Finished in the Top 25 in back-to-back seasons for the first time since 1982-83. Well done!
Final AP Poll is out; Pitt finishes 22nd
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Tennessee also finished behind Alabama (who they beat), and Oregon State finished behind Oregon (who they beat). Kind of disrespectful to go against the on-the-field results in my opinion, but they are obviously smarter than I am!
BTW, with the fall sports season now wrapped, here are the results on the season for all of Pitt's fall varsity sports (this will be a school points record in the NACDA director's cup fall standings):
Team.......................................NCAA Championship Finish...........Final National Poll Ranking
Men's Cross Country...................5th Mid-Atlantic Regional*..............NR (USTFCCCA Coaches)
Women's Cross Country............10th Mid-Atlantic Regional...............NR (USTFCCCA Coaches)
Football.........................................N/A (Sun Bowl Champions)..............22 (AP); 22 (Coaches)
Men's Soccer................................Final Four (3rd-tied).............................8 (United Soccer Coaches)
Women's Soccer..........................Sweet 16 (9th-tied)..............................12 (United Soccer Coaches)
Volleyball......................................Final Four (3rd-tied).............................4 (AVCA Coaches)
*Finishing 3rd-5th in an NCAA Regional in Cross Country, if not receiving an at-large bid to nationals, is scored by the NACDA as tied for 32nd.
Team.......................................NCAA Championship Finish...........Final National Poll Ranking
Men's Cross Country...................5th Mid-Atlantic Regional*..............NR (USTFCCCA Coaches)
Women's Cross Country............10th Mid-Atlantic Regional...............NR (USTFCCCA Coaches)
Football.........................................N/A (Sun Bowl Champions)..............22 (AP); 22 (Coaches)
Men's Soccer................................Final Four (3rd-tied).............................8 (United Soccer Coaches)
Women's Soccer..........................Sweet 16 (9th-tied)..............................12 (United Soccer Coaches)
Volleyball......................................Final Four (3rd-tied).............................4 (AVCA Coaches)
*Finishing 3rd-5th in an NCAA Regional in Cross Country, if not receiving an at-large bid to nationals, is scored by the NACDA as tied for 32nd.
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Back to back top 25 ranked seasons! First time back to back top 25 since 1983, congrats to PN & Pitt!
Pitt just beat UCLA with a bunch of back ups and they still rank them ahead of Pitt SMH. Lol, total B.S.
Pitt just beat UCLA with a bunch of back ups and they still rank them ahead of Pitt SMH. Lol, total B.S.
Its not a slight. Pitt was not even ranked going into that game. UCLA dropped in the poles. It was one game. Makes no sense to put Pitt ahead of them, because they won the last game.
Correct, its the way it "works". Still it places Pitt in a good light going into next season. It is hard to believe its been this long.....
Baldonado, Kancey, Dennis, Hill, Alexandre, Warren, Houy, Slovis, Morgan.
So 8 starters and one very heavily-used rotational piece is what we were missing when we beat UCLA, to finish with the same record as them. And I'm only including Morgan because he basically might as well be a starter; I'm not even including being down our 2nd string running back, etc.
And we finished the season hot. They didn't. So, yeah - we should have been ahead of them.
So 8 starters and one very heavily-used rotational piece is what we were missing when we beat UCLA, to finish with the same record as them. And I'm only including Morgan because he basically might as well be a starter; I'm not even including being down our 2nd string running back, etc.
And we finished the season hot. They didn't. So, yeah - we should have been ahead of them.
Nice recovery after that horrid mid season tumble. The season appeared to be in ashes.
Every team but Georgia will have fans wondering “what if…” and in our case, what if Duz lifted Slovis in the GT, Louisville, UNC games?
I acknowledge that doing this wouldn’t have guaranteed victory in any of those games(well…actually…I am guaranteeing it would have won the GT game). Or that switching QBs might have resulted in internal conflicts that prevented the nice streak that ended the season (however, I get the idea that the players didn’t like Slovis either). Again, just the “what if” that every fan goes through…
Every team but Georgia will have fans wondering “what if…” and in our case, what if Duz lifted Slovis in the GT, Louisville, UNC games?
I acknowledge that doing this wouldn’t have guaranteed victory in any of those games(well…actually…I am guaranteeing it would have won the GT game). Or that switching QBs might have resulted in internal conflicts that prevented the nice streak that ended the season (however, I get the idea that the players didn’t like Slovis either). Again, just the “what if” that every fan goes through…
So head to head competition on the last game of the season doesn’t tell you where the teams are relative to one another at that time?
Nonsense.
Much of it is clueless media bias. Of course UCLA is better, right? Bigger city, more famous, going to the Big Ten. Plus there’s ritually anti Pitt bias locally as well. We likely got the harshest judgement by “our” own local voters. Eh, that’s what we get not giving out bogus “Sports Journalism” degrees.
One side of the argument is much the fault of fans like many on this board that bowls are meaningless. They certainly have become a farce, when one side is able to throw NIL money at all its starters to play while the other side can’t/won’t and thus have to go with its second and third teams.
So incredibly, enough voters refuse reward Pitt, nor to punish a team like UCLA, playing with all its starters for losing to a team with essentially none of its starters, because the game was “meaningless”. It’s like it didn’t happen. Therefore base your vote on the regular season…forget totally what happened before everyone’s eyes at the game the previous week…real plays, real guys getting hit, real injuries, W-L and stats count -- but for polling purposes the game never happened. Sheesh. Just add this to the preposterous nature of this sport.
I’m not picking on you, but it’s funny how people don’t stop and think how polls work. Multiple voters pick their results, those results are aggregated and you have your poll. There’s no slight whatsoever.
UCLA is going to the B1G, this is just early favor by the media schlubs.
We're supposed to be happy Pitt's ranked and shut up.
We're supposed to be happy Pitt's ranked and shut up.
You're right. It is funny how people think.
There is not a single reason why ANY voter should have had UCLA ahead of Pitt.
keep stacking these seasons up. I think we have a real shot at filling the void a program like VT has left open in the ACC due to them falling apart. I see no reason why we can't be what they were. Get several 8-10 win seasons with a season like last yr happening every 3-4 yrs...
uh, ya I'm sure these voters in a meaningless poll take the time to analyze these scenarios on a team by team basis while doing roster matrix computations (obviously making sure they meet the three conditions of a Poisson distribution) and should consult fanbases on what they might be missing.....OR, they do something crazy and say 17 loses to team that came it ranked about 28th so let's drop them four spots. While at the same time saying that team at 28 knocked off a 17 so let's move them up 6 spots. Then they go have a beer.
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no one gives a crap about finishing 22nd or 21st.. you guys are nuts.
No because UCLA was ranked headed into the game and Pitt wasnt. It would be different if Pitt was already ranked. Again, UCLA dropped in the polls. Pitt was not screwed in any way.
9 wins + Final top 25 ranking = successful season. Could have been a little better, but I'm sure Michigan is probably saying the same thing.
When they're so comparable like that its kind of stupid. I mean, they literally JUST played each other, and we beat them without 8 of our 22 starters.
Head to head shouldn't always be the determining factor, but in this case it should have been. It's not like we have other common opponents that Pitt lost to and UCLA beat which adds other variables, etc. We just beat them with almost half our starting lineup out. And the PAC 12 didn't exactly put on a show in the bowl games, despite Nix, DTR, Williams, and Rising all playing; they were probably overrated all year.
I believe this was the Werewolf’s post but somehow it got attributed to me. Not agreeing or disagreeing with your statement, just wanted to clarify.
gotta think this had to be the first time since 1980 that they finished a year with five straight wins..
Sure, it does, both 9-4 and Pitt won head-to-head. College Football is stupid.
wow, just wow.
I think a lot of schools share that sentiment. It was a strong finish. Team never gave up.
I'm as strung out over being behind UCLA as I am Troy.
damn, you are correct...I just skimmed and saw their 7-5 record and assumed they did not..
Tennessee also finished behind Alabama (who they beat), and Oregon State finished behind Oregon (who they beat). Kind of disrespectful to go against the on-the-field results in my opinion, but they are obviously smarter than I am!
Yeah, but we beat UCLA with our second team
At any rate, terrific end to the year, and back to back top 25 seasons is unprecedented this century
that was probably the biggest what if season in modern era. What if Antonio Bryant doesn't get hurt returning punt in opener and misses next game in upset loss to USF? What if Walt didn't try to change up the offense? Would not have beat Miami that year regardless but probably could have finished a strong second in Big East.
And yet, there are some fans that want her kicked out of town… She is a wise and patient AD. More good things to come as long as she is there.
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Notice many of the trolls have disappeared, or gone into hiding.
Having UCLA directly in front of Pitt makes it obvious. Pitt winning and records being equal, just flip them. There's nothing else so obvious beyond head to head that UCLA deserves such a slight edge.
Here's the analysis: Identical records. End of Year. Bowl championship trophy on the line. Neutral Field. Settled on the field.
Bingo. “At that time…” which is basically when the polls are wrapped up. Head scratcher for sure.
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