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Dunlap reports Veilleux likely committing to Pitt

The problem with the local media is that they've always viewed Pitt from a pro sports lens.

If you're not winning national championships, Ron Cook thinks you suck.

And I've heard Dunlap say we should be an annual fixture in the top 25. But no, we shouldn't.

Their understanding of college athletics is fairly unpolished - or at least it was. Of course, it doesn't help when you've got Penn State to the East and Ohio State to the West, share a facility with the Steelers, are in regional Notre Dame territory, have witnessed WVU be a national power for a time, etc. I think Pitt has a very hardcore following, but I can't make the leap to dubbing this a college sports town. Of course, what the hell are college sports anymore? It's all falling by the wayside anyway.

You're right. College sports doesn't exist any longer. It's all professional sports to one degree or another. These kids playing for the major schools, including Pitt, are professionals. And in a town with another professional football team already in existence, we're second fiddle.
 
The problem with the local media is that they've always viewed Pitt from a pro sports lens.

If you're not winning national championships, Ron Cook thinks you suck.

And I've heard Dunlap say we should be an annual fixture in the top 25. But no, we shouldn't.

Their understanding of college athletics is fairly unpolished - or at least it was. Of course, it doesn't help when you've got Penn State to the East and Ohio State to the West, share a facility with the Steelers, are in regional Notre Dame territory, have witnessed WVU be a national power for a time, etc. I think Pitt has a very hardcore following, but I can't make the leap to dubbing this a college sports town. Of course, what the hell are college sports anymore? It's all falling by the wayside anyway.
College football and basketball is rapidly becoming real world fantasy football.

Maybe a better example for old nerdy guys like me. For when we were kids and couldn’t play actual sports and were stuck inside, we had these table games called StratOMatic that featured cards of players from MLB and NFL. Using the players stats and dice you would assemble teams based on a ‘draft’. It differed from Fantasy leagues in that you would play simulated games against your buddies’ teams. The card stats and odds combined with dice rolls dictated your success. Both offense and defense came into play, and even injuries. The beauty (or curse if you had a good team) is that you would totally start your teams over from scratch after the end of the ‘season’. Great for the winter (before anyone cared about the Penguins, and of course there was no NBA around here). Anyway that’s increasingly what college sports appears to be headed, with the additional variable of coaches always moving about as well.
 
i know i'll come off as a Yinzer here rooting for the backup but i liked Yarnell, the little that i saw him. I hope he sticks around and is given a fair shot to win the job, maybe not this year with Jurk but in the future..

You are right, he's only been here two years and has 3 years of eligibility remaining.. the fact (or assumption) that we are bringing in another Transfer QB could be discouraging for him though..

again, he threw some good deep balls in his one start. i know the game plan was watered down against an FCS team but still, he looked more than the part..

I really cant stress enough how much i want him to start and play the whole bowl game to see what we have..
Understandable. I want to see them play the QB that gives Pitt the best chance to beat UCLA, and I highly doubt that is Yarnell.

And like you say, I absolutely hope it's not discouraging for him that Pitt is bringing in another transfer. They really have to just from a numbers standpoint alone if Patti doesn't plan on returning.

The point I was making earlier, we don't know what we have. Because what we have today may not be what we have down the road. It's batshit crazy to tell a QB that they don't fit in the future plans and encourage them to transfer. You coach the shit out of them, keep an open mind about their future development while playing the guy that gives you the best chance to win. You don't run them off or encourage them to leave.

Sonny Dykes thought his QB this year was Chandler Morris. Josh Huepel wasn't planning to hand the keys over to Hendon Hooker (wasn't even his guy) Kirby Smart never had any well laid plans to hitch his wagon to Stetson Bennett.
 
I feel he is a solid but perhaps not great QB. I would put his ceiling in line with Clifford. While I wished he’d have stayed he wouldn’t have started over Allar. Pribula(our now backup who is a true freshman)has a similar ceiling to Villeux so I do get him leaving.

If he does go to Pitt a fun game is guessing how the announcer will pronounce his name. I think I heard 4 different pronunciations
 
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I feel he is a solid but perhaps not great QB. I would put his ceiling in line with Clifford. While I wished he’d have stayed he wouldn’t have started over Allar. Pribula(our now backup who is a true freshman)has a similar ceiling to Villeux so I do get him leaving.

If he does go to Pitt a fun game is guessing how the announcer will pronounce his name. I think I heard 4 different pronunciations

I only watched about 30 seconds of his tape, but the arm talent didn't blow me away. Seemed "ok" for college. Looked like he could move a little, though, although I wouldn't call him a dual threat by any means. Maybe a "game manager" type?
 
I only watched about 30 seconds of his tape, but the arm talent didn't blow me away. Seemed "ok" for college. Looked like he could move a little, though, although I wouldn't call him a dual threat by any means. Maybe a "game manager" type?
Agree with this assessment. Nothing he did blew me away but he seems to make plays. Can he put a team on his back and beat OSU/UGA. I doubt it. Can we win many games and win with talent around him - yes. I think he will be a solid QB for whoever he goes to.
 
lol, true, and there is an army of local steeler media members. John Clayton tried and we saw what happened to him many years ago.

Even recently, why didn't anyone report how Mark Ingram couldn't see the field here but was playing significantly for KC later that same season? What happened there?
The report was he was brought in as insurance for highsmith -
Who did take a leap forward and earned more pt

It’s not more complicated than that
 
Yea I get it. I’ve always said - as have plenty of others - never stop recruiting. Cruel reality - if they find someone they like better they’re bringing him in.

Just pointing out some of the absurdity of what’s said and posted. Maybe they said they love him. Maybe they actually did, maybe it’s just hype. Maybe it’s just noise. The staff was in love with MacVittie too. So many run with stuff instead of taking it with a grain of salt. I believe there are some guys who know some stuff. I have no inside connections but even I had a tidbit or 2 over the years. People who knew people kinda thing. But most of that type of hype is just noise.
They loved MacVittie.

On kick team anyway.
 
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Not the negative Pitt coverage
I am guilty of not liking the local , so called "coverage", of Pitt. Most Newspapers in and around D1 schools keep a stream of fluff pieces going about the students that are playing football at the local university. Pitt has seen an increase in such stories, like July through November, but still I would love to see more...but I get it , Pittsburgh is a pro town...
 
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The Poni face turn was something I never expected.

But you still have guys (in addition to the usual suspects) like Madden, Kaboly, Dulac who can't help themselves in taking cheap shots at Pitt. Kaboly is a big idiot. Trying to be Madden jr, both in snarkiness and girth. His comments on Pickett always reveal his anti-Pitt bias. And Steeler "insider" Dulac, who has never broken a story that wasn't spoon fed to him by Burt. He likes to take cheap shots too. Remember when he actually tried to make his own observation and said Pickett was no where near ready to play and looking like a bad pick? This was a week or two into training camp.

So yeah, there are some bright spots in local media, but for the most part the clowns still rule the roost.

Poni started turning away from being the heel a while ago but his pairing with Mueller necessitated it. Can’t have two heels on the same show. I thought the pairing of those two would been unlistenable but it’s probably my favorite show on the fan now.
 
Agree with this assessment. Nothing he did blew me away but he seems to make plays. Can he put a team on his back and beat OSU/UGA. I doubt it. Can we win many games and win with talent around him - yes. I think he will be a solid QB for whoever he goes to.
I'm always skeptical about backup guys, but you never know. Buddy of mine who is a big PSU guy says that the word is that the other freshman QB (not Allar, the other one) looks to be #2 next year. If so, is this guy Veilleux really better than the guys that are already here? I guess we'll find out. But either way, there's a very small likelihood that Jurkovec stays healthy the entire season, so someone has to be ready to go.
 
How do you know? The dude is a redshirt freshman. How would the staff even know at this point?
They wouldn’t have pursued the BC qb if they thought they had their qb already . Next yr will be his third yr here sitting on the bench , time to move on if you want to play . It worked out ok for Flacco .
 
Understandable. I want to see them play the QB that gives Pitt the best chance to beat UCLA, and I highly doubt that is Yarnell.

And like you say, I absolutely hope it's not discouraging for him that Pitt is bringing in another transfer. They really have to just from a numbers standpoint alone if Patti doesn't plan on returning.

The point I was making earlier, we don't know what we have. Because what we have today may not be what we have down the road. It's batshit crazy to tell a QB that they don't fit in the future plans and encourage them to transfer. You coach the shit out of them, keep an open mind about their future development while playing the guy that gives you the best chance to win. You don't run them off or encourage them to leave.

Sonny Dykes thought his QB this year was Chandler Morris. Josh Huepel wasn't planning to hand the keys over to Hendon Hooker (wasn't even his guy) Kirby Smart never had any well laid plans to hitch his wagon to Stetson Bennett.

LMAO
 
Nobody on the Penn state boards is glad to see veilleux go, he just has a 5 star who is getting the keys next year. Hope he does well for you guys.
 
I've watched Sean Clifford lead the PSU offense for what seems like the past decade. Sorry but I'm not gonna trust PSU coaches to be QB whisperers. Maybe Moorhead knew what he was doing with McSorley, but his play dropped off his senior year after Moorhead left.
 
Hopefully Franklin works his magic on Allar like he did with his last 5-star stud QB Christian Hackenberg.

Hackenburg didn’t ever get a pro snap, though the Gase regime was a dumpster fire. Hackenburg is more a testament to Bill O’Brien’s ability to get the kid to his ceiling than anything else.
 
Hackenburg didn’t ever get a pro snap, though the Gase regime was a dumpster fire. Hackenburg is more a testament to Bill O’Brien’s ability to get the kid to his ceiling than anything else.
And he went downhill from that after BOB left because the nits are a juggernaut at developing QB talent. Hopefully Allar gets his Parks and Recreation degree during his time at UPS because he likely never take a snap at The NFL level either. Not to despair though, he will also likely lead the nitwits to victories over the tomato cans and bottom feeder B1G opponents the nits play every year.
 
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Hopefully Franklin works his magic on Allar like he did with his last 5-star stud QB Christian Hackenberg.
Did you ever think maybe Hackenberg was just a shorts and t shirt hero? There is a reason his replacement is still in the NFL and he is a high school coach. If it was all Franklin fault why is McSorely finishing his fourth season in the NFL? People love to rip Franklin about Hackenberg but give him no credit for turning a QB who only offer to play QB was Penn State into a NFL draft pick.
 
Did you ever think maybe Hackenberg was just a shorts and t shirt hero? There is a reason his replacement is still in the NFL and he is a high school coach. If it was all Franklin fault why is McSorely finishing his fourth season in the NFL? People love to rip Franklin about Hackenberg but give him no credit for turning a QB who only offer to play QB was Penn State into a NFL draft pick.
Good point
The 71 yards with a pick and 38.9 QBR definitely makes the point -
Psu is a gateway for 6th round picks
 
93.7 The Fan has to show support to Pitt, and other than just a few, most have recently been giving Pitt more run. Ron Cook will never buy in completely and that’s ok. The truth is. If basketball can continue with this uptick and football can stay in the 8 + wins a year, they will have plenty to be proud of across the board of their Athletic Department. Women’s basketball needs to come around too. At this point, we can continue to debate the on campus stadium subject till blue in the face. Good times.
 
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