ADVERTISEMENT

Excuses

recruitsreadtheseboards

Lair Hall of Famer
Jun 11, 2006
88,279
78,959
113
All of the excuses we have heard for Pitt sports........well......we can see that all of those constraints, both real and imagined (mostly the latter) by this fanbase can be overcome by the right coaching hire. Now this is more difficult in football than it is in basketball, but it goes to show you if you make the right coaching hire, you can really do well with your athletic programs. And you don't need to list all those excuses on why you can't just to justify the shortcomings, to mask your anger and frustration. Just a lesson moving forward when we look at our programs.
 
All of the excuses we have heard for Pitt sports........well......we can see that all of those constraints, both real and imagined (mostly the latter) by this fanbase can be overcome by the right coaching hire. Now this is more difficult in football than it is in basketball, but it goes to show you if you make the right coaching hire, you can really do well with your athletic programs. And you don't need to list all those excuses on why you can't just to justify the shortcomings, to mask your anger and frustration. Just a lesson moving forward when we look at our programs.
Bold call after 2 conference wins. I agree, but still getting ahead of ourselves a little.

That being said, we are Pitt and will never be Duke in BB now Bama in FB, for all the usual excuses.
 
All of the excuses we have heard for Pitt sports........well......we can see that all of those constraints, both real and imagined (mostly the latter) by this fanbase can be overcome by the right coaching hire. Now this is more difficult in football than it is in basketball, but it goes to show you if you make the right coaching hire, you can really do well with your athletic programs. And you don't need to list all those excuses on why you can't just to justify the shortcomings, to mask your anger and frustration. Just a lesson moving forward when we look at our programs.

Yes and no. The right coaching hire plays a huge role, but the nature of basketball is so much easier to rebuild and/or succeed outside of the blue bloods.

The right coach still has to deal with those demographic issues you’ve pointed out for football recruiting. That’s not the case for hoops.
 
Yes and no. The right coaching hire plays a huge role, but the nature of basketball is so much easier to rebuild and/or succeed outside of the blue bloods.

The right coach still has to deal with those demographic issues you’ve pointed out for football recruiting. That’s not the case for hoops.
That's true. I am not saying they are completely solveable and we can become Alabama and Duke. But the fact that a) a stance that some took that only Jamie Dixon could elevate this program into a perennial top 15, which was only supported by the Kevin Stallings Disaster, which really plummeted the program, but it was on him and b) the fact that Pitt can't occasionally mount a 10 win season in football.

As for donors.......yeah, well like we did with Capel, sometimes it is best to not go on the cheap and make an investment in the best possible candidate instead of the cheap coordinator route like we have in football.
 
That's true. I am not saying they are completely solveable and we can become Alabama and Duke. But the fact that a) a stance that some took that only Jamie Dixon could elevate this program into a perennial top 15, which was only supported by the Kevin Stallings Disaster, which really plummeted the program, but it was on him and b) the fact that Pitt can't occasionally mount a 10 win season in football.

As for donors.......yeah, well like we did with Capel, sometimes it is best to not go on the cheap and make an investment in the best possible candidate instead of the cheap coordinator route like we have in football.

Capel is a long way from turning pitt into a perennial top 15 team. I simply want pitt to go to tournaments more years than not, have a couple higher seeds, and make a run. I doubt that I will ever see the absolute sustained excellence like I saw from 2001-2011 again.
 
All of the excuses we have heard for Pitt sports........well......we can see that all of those constraints, both real and imagined (mostly the latter) by this fanbase can be overcome by the right coaching hire. Now this is more difficult in football than it is in basketball, but it goes to show you if you make the right coaching hire, you can really do well with your athletic programs. And you don't need to list all those excuses on why you can't just to justify the shortcomings, to mask your anger and frustration. Just a lesson moving forward when we look at our programs.

Basketball and football are not remotely the same. It would be easier for Duquesne to become a National Power in basketball than for Pitt to become a National Power in football. It just takes a HC. Duquesne could hire Rick Pitino tomorrow and they would become a Top 25 program. College basketball is almost solely dependent on who the HC is. Football, not so much.
 
Capel is a long way from turning pitt into a perennial top 15 team. I simply want pitt to go to tournaments more years than not, have a couple higher seeds, and make a run. I doubt that I will ever see the absolute sustained excellence like I saw from 2001-2011 again.

Obviously too soon to tell......but early on Capel looks like he can coach D like Howland/Dixon but he's brought in guards like we've never had......We'll see how recruiting goes and if he can continue to build the culture of toughness and defense.....I think he could be better than Jamie
 
Obviously too soon to tell......but early on Capel looks like he can coach D like Howland/Dixon but he's brought in guards like we've never had......We'll see how recruiting goes and if he can continue to build the culture of toughness and defense.....I think he could be better than Jamie

I think what a even more important is their defense. Yeah, scoring the ball with quick guards is great, but the lockdown defense is what impressed me most. We continue to watch teams have poor shooting nights against us, and I don’t think that is coincidence. When teams had poor shooting nights against us last year I felt like we were lucky...this year, I feel like it is because we are disruptive and so active on defense.
 
I think what a even more important is their defense. Yeah, scoring the ball with quick guards is great, but the lockdown defense is what impressed me most. We continue to watch teams have poor shooting nights against us, and I don’t think that is coincidence. When teams had poor shooting nights against us last year I felt like we were lucky...this year, I feel like it is because we are disruptive and so active on defense.
No. You’re wrong again. Offense wins. Our guards getting to the line 1000 times the other night was the difference. Any athletic guard CAN play defense. He just needs a coach that he wants to kill for to play it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: FireballZ
You have to be very careful about extrapolating results from one sport to the other. Pitt doesn't have the same disadvantages in basketball that exist in football, even if many of those disadvantages were self-inflicted over the past few decades. Pitt can absolutely win with the right coach in basketball, but it'd take more than that in football.
 
ADVERTISEMENT
ADVERTISEMENT