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don't like to talk about attendance but it was hard to watch

There are more than 20k people just on this side of the field.

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"now, if that's a fact, tell me, am I lying?."

Obviously not. And obviously you are nowhere near correct, as the visual evidence proves.

So the only question is, whats your motive for the slander?
Not to mention the two end zones the other side and the "fans" hanging out in the stadium near the food and beer + the club on both sides+ the fans inside the club doing stuff other than watching football!
 
Obviously the Pitt athletic department has some work to do. They probably don't really care because they made their money on season ticket sales.

It was hard to see not even one section full. Pitt-Syracuse games just don't draw fans unless both teams are ranked. The small crowd wouldn't look as gross in a smaller stadium.
True fans watch the games, not the seats.
 
Not crying at all. But the fact is that there were around 20,000 people there today. Maybe 25,000 tops. There's no need to lie about it and pretend otherwise. It is what it is. I enjoyed myself either way. It's all those people who have tickets that can't be bothered to show up week after week who lost out, not me.

As I've said before, it's unseemly for a University to consistently lie about something so relatively meaningless. They ought to do one of two things. Either announce the number of tickets distributed (bought and given away) and on a day like today announce 50,000 and tell anyone who bitches that from now on we are announcing tickets distributed like many others do. Or we ought to announce the actual turnstile count. And if that means that on a day like today we announce 21,000 then so be it, that's how many people were there. Instead we announce a number that is literally made up, one that has no correlation to anything other than a number that the athletic department thinks won't make it look too bad. It's silly. It's unnecessary. It ought to be below a fine University to lie about something so completely trivial in the grand scheme of things.
stadium holds jus under 70000. it was half full which is 35000.... u don't help recruiting by posting ass posts,,,
 
We should tarp ALL the seats lube them up and turn them into slip n slides. THAT would be trippy.
 
Penn st has the worst seating that I ever been at, it's torture , a person has 10 inches of ass room, sardines is what I equal it to. Went once never again, 100,000 seats .... oh boy
 
This is the one area that Joe (and others) continually get wrong.

Pitt reports turnstile count. People that actually entered the stadium and had a ticket scanned.


That is absolutely 100% false, and that information comes from someone who is there and would know.
 
It's like as if some of you guys don't understand how the perspective of a photograph can make a venue look much fuller than what it was. For instance here is an in-game photo that shows the section behind Pitt's bench.

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Jam packed, right?
 
It's like as if some of you guys don't understand how the perspective of a photograph can make a venue look much fuller than what it was. For instance here is an in-game photo that shows the section behind Pitt's bench.

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Jam packed, right?
That picture is

A. from the 4th quarter
B. even it shows the section more than half full.
 
Outside of the student section, which was understandably empty, it wasnt that bad all things considered.
Pitt has roughly 18,000 undergraduates at Pitt this year, of which roughly 57% percent are considered "commuters". That means there are approximately 10,260 students who live in the Pittsburgh area, who could have come to the game if they chose to do so. Of that 10,260, there may have been 500. Can we please stop making excuses for the apparent lack of interest in supporting the Pitt football team by those currently attending the school.
 
Well there's the problem right there. If you think that section shown in that picture is more than half full then there is no need for further discussion, because you can't have a rational discussion with someone who is so willing to clearly ignore the facts.
 
Section 108. just like every game.
I would just like to point out that we sit in section 108 as well and all I know is other then the couple that sits one row in front of us and the two women who sit directly behind us, I haven't seen the same people all year. That doesn't mean I don't believe you, but it has been frustrating to watch different people come each week.
 
Pitt has roughly 18,000 undergraduates at Pitt this year, of which roughly 57% percent are considered "commuters". That means there are approximately 10,260 students who live in the Pittsburgh area, who could have come to the game if they chose to do so. Of that 10,260, there may have been 500. Can we please stop making excuses for the apparent lack of interest in supporting the Pitt football team by those currently attending the school.

With the exception of about five seasons Pitt football hasn't produced an enjoyable product in their lifetimes. That's why they're not showing up.
 
Had dinner with my family from northeast Ohio on thanksgiving and we started talking about the World Series. I asked how Cubs fans could be allowed to turn it into a neutral site game and also why attendance was so shitty this season. They blamed multiple factors, but the one which grabbed me was, "people were just tired of constant turnover on the team." I'm wondering if that was the case here with all of the coaching changes in the last few years.
 
Pitt has roughly 18,000 undergraduates at Pitt this year, of which roughly 57% percent are considered "commuters". That means there are approximately 10,260 students who live in the Pittsburgh area, who could have come to the game if they chose to do so. Of that 10,260, there may have been 500. Can we please stop making excuses for the apparent lack of interest in supporting the Pitt football team by those currently attending the school.
Do you have a mangina?
 
Well there's the problem right there. If you think that section shown in that picture is more than half full then there is no need for further discussion, because you can't have a rational discussion with someone who is so willing to clearly ignore the facts.
I blew up the picture you posted. And counted the people and the empty seats in that section (didn't count the band people on the far right).

121 people (give or take 5)
76 empty seats (give or take 5)

We've now figured out what the problem is. You have very poor eyesight. You also have probably lost all those "how many marbles are in the jar" type games people played as kids.
 
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I would just like to point out that we sit in section 108 as well and all I know is other then the couple that sits one row in front of us and the two women who sit directly behind us, I haven't seen the same people all year. That doesn't mean I don't believe you, but it has been frustrating to watch different people come each week.
Row V, Seats 11 and 12.

Other than the VT game where I sold my tickets to a coworker since I was out of town, I've been there every game. For the Duke game, I used a friend's club seats in 229 behind the band and my daughters sat in my Section 108 seats.
 
127 people (give or take 5)
86 empty seats (give or take 5)


You can see approximately 12 rows of a section where there are 21 or 22 seats in a row. Plus you can see about 25 seats in the section next to that (like you, not counting the band section). That's in the neighborhood of 280 seats total. Even you only counted 127 people (I'll take your word for it). I'm pretty sure that we don't need a calculator to figure out that 127 isn't quite half of 270, and that's in what would be one of the fullest sections in the stadium.

Like I said, it's like people don't get how looking at a photo taken on an angle can make it look like there aren't as many empty seats as there actually are. So should I thank you for proving my point, or would that get you mad?
 
I was excited there were guys in the row in front of me - there were only people once prior to yesterday. And they stayed in the seats and stayed to the end!
 
Arguing over a picture, like it's one of those goofy mall dot paintings where you see a sailboat if you stare at it long enough.

Now I've seen everything on this site.
 
Row V, Seats 11 and 12.

Other than the VT game where I sold my tickets to a coworker since I was out of town, I've been there every game. For the Duke game, I used a friend's club seats in 229 behind the band and my daughters sat in my Section 108 seats.
We are closer to the field, row d. The five of us have not missed a game since Heinz Field opened. Each year, it seems a new group of people around us and then those people don't come to the games.
 
There were blood stains in my section. I was in the new seats above the open end zone. Must have been some classy Stiller/Cowpie fans from a few weeks ago.
 
You can see approximately 12 rows of a section where there are 21 or 22 seats in a row. Plus you can see about 25 seats in the section next to that (like you, not counting the band section). That's in the neighborhood of 280 seats total. Even you only counted 127 people (I'll take your word for it). I'm pretty sure that we don't need a calculator to figure out that 127 isn't quite half of 270, and that's in what would be one of the fullest sections in the stadium.

Like I said, it's like people don't get how looking at a photo taken on an angle can make it look like there aren't as many empty seats as there actually are. So should I thank you for proving my point, or would that get you mad?
You don't see a full 12 rows of seats by 25 seats. in the picture you see many partial rows.

Roughly 60% of the visible seats in the photo are filled.

Ps. I counted the empty seats first. there are far fewer than there are filled seats. You're still wrong.
 
The Pitt attendance whiners are back.

Great football game.

Have you heard Pitt is now Ranked #24 in the AP Poll.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
Why do Pitt fans participate in an attendance argument? Penn St fans use that against us enough. Pitt's attendance is what it is, period. All the discussion in the world will not change that. Pitt is a college team in a pro town. It's loyalties are often shared with pro teams. It also is a small enrollment school that doesn't compare to the large, rural schools with no pro teams. Pitt will have to win big to get a significant increase, but still will only sellout against rivals or high-profile teams.
 
I will admit, I rarely sit in my seats. I have two tickets together, but a lot of times, bring additional family and friends, and go sit in the upper deck. So you'll see me in my seats during bigger games (PSU, VT), and then probably won't me the rest of the season in my seats because I'm elsewhere in the stadium.
 
That's why they should replace some yellows with pewter ones.
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Commission member Clifford Levine, a lawyer, said the panel learned about the seat color by seeing a 2-by-3-inch yellow chip of plastic, rather than seeing computer drawings of how that color would look in one seat multiplied 55,000 times. Another 10,000 seats are either pewter-colored club seats or are hidden out of sight in luxury suites.

The seat color, which is what strikes most people most forcefully about the stadium, wasn't given a lot of attention during the approval process, probably because no one on the Planning Commission recognized how strong the effect would be when they saw the plastic sample in June 2000.

In retrospect, given the huge scale of the building, Levine said, "What you don't do is paint it a bright yellow. That just makes it seem even bigger."

http://old.post-gazette.com/regionstate/20010729stadium0729p4.asp
 
And the fact that you think that you can see all the empty seats is really funny. You really don't get that a group of people sitting together block the view of the empty seats behind them?
Look at this picture, Joe:

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That is from the 1st quarter.

Please try to argue with a straight face that none of those sections were at least half full. Each of the sections in that picture are at least 70% full. Be honest. And remember... you claimed that not a single section was more than half full.
 
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Remember... according to Joe, not a single section was even half-full for the Syracuse game.
 
Obviously the Pitt athletic department has some work to do. They probably don't really care because they made their money on season ticket sales.

It was hard to see not even one section full. Pitt-Syracuse games just don't draw fans unless both teams are ranked. The small crowd wouldn't look as gross in a smaller stadium.

Dear Jimmy the nitter:

Attendance is the last outpost for losers like you who can't find anything else to dig Panther fans about...

Miami has won multiple national championships with weak attendance. It hasn't effected their recruiting either... In fact they have been much more successful than your rape enabling university.

Attendance had nothing to do with expansion. If it did, WVU would be in the ACC...

Yet attendance is treated like some hollow badge of honor by you numbskull nitters to prove relevance....

Pitt will NEVER draw as well as the bigger land grant schools....NEVER. The reasons have been discussed here and everywhere else.

Attendance is used as a dig by you loser nitters fan to cause a negative reaction.

Nice try nitter.... BTW....42-39....
 
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Like I said, it's like as if you don't understand that in pictures taken from a low angle a group of people easily blocks out the empty seats behind them. If there was one row that was completely full and the row directly behind it was completely empty the fact is that from a photo taken from that angle you would not see one empty seat in that row. That is why photos taken like that look a lot fuller than television images taken from higher up that more clearly show all the empty yellow.

I sit in the first row of the upper deck. When you sit there you can look straight down on the seats below and see all the empty seats. The funny thing is that even when you see photographic evidence and you count the people for yourself you still don't believe what you counted. I mean I get why you want to pretend that things aren't the way they are, just like Pitt likes to pretend that things aren't the way that they are. But whether you admit what you even counted on your own is the facts or not it won't change how many people were actually there. And the notion that the whole stadium was half full (which is what Pitt said) is preposterous.
 
Like I said, it's like as if you don't understand that in pictures taken from a low angle a group of people easily blocks out the empty seats behind them. If there was one row that was completely full and the row directly behind it was completely empty the fact is that from a photo taken from that angle you would not see one empty seat in that row. That is why photos taken like that look a lot fuller than television images taken from higher up that more clearly show all the empty yellow.

I sit in the first row of the upper deck. When you sit there you can look straight down on the seats below and see all the empty seats. The funny thing is that even when you see photographic evidence and you count the people for yourself you still don't believe what you counted. I mean I get why you want to pretend that things aren't the way they are, just like Pitt likes to pretend that things aren't the way that they are. But whether you admit what you even counted on your own is the facts or not it won't change how many people were actually there. And the notion that the whole stadium was half full (which is what Pitt said) is preposterous.
You said that not a single section was at least half full.

That was a lie.

What I counted in your picture proved it. the pictures I provided proved it.

Many sections were more than 50% full. the photographic evidence is clear.

Not only that, I sit in the lower level, and my section was well more than half full.
 
Joe & UPITT....you realize you are playing right into Dion/Mauti/nitters agenda by stirring the pot internally regarding attendance.
 
This thread should be deleted.

UPitt clearly shows these nitters are posting false statements for their agenda.

It's asinine it's allowed to be on a Pitt forum.

Or move it to the locker room
 
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