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Fences - Filmed in Hill District

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The movie was based on August Wilson's playwrights. At one time the South Side, Lawrenceville, East Liberty, etc. were all run down areas. Has Pitt ever looked into expanding their campus into the outskirts of the Hill. You could do it near the Cost Center and the Athletic Complex? Academic buildings, student housing, etc.
 
The new bubble is actually bordering Center but highly elevated. The one concern with moving more towards the hill is ironic because it is hilly. You would have to connect buildings at different levels like Duquesne does. I would rather move towards South Oskland and Hazeleood. We are land locked in every direction.
 
I agree but isn't it too late to participate in the grand plan for the Hazelwood development?
It is not too late. There will be opportunities for office/research/classroom space in the multi-use development that is being projected. There are also discussions for a transit connection from the site to Oakland, via Panther Hollow, which would complement Pitt, or CMU, facilities. (No place for a stadium, though.)
 
Hazelwood real estate is basically all boyght up already in anticipation of the build up.
 
Did the URA not offer the land up to Pitt or did Pitt have no interest in it? I'm guessing the former as it would have been off the tax rolls. It would have been the perfect and most logical space for campus expansion. But I'm sure the city didn't care about that.

Is that area flood-prone?
 
Anywhere Pitt expands ends up being a long-term, knock-down, bare knuckles political nightmare. The city and URA, historically, don't want Pitt to get a single extra acre.

Pitt got about half of what it wanted in the Robinson Court Complex and that took a decade.
 
That is a shame since PITT is a good civic partner. Maybe after the city annexes Mt Oliver and Wilkinsburg it may be easier.

Anywhere Pitt expands ends up being a long-term, knock-down, bare knuckles political nightmare. The city and URA, historically, don't want Pitt to get a single extra acre.

Pitt got about half of what it wanted in the Robinson Court Complex and that took a decade.
 
I agree but isn't it too late to participate in the grand plan for the Hazelwood development?
this land was bought about 15 years ago, stories of grand plans of upscale condos with tech start up companies.. Sounds great, sounded great 5 years ago when they said construction would be starting soon... I am sure it will sound great in 5 years from now when they tell us it will be starting construction soon..

http://www.nextpittsburgh.com/city-design/mill-19-hazelwood/
 
Did the URA not offer the land up to Pitt or did Pitt have no interest in it? I'm guessing the former as it would have been off the tax rolls. It would have been the perfect and most logical space for campus expansion. But I'm sure the city didn't care about that.

Is that area flood-prone?
The URA has nothing to do with this land. It was bought from LTV by a group of local foundations, with the intent of turning it into a mixed-use development which would enhance the existing neighborhood, as well as the City in general.
 
this land was bought about 15 years ago, stories of grand plans of upscale condos with tech start up companies.. Sounds great, sounded great 5 years ago when they said construction would be starting soon... I am sure it will sound great in 5 years from now when they tell us it will be starting construction soon..

http://www.nextpittsburgh.com/city-design/mill-19-hazelwood/
The infrastructure is well under way, Uber is currently operating a test track and about to begin renovating a building for its offices, and the RIDC project you reference is slated to begin in the next month or so.
 
The movie was based on August Wilson's playwrights. At one time the South Side, Lawrenceville, East Liberty, etc. were all run down areas. Has Pitt ever looked into expanding their campus into the outskirts of the Hill. You could do it near the Cost Center and the Athletic Complex? Academic buildings, student housing, etc.
My son worked on this movie---has much respect for Denzel
 
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The URA has nothing to do with this land. It was bought from LTV by a group of local foundations, with the intent of turning it into a mixed-use development which would enhance the existing neighborhood, as well as the City in general.

But don't we already have enough of these low density mixed-use developments elsewhere around the city? Did another one need to go up on this plot? I'm not saying Pitt had any interest in the LTV site but they should have.
 
But don't we already have enough of these low density mixed-use developments elsewhere around the city? Did another one need to go up on this plot? I'm not saying Pitt had any interest in the LTV site but they should have.
I have no idea if Pitt was interested in this site when LTV was selling it 15 years ago. The price was about $10 million, which is what Pitt just paid for the Syria Mosque site, so it would have been a bargain if they wanted to buy it then.

As for the proposed development, it will not be low density as I understand it. There will be zero big box retail - it will be office/high tech/light industrial/housing.
 
Anywhere Pitt expands ends up being a long-term, knock-down, bare knuckles political nightmare. The city and URA, historically, don't want Pitt to get a single extra acre.

Pitt got about half of what it wanted in the Robinson Court Complex and that took a decade.


It just seems that no matter what Pitt or UPMC does for the community it is never fully appreciated.

A perfect example is the Pittsburgh Promise that all politicians like to brag about.

However, if it wasn't for UPMC committing $100 million to the Promise, it might never have gotten off the ground.

Yet when Pitt approached the city about closing Bigelow Blvd by the Cathedral, they ran into so much political opposition it never got off the ground.

However, when the mayor wanted to restrict roads and put in "Bike Lanes" all around Oakland.
No Problem. I personally think the Bike Lanes will become a safety problem over time.

If Pitt would have tried to buy the Old Schenley High School they would have gotten criticized by the community for wanting it to close so they could buy it.

The politicans know they can get more traction from the community by using Pitt and UPMC as a punching bag.

HAIL TO PITT!!!!
 
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