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Expect Jones/Weaver to opt out next

I’d be shocked to see either do that. Weaver because he was out all year and is just starting to get some attention again and Jones because so far he probably is playing out of a 1-2 round choice and both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
 
I’d be shocked to see either do that. Weaver because he was out all year and is just starting to get some attention again and Jones because so far he probably is playing out of a 1-2 round choice and both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot

That's not even remotely true.
 
Risk of injury vs Agent’s advance and millions. Pretty simple equation.
Pitt can lose without them just as well as they lose with them. Great players but, the effect is nil because the team is lousy.
 
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I’d be shocked to see either do that. Weaver because he was out all year and is just starting to get some attention again and Jones because so far he probably is playing out of a 1-2 round choice and both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
And tears a knee against Clemson?
I’d be shocked to see either do that. Weaver because he was out all year and is just starting to get some attention again and Jones because so far he probably is playing out of a 1-2 round choice and both need to show out against Clemson to secure a good draft slot
prepare to be shocked. Play against Clemson, tear a knee. Can you say Ray Graham?
 
Well that and kick ass at the combine
My point is NFL scouts don't judge anyone by one game especially one where the players' team is horribly over-matched. They are already well aware of these two players and their entire body of work. The needle won't move much one way or the other until maybe the combine. I have a feeling Jones will be a combine hero, Weaver won't be, but Weaver may still have the greater upside and NFL career. He's just all around solid and productive, smart player, forces TOs, etc.. Jones I see as more of a pass rush specialist. They have both been very productive at Pitt, no doubt.
 
Every potential NFL draft pick could say the same thing and have the same concern. Why don't they all quit and just let the 2nd and 3rd stringers play?
It really only applies if you are likely to be drafted in rounds 1-4 where money if guaranteed. We’ll see more of opting out.
 
Yeah, I think all potential draft picks should opt out in November. Only seems fair---not like they are part of team right now. :rolleyes:
 
I would argue any player with potential for rounds 1-4 should opt-out. Screw the NCAA and their draconian rules that do nothing but favor 10-15 "university's" athletic programs. They need to go down... hard. The entire stinking mess of college athletics needs to be blown up.
 
The times they are a changing. At one time you could not transfer. At one time you could transfer but had to sit a year. At one time you could not be drafted unless you had 4 years in college. Face it Paris is not the first nor will he be the last.
 
Couldn’t agree more. NFL looks at college like daycare. Just keep them alive till we get there.
Precisely why the NFL should be required to take kids right out of HS. If they're not ready for the big leagues, they can get paid to play in a developmental league funded by the NFL.

If he chooses to go to college to play as an amateur, he has to wait three years to play pro.
 
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Precisely why the NFL should be required to take kids right out of HS. If they're not ready for the big leagues, they can get paid to play in a developmental league funded by the NFL.

If he chooses to go to college to play as an amateur, he has to wait three years to play pro.

They have a totally free minor league system so why would they go and upset the apple cart and absorb the additional expense? The player's union would likely object anyway because it would be more mouths to feed.

CFB and the league created this problem by restricting when a kid can leave. As long as everyone who is cashing checks is okay with it, this is what we're left with as fans. Get used to it. Only going to get more common just like the transfer portal.
 
They have a totally free minor league system so why would they go and upset the apple cart and absorb the additional expense? The player's union would likely object anyway because it would be more mouths to feed.

CFB and the league created this problem by restricting when a kid can leave. As long as everyone who is cashing checks is okay with it, this is what we're left with as fans. Get used to it. Only going to get more common just like the transfer portal.
I'm not suggesting that it would ever happen, just what should happen.
 
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I'm not suggesting that it would ever happen, just what should happen.

I personally think that there shouldn't be any limits. The only reason the rule exists is to pander to the CFB coaches who want these kids to themselves for a few years. There are guys like Bosa who were ready to play but the rules made them stick around. I don't see the point of that. We all know that's generally bad for the one person who can't profit from it.
 
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I personally think that there shouldn't be any limits. The only reason the rule exists is to pander to the CFB coaches who want these kids to themselves for a few years. There are guys like Bosa who were ready to play but the rules made them stick around. I don't see the point of that. We all know that's generally bad for the one person who can't profit from it.
how many players are ready to compete in the nfl out of high school? NBA you can get away with it because you can hide a player on a bench for a year or two but with nfl roster limits, you cant draft a player out of high school and hope he develops in a year or two so he can play down the road. heck, he's already 1/2 way thru his rookie contract by then.

LIsten, i get it, it's a stupid rule to restrict an adult (They are adults out of high school) to make a living but realistically, i cant imagine more than one or two kids every other year even being worth a draft pick..
 
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I would argue any player with potential for rounds 1-4 should opt-out. Screw the NCAA and their draconian rules that do nothing but favor 10-15 "university's" athletic programs. They need to go down... hard. The entire stinking mess of college athletics needs to be blown up.
This!
 
how many players are ready to compete in the nfl out of high school? NBA you can get away with it because you can hide a player on a bench for a year or two but with nfl roster limits, you cant draft a player out of high school and hope he develops in a year or two so he can play down the road. heck, he's already 1/2 way thru his rookie contract by then.

LIsten, i get it, it's a stupid rule to restrict an adult (They are adults out of high school) to make a living but realistically, i cant imagine more than one or two kids every other year even being worth a draft pick..

I don't think a HS kid will be ready. Kicker maybe? But the greater issues is still true. There shouldn't be restrictions.
 
I personally think that there shouldn't be any limits. The only reason the rule exists is to pander to the CFB coaches who want these kids to themselves for a few years. There are guys like Bosa who were ready to play but the rules made them stick around. I don't see the point of that. We all know that's generally bad for the one person who can't profit from it.
IMO, the rule benefits the college coaches who want the kids for their own selfish reasons, and the NFL who want three years of (free) tape after HS to help determine who they want to draft.

It's a perfect storm from both sides and the kids (young men) in the middle get screwed.
 
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IMO, the rule benefits the college coaches who want the kids for their own selfish reasons, and the NFL who want three years of (free) tape after HS to help determine who they want to draft.

It's a perfect storm from both sides and the kids (young men) in the middle get screwed.

They do get the opportunity to go to college and they get to play football. Both are great benefits for the majority of the kids. The few guys that are elite and are ready early are the ones who lose with this system.
 
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They do get the opportunity to go to college and they get to play football. Both are great benefits for the majority of the kids. The few guys that are elite and are ready early are the ones who lose with this system.
Yes, I should have made it clear that I was referring to the few who are ready early.

I would have loved to have extended my playing days while getting a free education.
 
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