out that we sit in section 108 as well and all I know is other then the couple that sits one row in front of us and the two women who sit directly behind us, I haven't seen the same people all year. That doesn't mean I don't believe you, but it has been frustrating to watch different people come each week.Section 108. just like every game.
There is a lot of "dead time" at Pitt games to scan the stadium. Yesterday, you could almost count the actual number of people sitting in their seats.True fans watch the games, not the seats.
Pitt has roughly 18,000 undergraduates at Pitt this year, of which roughly 57% percent are considered "commuters". That means there are approximately 10,260 students who live in the Pittsburgh area, who could have come to the game if they chose to do so. Of that 10,260, there may have been 500. Can we please stop making excuses for the apparent lack of interest in supporting the Pitt football team by those currently attending the school.
Do you have a mangina?Pitt has roughly 18,000 undergraduates at Pitt this year, of which roughly 57% percent are considered "commuters". That means there are approximately 10,260 students who live in the Pittsburgh area, who could have come to the game if they chose to do so. Of that 10,260, there may have been 500. Can we please stop making excuses for the apparent lack of interest in supporting the Pitt football team by those currently attending the school.
I blew up the picture you posted. And counted the people and the empty seats in that section (didn't count the band people on the far right).Well there's the problem right there. If you think that section shown in that picture is more than half full then there is no need for further discussion, because you can't have a rational discussion with someone who is so willing to clearly ignore the facts.
Row V, Seats 11 and 12.I would just like to point out that we sit in section 108 as well and all I know is other then the couple that sits one row in front of us and the two women who sit directly behind us, I haven't seen the same people all year. That doesn't mean I don't believe you, but it has been frustrating to watch different people come each week.
127 people (give or take 5)
86 empty seats (give or take 5)
We are closer to the field, row d. The five of us have not missed a game since Heinz Field opened. Each year, it seems a new group of people around us and then those people don't come to the games.Row V, Seats 11 and 12.
Other than the VT game where I sold my tickets to a coworker since I was out of town, I've been there every game. For the Duke game, I used a friend's club seats in 229 behind the band and my daughters sat in my Section 108 seats.
You don't see a full 12 rows of seats by 25 seats. in the picture you see many partial rows.You can see approximately 12 rows of a section where there are 21 or 22 seats in a row. Plus you can see about 25 seats in the section next to that (like you, not counting the band section). That's in the neighborhood of 280 seats total. Even you only counted 127 people (I'll take your word for it). I'm pretty sure that we don't need a calculator to figure out that 127 isn't quite half of 270, and that's in what would be one of the fullest sections in the stadium.
Like I said, it's like people don't get how looking at a photo taken on an angle can make it look like there aren't as many empty seats as there actually are. So should I thank you for proving my point, or would that get you mad?
I counted the empty seats first.
Look at this picture, Joe:And the fact that you think that you can see all the empty seats is really funny. You really don't get that a group of people sitting together block the view of the empty seats behind them?
Obviously the Pitt athletic department has some work to do. They probably don't really care because they made their money on season ticket sales.
It was hard to see not even one section full. Pitt-Syracuse games just don't draw fans unless both teams are ranked. The small crowd wouldn't look as gross in a smaller stadium.
Full? Other than the band section was there one section that was even half full? (Correct answer, no, there wasn't.)
You said that not a single section was at least half full.Like I said, it's like as if you don't understand that in pictures taken from a low angle a group of people easily blocks out the empty seats behind them. If there was one row that was completely full and the row directly behind it was completely empty the fact is that from a photo taken from that angle you would not see one empty seat in that row. That is why photos taken like that look a lot fuller than television images taken from higher up that more clearly show all the empty yellow.
I sit in the first row of the upper deck. When you sit there you can look straight down on the seats below and see all the empty seats. The funny thing is that even when you see photographic evidence and you count the people for yourself you still don't believe what you counted. I mean I get why you want to pretend that things aren't the way they are, just like Pitt likes to pretend that things aren't the way that they are. But whether you admit what you even counted on your own is the facts or not it won't change how many people were actually there. And the notion that the whole stadium was half full (which is what Pitt said) is preposterous.