Emotions very high after the game - players and coaches getting into it w/ FSU
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FSU had an edge all night. I was disappointed in their lack of class and that refs allowed them to bump into and be chippy with Pitt after the whistle all game. We played a terrible game and we’re still in it most of the night. Hope we get another chance against them in the conference tournament.
Refs allowed a lot of thuggy shit all night from FSU.
We didn’t play well but they were straight up thugs with zero whistle
We didn’t play well but they were straight up thugs with zero whistle
Pitt is soft as charmin. FSU knew it and took advantage of it.
It wasnt due to that. You dont dunk a ball after the losing team has conceded, especially in this day and age with NET.
All we had to do was play a good game and take it to FSU in the first half and none of this would have happened. That would have shut the FSU players and fans up real quick. But we're soft, lazy, and were outcoached from the start. And the second half was worse.
I wish this wasn't the case, but now I'm not at all optimistic about the rest of the season going forward. This team and coaches just don't have it in them. I don't see 10 more wins the rest of the season, and that's what we'll need to be on the bubble.
I wish this wasn't the case, but now I'm not at all optimistic about the rest of the season going forward. This team and coaches just don't have it in them. I don't see 10 more wins the rest of the season, and that's what we'll need to be on the bubble.
How about you show the same fight during the game
17 turnovers and getting out-battled on the boards, again.
Fight more during the game and then there are not fights after. These guys need to grow up, quickly.
Fight more during the game and then there are not fights after. These guys need to grow up, quickly.
I'd argue the opposite is true in the age of NET. You need to do everything possible keep your losses close and do everything possible to boost your margin of victory. If that means last minute dunks, then so be it. If Pitt isn't playing the NET game and not playing to the final whistle, not running back on defense (we could probably use the extra conditioning), then that is Pitt's fault.
I agree. If Pitt were up by double digits in the first half and kept or built that lead in the second half, that dunk at the end wouldn't have mattered at all. And FSU would have been beaten and run into the locker room.
If Pitt takes care of business on the court, this isn't a discussion. Pitt is to blame for the debacle and "in your face" dunk.
No, not in the last one or two seconds of the game. I have never seen a team score on a play like that, up by 10 with 1 second to go. I'm not defending Pitt's play during the game or behavior after the game, but what FSU did at the buzzer is not standard practice, even in the NET age.
Now, in the future, you can't let that happen again in you're Pitt.
Scumbag move. He should have waited until after the buzzer to dunk it and even then its a punk move. That said, I'd take Ewin on my team any day.
It's not standard practice, I'd say that's right. But with NET, margin of victory matters. I don't think you can call it meaningless under the NET system, and therefore I don't think you can call it borderline unsportsmanlike. FSU is trying to build its resume, too. The same problem happened in football years ago in the BCS system when it factored in margin of victory and encouraged last minute scores. I remember Herbstreit on Gameday throwing a laptop computer off the stage.
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Watch the full 2 minute replay and watch Hamilton in the handshake line. He turns to see what is going on and sees Ewin dunk the ball and puts his arms up like WTF. Capel saw Ish going to confront and left the handshake line to run over.
In his press conference Hamilton acted like he didn't know what happened, but he knew his guys started it with that bullshit move. That's equivalent to faking a knee in football and throwing the ball deep. That's total bush league.
I'm only disappointed someone didn't bust Ewin in his mouth after.
Oh, and who exactly is the 'enforcer' on Pitt's roster. Yeah... the ball girl, maybe.
I just mean you can't concede defensively with one or two seconds left on the game clock. I didn't mean that you have someone knock a guy's teeth out after the play.
I don't think many others players would try such a cheap move, but you have to learn that lesson.
THIS. The FSU dude dunked the ball after everybody stopped playing. Classless punk should leave been punched out.
I thought It was an immature thing to do by Ewin at best, classless at worst. That said, that was a complete overreaction by Pitt after the game, and an absolute embarrassment, imo. I'm shocked that so many here think that some clown dunking before the buzzer is a valid reason to get physical & start throwing down. If it's that big a deal, then play to the buzzer.
Sorry, but the dunk didn't warrant any of the BS that occurred afterwards.
Sorry, but the dunk didn't warrant any of the BS that occurred afterwards.
The one they had to shoot or turn it over on a shot clock violation so that one wasnt so bad but yes, we conceded that one too
That chump needed his ass beat. I respect the aggression by Capel to defend his team. Maybe it lights a spark. If you made me chose between this team or the one with Blair throwing Thabeet over his shoulder, it's no contest. We used to have a lot of tough ass players. They need more now.
Edit to add that Pitt played like a team in need of testosterone therapy Wednesday night. Any sign of aggression from them is welcomed and encouraged. But they need to bring it to the next game and every game thereafter. If that punk scoring instead of running the clock out makes the difference, then so be it. But they can't come out soft again and wait to get mad until after the game. We shall see in a short while against Clemson, who has some strong bigs.
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I thought Pitt came away looking much worse than FSU in that whole ordeal. A guy simply dunked a ball after Pitt allegedly conceded. It was a jerk move, but it was mostly immaterial. It simply changed the score by 2 points. It's not like he physically harmed or threatened anyone. That's something you let go and then use it for motivation going forward.
Also, Capel needs to light that spark long before the outcome of the game is decided. And tbh, in the case of Cam Corhen, if you come out and play soft on your former team's home court, maybe that's just who you are as a player. Not to knock the guy, but he hasn't been known the toughest competitor so far.
What the hell even was the last 40+ seconds of that game? Pitt was still trying to score. After an FSU rebound with 34 seconds left in the game, Lowe was still pressuring the ball while the rest of the team gave a half assed effort to get back. Ish & Austin didn't communicate at all and allowed FSU to go over the top and get an easy dunk. That occurred with 25 seconds left. Had Pitt wanted to concede, maybe just hold on to the ball for the last 0:25. Instead, Lowe scores with 17 seconds left. Not sure you get to do that and feel entitled that your opponent run out the clock.
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Completely agree re: Corhen. This is who he is.
Heck yes, Capel needed to light a fire sooner, but maybe he couldn't. Who knows.
I'm not a fan of ultraviolence, but this little dustup shows me they may care.
Can't know what was said that made things escalate there, but Pitt had every right to be pissed off. The game was over. Every team knows the "unwritten rule" that you just let the clock run out there. And what adds fuel to the fire is the whole NET stuff where every point counts. So, it was unfortunate that it became a bit of a melee, but I'm glad we made a point of it. You can bet that Ewin will never do that again.
Credit FSU for beating down our Panthers. Earned it. Clearly better all night. Get them back later this year or in the ACCT. Prefer Pitt's guards but loved their guards. Pitt was fortunate the one dude left the game injury and didn't return too. They wanted it more. Much more. Return the favor later and pound on them!
Then why didn't Pitt let the clock run out when they took possession with 25 seconds remaining?
It doesn't work that way. The team that's winning lets the clock run out when they have the last possession.
Right. But if the concern was the NET and not letting the deficit get over 10, that option was on the table. Isn't there a cap on margin of victory at either 10 or over 10?
FWIW, An FSU assistant looked as if he lit into Ewin right after he dunked it. You can see him headed for the handshake line and then quickly ran toward Ewin. Also, while the winning team is running out the clock, the opponent usually doesn't leave the floor or idly watch someone go from one end of the floor to the other and get near the basket 10 feet behind every defender.
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