Durkin coming back this week to coach UMD

[ThePanthers]

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...board-recommend-keeping-dj-durkin-damon-evans

Completely tone def by the board IMO.

Threatened to fire Loh if he fired Durkin.

Who knows how it will turn out, but I hope he can't get any recruits and UMD sucks.

 

[upj87]

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...board-recommend-keeping-dj-durkin-damon-evans

Completely tone def by the board IMO.

Threatened to fire Loh if he fired Durkin.

Who knows how it will turn out, but I hope he can't get any recruits and UMD sucks.

IMO, listened to him and many others and made a decision as part of an investigation and fact finding...not sure where the "deaf" comes in

 

[4upmc]

Wow that’s crazy! That’s should help us with Kaleb Boating as he is down to Pitt, MD and one other that I forgot.

How could any parent let their kid play for Durkin?

 

[upj87]

Wow that’s crazy! That’s should help us with Kaleb Boating as he is down to Pitt, MD and one other that I forgot.

How could any parent let their kid play for Durkin?

I would if that was his best offer...(Rutgers, Maryland, Kansas---I'm sending my kid to Maryland)

I understand a kid died of heat stroke during a workout...I'm no internet Quincy so I do not know the circumstances surrounding the young man's death but I am not sure the head coach would be the one at fault or even negligent. I am usually the last one to grab a pitch fork on these things...

 

[DC_Area_Panther]

I believe the narrative is it was a failure by the athletic training staff which kind of lets the coach off the hook except for the "buck stops here" concept.

 

[bwh05]

I guess there are some really bad things that came up in the investigation which is 192 pages. Surprised they kept him with the PR and recruiting ramifications

 

[Sean Miller Fan]

http://www.espn.com/college-footbal...board-recommend-keeping-dj-durkin-damon-evans

Completely tone def by the board IMO.

Threatened to fire Loh if he fired Durkin.

Who knows how it will turn out, but I hope he can't get any recruits and UMD sucks.

My opinion is that if a student gets killed and you are at least .001% responsible, you need to be fired. Keeping students alive is the bear minimum expectation of a HC. For this reason, Brian Kelly should have been fired long ago.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

Its lack of institutional control. The coach is ultimately responsible for his players and anything that happens under his watch should fall back on him at some level. Maybe he had nothing to do with this kid's death but he put the people in place that did.

 

[upj87]

Its lack of institutional control. The coach is ultimately responsible for his players and anything that happens under his watch should fall back on him at some level. Maybe he had nothing to do with this kid's death but he put the people in place that did.

lose a lot of great generals that way...do love the buzz phrases like "lack of institutional control" though. Gives it that oomph and gravitas while not really meaning much as it casts a wide wide swath of anything... Not sure two lazy trainers missing a water break for a kid who sadly perished rises to the mythical "lack of institutional control" level ( A failure to monitor occurs when those policies and procedures are in place to comply with NCAA rules, but the institution failed to fully monitor specific areas of the program for limited periods of time.)...

 

[CaptainMurphy]

lose a lot of great generals that way...

This isn't the military where there might be many levels and thousands under a general. The head coach should know his entire staff very well.

 

[CaptainMurphy]

lose a lot of great generals that way...do love the buzz phrases like "lack of institutional control" though. Gives it that oomph and gravitas while not really meaning much as it casts a wide wide swath of anything... Not sure two trainers missing a water break for a kid who sadly perished rises to the mythical "lack of institutional control" level...

Not sure why you are minimizing the staff's culpability here but hey, whatever. Its either a lack of control or institution of a bad culture around the program. Not good either way.

 

[upj87]

This isn't the military where there might be many levels and thousands under a general. The head coach should know his entire staff very well.

lose a lot of great Captains that way...

 

[ThePanthers]

I would if that was his best offer...(Rutgers, Maryland, Kansas---I'm sending my kid to Maryland)

I understand a kid died of heat stroke during a workout...I'm no internet Quincy so I do not know the circumstances surrounding the young man's death but I am not sure the head coach would be the one at fault or even negligent. I am usually the last one to grab a pitch fork on these things...

Per the report, there was a lot more than just the kid's death. I'll find a link.

 

[upj87]

Not sure why you are minimizing the staff's culpability here but hey, whatever. Its either a lack of control or institution of a bad culture around the program. Not good either way.

I'm not minimizing anything here...funny that folks that know a hell of a lot more about what went on here made a decision based on knowing a lot more than you or I know made a call on this...they are either in the know or they are pure evil...

 

[CaptainMurphy]

I'm not minimizing anything here...funny that folks that know a hell of a lot more about what went on here made a decision based on knowing a lot more than you or I know made a call on this...they are either in the know or they are pure evil...

Minimizing by stating there were a few missed water breaks...there was a hell of a lot more going on than that.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

They fire him and he sues for wrongful termination. UMD is most likely choosing the least costly option.

 

[ThePanthers]

I'm not minimizing anything here...funny that folks that know a hell of a lot more about what went on here made a decision based on knowing a lot more than you or I know made a call on this...they are either in the know or they are pure evil...

Well, one of the large boosters that have significant influence with the board was quoted as saying it was the kid's fault he died.

 

[pittdan77]

Well, one of the large boosters that have significant influence with the board was quoted as saying it was the kid's fault he died.

Nobody is quite as ready to re-assign culpability as an investor trying to protect his investment.

 

[pittdan77]

I'm not minimizing anything here...funny that folks that know a hell of a lot more about what went on here made a decision based on knowing a lot more than you or I know made a call on this...they are either in the know or they are pure evil...

It's actually reminiscent of PSU's decision to ignore the "shower incident". Just much more public.

 

[pittbb80]

I would if that was his best offer...(Rutgers, Maryland, Kansas---I'm sending my kid to Maryland)

I understand a kid died of heat stroke during a workout...I'm no internet Quincy so I do not know the circumstances surrounding the young man's death but I am not sure the head coach would be the one at fault or even negligent. I am usually the last one to grab a pitch fork on these things...

Read this and tell me Durkin was not responsible............he knew what the SC coach was all about and turned a blind eye...........\

https://sports.yahoo.com/d-j-durkin-unfathomably-still-maryland-football-coach-202236915.html

UM put winning football games above the safety of their players.

 

[pittbb80]

Well, one of the large boosters that have significant influence with the board was quoted as saying it was the kid's fault he died.

Thats disgusting!

 

[pittbb80]

I'm not minimizing anything here...funny that folks that know a hell of a lot more about what went on here made a decision based on knowing a lot more than you or I know made a call on this...they are either in the know or they are pure evil...

Like I said do a little googling and you come to the latter conclusion..........as others have stated this is similar to UPS football when they looked the other way and valued football over young boys lives. Disgusting POSs

 

[TempleBAPittMPA]

Well, one of the large boosters that have significant influence with the board was quoted as saying it was the kid's fault he died.

I guess there's an Al Lord on every board.

 

[4upmc]

Read this and tell me Durkin was not responsible............he knew what the SC coach was all about and turned a blind eye...........\

https://sports.yahoo.com/d-j-durkin-unfathomably-still-maryland-football-coach-202236915.html

UM put winning football games above the safety of their players.

Yep he sure did turn a blind eye. I don’t have a problem with hard nosed tough coaches. BUT being abusive is not acceptable. There is a big difference.

No way any informed parent can let a kid play for this POS.

 

[RaleighPittFan]

It appears that he is having a difficult time with the current players. ESPN reported that several walked out of a meeting with him.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...kin-be-retained-as-terps-head-football-coach/

 

[4upmc]

It appears that he is having a difficult time with the current players. ESPN reported that several walked out of a meeting with him.

https://collegefootballtalk.nbcspor...kin-be-retained-as-terps-head-football-coach/

Our OL coach knows the roster so he prob knows who would be worth going after. I’m sure they will have many kids leave if Durkin stays.

 

[Joe the Panther Fan]

I’m sure they will have many kids leave if Durkin stays.

They might not have a team left if he doesn't get fired. The players relate a whole lot more to their dead teammate than they do the coach that they think is ultimately responsible for his death.

 

[LeftCoastPanther]

Hopefully some good players at Maryland transfer to Pitt. I bet parents of those kids who’ll leave will press the NCAA hard for immediate eligibility.

 

[4upmc]

Hopefully some good players at Maryland transfer to Pitt. I bet parents of those kids who’ll leave will press the NCAA hard for immediate eligibility.

Yes maybe they have a few talented OL that our OL coach could get from his time at MD.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

Hopefully some good players at Maryland transfer to Pitt. I bet parents of those kids who’ll leave will press the NCAA hard for immediate eligibility.

Lol, I was thinking the same. Maybe NCAA gives em an exemption on transfers without losing a year and we get one or two.

Yeah I know, I’m shallow. What can I say.

 

[thebadby2]

“It was fun while it lasted.”

- Matt Canada

 

[BFo8]

I’m very surprised at the decision to keep Durkin, given all the evidence that had come to light. Canada quietly did a decent job keeping that team together and had them one win away from a bowl game. Now that’s all going to be shot to hell in my opinion.

I loaded up on MSU -1 this morning even with Lewerke’s uncertain status, I don’t see any way Maryland is mentally ready to play on Saturday. Had there been more uncertainty about Durkin maybe it would be different, but from what I’ve read very few people actually expected him to be back.

 

[pittbb80]

I don’t know how any kid could play for him now that witnessed what happened to their teammate. If you have any kind of talent you have options and don’t need to play for someone who loooked the other way while a lunatic essentially killed your teammate

 

[gbgpanther]

I don’t know how any kid could play for him now that witnessed what happened to their teammate. If you have any kind of talent you have options and don’t need to play for someone who loooked the other way while a lunatic essentially killed your teammate

Yea I believed the same thing about Penn State. Did not realize how wide the cover up would be . One thing to think about. A lot in Harrisburg looked the other way because they are PSU grads or get there pocket lined from that area. Similarities abound in the Maryland case
The Big Ten is about protecting there institutions more the protecting kidsplayer and abuse victims. Just ask them

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

I went over to a Maryland message board to see the reaction. And unlike the PSU situation, there seemed to be a pretty strong sentiment that their administration really messed up and embarrassed them in front of the country, all because of what a few wealthy donors wanted. Granted, it's easier to take the ethical position when your coach is 11-15 or whatever.

The other stuff like how Durkin forced an overweight player to eat candy bars while being berated by teammates and having other players binge eat to gain weight just shows why no parent should have their kid there.

 

[Slick Manager of Champs]

if by some miracle he would win the B10 no one would care and this would be forgotten.

 

[kramerica415]

Wow that’s crazy! That’s should help us with Kaleb Boating as he is down to Pitt, MD and one other that I forgot.

How could any parent let their kid play for Durkin?

I would if that was his best offer...(Rutgers, Maryland, Kansas---I'm sending my kid to Maryland)

I understand a kid died of heat stroke during a workout...I'm no internet Quincy so I do not know the circumstances surrounding the young man's death but I am not sure the head coach would be the one at fault or even negligent. I am usually the last one to grab a pitch fork on these things...

The players death was one thing but the culture created under Durkin’s watch was a contributing factor in how the player died.

Apparently he threw vomit on players, used some sort of metal weapon to inflict pain on his players while they were lifting weights and was generally verbally abusive and way over the top among other reasons cited.

 

[Zeldas Open Roof]

The players death was one thing but the culture created under Durkin’s watch was a contributing factor in how the player died.

Apparently he threw vomit on players, used some sort of metal weapon to inflict pain on his players while they were lifting weights and was generally verbally abusive and way over the top among other reasons cited.

He threw vomit on players? Where the hell are you guys getting this.

Someone else said that he made a player eat candy bars while other players humiliated him while doing this. Where do you guys read this?

I’m not saying it didn’t happen, just don’t see these ridiculous stories.

How do you throw vomit on someone? Out of a bucket like the Harlem globetrotters do with confetti? Who’s vomit is it?

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/spor...421b02-dc5b-11e8-b732-3c72cbf131f2_story.html

Brady said he read the report issued by the commission the regents assembled, aimed at getting to the bottom of how Durkin ran his program. Guess he missed the part about bizarrely motivating players with food, or showing them savage videos of animals killing each other, or creating a caste system of haves and have-nots, or humiliating them by throwing trash cans full of vomit across the room. In the world of Brady and the regents, it was Durkin’s program, but he wasn’t responsible for the behavior of those who were employed in it.

https://www.sbnation.com/college-fo...24732/maryland-investigative-report-dj-durkin

Multiple players anonymously complain that the coaching staff would subject teams during meal time to disturbing videos. According to Gus Little, this included videos of serial killers, drills entering eyeballs, and bloody scenes with animals eating animals.
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Accounts vary as to whether Mr. Court placed the candy bars on the player’s lap, dropped them at his feet, hurled them at the player, or poured a bin of them on the player and then forced the player to eat them while the rest of the team worked out.
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During the workout session, the player in question had gotten sick and vomited into the trash can. Some sources, including former players Michal (“Gus”) Little and E.J. Donahue, alleged that Mr. Court then shoved the player against a refrigerator in the gym and forced him to clean up his own vomit from the trash can, which Mr. Court had thrown across the weight room. Others state that Mr. Court just threw the can against the wall, without touching the player, and the spilled vomit was then cleaned by a staff member.

 

[MarshallGoldberg]

https://www.cbssports.com/college-f...ut-of-meeting-with-returning-coach-dj-durkin/

According to Nicole Auerbach of The Athletic and Adam Rittenberg of ESPN, three players walked out on the meeting with Durkin this morning, just hours before his return was made official.