both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slotI’d be shocked to see either do that. Weaver because he was out all year and is just starting to get some attention again and Jones because so far he probably is playing out of a 1-2 round choice and both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
That's not even remotely true.
Pitt can lose without them just as well as they lose with them. Great players but, the effect is nil because the team is lousy.Risk of injury vs Agent’s advance and millions. Pretty simple equation.
Troll alert.Risk of injury vs Agent’s advance and millions. Pretty simple equation.
And tears a knee against Clemson?I’d be shocked to see either do that. Weaver because he was out all year and is just starting to get some attention again and Jones because so far he probably is playing out of a 1-2 round choice and both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
prepare to be shocked. Play against Clemson, tear a knee. Can you say Ray Graham?I’d be shocked to see either do that. Weaver because he was out all year and is just starting to get some attention again and Jones because so far he probably is playing out of a 1-2 round choice and both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
Why? If he’s drafted rounds 1-4, his salary is guaranteed. Tears up a knee? Over.I don't think Jones is the opt out type. Don't know about Weaver, but I would advise him to play.
My point is NFL scouts don't judge anyone by one game especially one where the players' team is horribly over-matched. They are already well aware of these two players and their entire body of work. The needle won't move much one way or the other until maybe the combine. I have a feeling Jones will be a combine hero, Weaver won't be, but Weaver may still have the greater upside and NFL career. He's just all around solid and productive, smart player, forces TOs, etc.. Jones I see as more of a pass rush specialist. They have both been very productive at Pitt, no doubt.Well that and kick ass at the combine
Every potential NFL draft pick could say the same thing and have the same concern. Why don't they all quit and just let the 2nd and 3rd stringers play?And tears a knee against Clemson?
prepare to be shocked. Play against Clemson, tear a knee. Can you say Ray Graham?
It really only applies if you are likely to be drafted in rounds 1-4 where money if guaranteed. We’ll see more of opting out.Every potential NFL draft pick could say the same thing and have the same concern. Why don't they all quit and just let the 2nd and 3rd stringers play?
Risk of injury vs Agent’s advance and millions. Pretty simple equation.
Couldn’t agree more. NFL looks at college like daycare. Just keep them alive till we get there.No NFL team will blame any Pitt player from opting out of this cluster**** of a season.
Precisely why the NFL should be required to take kids right out of HS. If they're not ready for the big leagues, they can get paid to play in a developmental league funded by the NFL.Couldn’t agree more. NFL looks at college like daycare. Just keep them alive till we get there.
Precisely why the NFL should be required to take kids right out of HS. If they're not ready for the big leagues, they can get paid to play in a developmental league funded by the NFL.
If he chooses to go to college to play as an amateur, he has to wait three years to play pro.
I'm not suggesting that it would ever happen, just what should happen.They have a totally free minor league system so why would they go and upset the apple cart and absorb the additional expense? The player's union would likely object anyway because it would be more mouths to feed.
CFB and the league created this problem by restricting when a kid can leave. As long as everyone who is cashing checks is okay with it, this is what we're left with as fans. Get used to it. Only going to get more common just like the transfer portal.
I'm not suggesting that it would ever happen, just what should happen.
how many players are ready to compete in the nfl out of high school? NBA you can get away with it because you can hide a player on a bench for a year or two but with nfl roster limits, you cant draft a player out of high school and hope he develops in a year or two so he can play down the road. heck, he's already 1/2 way thru his rookie contract by then.I personally think that there shouldn't be any limits. The only reason the rule exists is to pander to the CFB coaches who want these kids to themselves for a few years. There are guys like Bosa who were ready to play but the rules made them stick around. I don't see the point of that. We all know that's generally bad for the one person who can't profit from it.
This!I would argue any player with potential for rounds 1-4 should opt-out. Screw the NCAA and their draconian rules that do nothing but favor 10-15 "university's" athletic programs. They need to go down... hard. The entire stinking mess of college athletics needs to be blown up.
how many players are ready to compete in the nfl out of high school? NBA you can get away with it because you can hide a player on a bench for a year or two but with nfl roster limits, you cant draft a player out of high school and hope he develops in a year or two so he can play down the road. heck, he's already 1/2 way thru his rookie contract by then.
LIsten, i get it, it's a stupid rule to restrict an adult (They are adults out of high school) to make a living but realistically, i cant imagine more than one or two kids every other year even being worth a draft pick..
IMO, the rule benefits the college coaches who want the kids for their own selfish reasons, and the NFL who want three years of (free) tape after HS to help determine who they want to draft.I personally think that there shouldn't be any limits. The only reason the rule exists is to pander to the CFB coaches who want these kids to themselves for a few years. There are guys like Bosa who were ready to play but the rules made them stick around. I don't see the point of that. We all know that's generally bad for the one person who can't profit from it.
IMO, the rule benefits the college coaches who want the kids for their own selfish reasons, and the NFL who want three years of (free) tape after HS to help determine who they want to draft.
It's a perfect storm from both sides and the kids (young men) in the middle get screwed.
Yes, I should have made it clear that I was referring to the few who are ready early.They do get the opportunity to go to college and they get to play football. Both are great benefits for the majority of the kids. The few guys that are elite and are ready early are the ones who lose with this system.